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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne thing that all Republicans need to hear:
Donald Trump is not a Republican. He is not a Democrat. He is not even an honorable American.
He is a con man. He is a carnival barker. He is for whatever advances the interests of Donald Trump. He is not for advancing the interests of America.
Donald Trump has donated to Democrats many times in the past. He donated to Hillary Clinton.
"Yeah, but he is against abortion and gives us the judges that we want".
"He has given us jobs and a good economy", some might say.
He also gave a two-trillion dollar tax cut to the wealthy.
Exactly.
But all good things come to an end and you will still have Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump is Putin's puppet.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)trump is
calimary
(84,436 posts)Except when applied the The Asset, youd have to adjust it slightly from horse to horses ass.
PatrickforO
(15,116 posts)The ideal is a dumb president who will sign the legislation that comes from a Republican Congress.
NoMoreRepugs
(10,577 posts)and policies. Democrat in the White Hose - deficits and Federal Debt BAD. Rethug in the WH - who cares? GWB in WH - actual concerned comments from Rethugs about climate change. Obama in WH - climate change a HOAX.
Rethug in WH Executive Orders okay - Democrats in WH - power grab, unconstitutional. And on and on.
Point is the Republican populace believe what Fox and Reichwing radio tell them to believe.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)They have no other principles but a commitment to lying.
keithbvadu2
(40,235 posts)Trump is a republican. A modern day republican.
The old time republicans of honor, integrity, and ethics are long gone.
kentuck
(112,874 posts)And he does a good job at it. But he is for Donald Trump and no political Party.
keithbvadu2
(40,235 posts)kentuck
(112,874 posts).. when they failed to defend themselves from his attacks.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)If it made him richer to do the right thing hed be doing it.
He rode in on the four horses of the apocalypse and we need to send him packing.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)kentuck
(112,874 posts)...that they have never actually believed in democracy. They have pretended for their people. They don't really care about the people.
paleotn
(19,301 posts)by the money side of the party, in an unholy agreement with conservative southern Dems, ending Reconstruction. Though against slavery, much of the Civil War Republican party were by no means abolitionist. Lincoln bridged these diverse parts of the Republican party and his thoughts on abolition evolved over time.
Major Nikon
(36,911 posts)The reason he's successful is the same reason other demagogues are successful. It's far easier to appeal to emotion rather than reason and most people can't recognize when someone is manipulating them through their emotions.
kentuck
(112,874 posts)Our emotions can put up a curtain between reason and truth and make it very difficult to see what is actually happening.
Major Nikon
(36,911 posts)The difference is the demagogue appeals to negative base emotions. Hate and fear are far more powerful motivators and those who use them to motivate people are far more nefarious. That's why it's more important to call out that behavior for what it is.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)BigOleDummy
(2,274 posts)
that when people want to paint someone as vile, as a cheat, as someone beneath contempt that they would stop using the term "carnival barker" as a pejorative. I spent 40+ years in the Outdoor Amusement Business i.e. Carnivals. Not only is that term NOT used in the business, and hasn't been since long before I started working in it, it's a stereotype that paints us all as jerks. I've met and been associated with some of the finest most caring hard working people its been my pleasure to be friends and co-workers with while working in this fun and yes enlightening line of work. 99.8% of us (yes I still consider myself "with it", once a Carny ALWAYS a Carny) are as honest as the vast majority of people with more "traditional" lines of work. Todays carnival business has no tolerance for the behavior ascribed by that term. You would be hard pressed to find any shadiness in the modern carnival business. We have a few bad apples, just like any OTHER careers. Are ALL Police indiscriminate killers? Are ALL union workers lazy and just place fillers drawing a paycheck?
Here at D.U. and in our
.. circle ... we rightly decry stereotypes and prejudice of all kinds except this. Why? We endure this day in and day out from some of our patrons and yes after awhile it just kind of rolls off your back a bit. From THEM. That's does not mean its not hurtful all the same. I do not/did not except the same here.
Yes, I agree with all the points made but can there NO other way to describe this orange piece of shit that pollutes our White House?
Ferrets are Cool
(21,961 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Most people love carnivals, else they wouldnt exist anymore. I think most people dont know that such a role even exists anymore.
It seems Trump can only be described in stereotypical terms because he is so outrageous that any attempt at describing him legitimately takes up too much time and volumes of words. Its easier to use stereotypes.
I appreciate your post and your point.
Martin Eden
(13,516 posts)Decades of dishonesty and collusion with rightwing media have created a "conservative" ideology and propaganda narrative that was tailor made for a con man like Trump to take advantage of.
He was simply better at pushing the buttons of hate, fear, racism, and ignorace -- because he is even more devoid of morals and ethics than the Republicans who crafted and repeated the propaganda which has brainwashed nearly half the American electorate.
Make no mistake:
Donald Trump is the embodiment of today's Republican Party.
Some of them might despise and fear the monster they created, but create it they did.
mountain grammy
(27,315 posts)because "owning the libs" is the new republican platform.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,961 posts)The sounds of the teacher in the Peanuts show.
kentuck
(112,874 posts)But if we can just reach one person, we feel it is worthwhile.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The jobs suck and the economy is not what 'they' would have you believe. PLUS, the economic growth, what there is of it, started under the black guy. Imagine that !!!
Tell 'em that.
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,030 posts)For now, they are almost all tRump-Republicons.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Its just a figure of speech because Im an agnostic atheist.
They_Live
(3,302 posts)the deficit. The deficit should be brought up whenever someone talks about how great the economy is now.
Nitram
(24,625 posts)It is falling on deaf ears.
Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)That's what they need to hear.
EleanorR
(2,434 posts)They knew what he was, they voted for him, and they continue to prop up his approval numbers. He is the face of the republican party.
Skittles
(159,647 posts)it's so OBVIOUS
yet others, they act like he is some kind of SAVIOR