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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJim Comey's scorching op Ed in the NYT
Hes been waiting a long time to say this.
People have been asking me hard questions. What happened to the leaders in the Trump administration, especially the attorney general, Bill Barr, who I have said was due the benefit of the doubt?
How could Mr. Barr, a bright and accomplished lawyer, start channeling the president in using words like no collusion and F.B.I. spying? And downplaying acts of obstruction of justice as products of the presidents being frustrated and angry, something he would never say to justify the thousands of crimes prosecuted every day that are the product of frustration and anger?
How could he write and say things about the report by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, that were apparently so misleading that they prompted written protest from the special counsel himself?
How could Mr. Barr go before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday and downplay President Trumps attempt to fire Mr. Mueller before he completed his work?
And how could Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, after the release of Mr. Muellers report that detailed Mr. Trumps determined efforts to obstruct justice, give a speech quoting the president on the importance of the rule of law? Or on resigning, thank a president who relentlessly attacked both him and the Department of Justice he led for the courtesy and humor you often display in our personal conversations?
What happened to these people?
I dont know for sure. People are complicated, so the answer is most likely complicated. But I have some idea from four months of working close to Mr. Trump and many more months of watching him shape others.
Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man.
But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think thats at least part of what weve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength cant resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattiss to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
comradebillyboy
(10,144 posts)would be informative.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,144 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)I think I can tell what are your comments but I'm not sure.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think thats at least part of what weve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength cant resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattiss to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.
It starts with your sitting silent while he lies, both in public and private, making you complicit by your silence. In meetings with him, his assertions about what everyone thinks and what is obviously true wash over you, unchallenged, as they did at our private dinner on Jan. 27, 2017, because hes the president and he rarely stops talking. As a result, Mr. Trump pulls all of those present into a silent circle of assent.
Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He runs roughshod over people before they even know it.
Its very good insight from Comey. But his speech regarding Hillary was before Trump allegedly won the vote. He needs to be just as analytical and insightful about why he did that.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)Except by those with nothing to lose that he can take.
LibFarmer
(772 posts)after throwing the election to Trump.
However, I'll take anyone who is gunning at Trump at this point.
DENVERPOPS
(8,812 posts)Comey did as much, SINGLE HANDEDLY, to throw this election to Republicans and especially Trump, as any other single thing, in my opinion and he knew it.
For him to suddenly find religion and to speak up is a total farce.......
Again, I think Anything we can try to do at this stage is far to little, and far too late......
The Republican party has been playing three dimensional chess for decades, and the dems have been playing checkers......
Comey was a big part of why Hillary lost.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)I've always seen this on Trump but am amazed that everyone doesn't see it as it is so obvious. An opinionated fraud and conman. He also uses emotional blackmail as in agree or suffer his rage and vindictiveness. How much longer must we tolerate this PINO?
Hekate
(90,648 posts)struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)Accomplished people lacking inner strength cant resist the compromises necessary to survive this president.
By James Comey
May 1, 2019
... How could Mr. Barr, a bright and accomplished lawyer, start channeling the president in using words like no collusion and F.B.I. spying? And downplaying acts of obstruction of justice as products of the presidents being frustrated and angry, something he would never say to justify the thousands of crimes prosecuted every day that are the product of frustration and anger?
How could he write and say things about the report by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, that were apparently so misleading that they prompted written protest from the special counsel himself? ...
Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man.
But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think thats at least part of what weve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength cant resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from ... because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
nolabear
(41,959 posts)struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)WhiskeyWulf
(569 posts)They're scumbags protecting a fellow scumbag.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)*Known* scumbags. We knew who Bill Barr was before he became AG !
MarcA
(2,195 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)highplainsdem
(48,971 posts)But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think thats at least part of what weve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength cant resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattiss to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.
-snipping a brilliant and damning but long description of the way Trump subverts and compromises those around him-
Of course, to stay, you must be seen as on his team, so you make further compromises. You use his language, praise his leadership, tout his commitment to values.
And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)The lesser question is, where can i get Lindsay Graham saying "Trump is a fucking idiot" as a ring tone?
nolabear
(41,959 posts)was perfect.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)I want that ringtone too!
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)dem4decades
(11,282 posts)Pluvious
(4,310 posts)Paladin
(28,254 posts)Comey provides the complete and utter verbal evisceration of trump and his administration toadies that is so long overdue. These words are going to be turning up in history books for decades to come.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But even more, I hope those words are spread all over the US of A right now!!!!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So nice to hear him scold others for their shortcomings (and they are legion), but once again he completely misses anything he might have done. He blames their proximity to Trump for the failures of Barr, and Rosenstein and Mattis, but Comey popped out of his burrow just before the 2016 election to impugn Hillary Clinton one last time and he doesn't even have the bad excuse of being in thrall to Trump for that little episode.
Those fingers you're pointing look awfully dirty, Mr. Comey. Unsurprisingly, it's the New York Times letting him use their valuable media real estate to toss his cherry bombs.
Fuck Comey.
LisaM
(27,803 posts)I can't even hear his name without my blood pressure rising.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)...AND - unless he has changed his tune, he says...he would not do anything differently if he had the chance at a do-over before the "election."
So, FU, Mr. Comey.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Hes nobodys hero.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Is that if he'd withheld the information about investigating the Weiner laptop from Congress, after having specifically pledged to Congress to keep them informed if any potentially new evidence in the Email Probe came to light, and especially if it had turned out that there WAS something incriminating on the laptop ... it would've caused an absolute political shitstorm.
Fact it, many people (esp. Congressional Repubs) would've accused him of trying to sway the election in the other direction, and he'd likely have been found to have been in Contempt of Congress for not fulfilling his obligation.
Basically the guy was forced into a no-win situation by the Hillary Haters at the NY FBI field office, Guiliani's cronies, who he knew would leverage the whole thing for even MORE benefit to Trump ... had he failed to report to Congress as he was obliged to.
He had no reason to believe in advance that the media would blow this story up the way they did, to just plaster the airwaves with hand-wringing and speculation that this meant that ZOMG TEH HILLARY EMAIL INVESTIGATION IS NOT OVER!!?!1!!.
I blame FBI NY first, then the fucking media, and then the lying GOP Congress that ran to them in the first place, falsely hyping what the letter suggested ... all more than Comey, and I always will.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The poor guy! How could Comey or anyone know that his innocent little letter would be seized upon by people of ill will? That would require a memory going back hours or even days, and nobody can possibly do that!
Two words for that: Puh. Leeze.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)he was very much a part of what gave us Trump
diverdownjt
(702 posts)Benedict fucking Arnold
JHB
(37,158 posts)Saying "Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites" gives Trump too much credit.
After all, as he said just one paragraph before, Trump's just "revealing the character of those around" him.
The only thing Trump's doing to their souls is stripping the carefully-cultivated varnish of respectability off "respectable Republicans". The rot was there from the start.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Everyone has a veneer of respectability and decency. The true tests in life will eventually show whats behind that veneer. Everyone in this Administration and Congress is being exposed.
Wawannabe
(5,655 posts)I doubt any will do as much time as Martha Stewart did for any of their criminal acts - while representing the Constitution.
I have no faith - too many actors in this grand old party scheme.
diva77
(7,640 posts)Dump's rapid-fire soliloquies. Let's hear about it.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)underpants
(182,778 posts)In 2006 the Republicans were at best in shambles. The war had not only been horribly miss run but it was clearly a lie. Katrina exposes them as careless and uncaring. They had fallen apart. THEN all their rhetoric and policies lead to the biggest financial and economic collapse in history.
They survived because the media needed them. No one will watch a one horse race. Slowly they climbed back. First with a split in their party orchestrated to divert attention from recent disastrous history. The lines were blurred as to who did what before the collapse.
Right now they know this is their last chance to avoid obliteration. If Trump goes down, if hes charged or kicked out of office they will be in the wilderness for years. And they know it.
Answer: this is survival mode and the preservation of the two party system as weve known it. And they know it.
Turbineguy
(37,320 posts)In my interaction with malignant narcissists that's been my observation. They suck life out of those around them to feed their needs.
Of course..... you don't have to put up with it. This is where your family and friends can be of help, reminding you that you are not born to be Dracula's next meal.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"you don't have to put up with it"
Resist in any way you can is my motto for sanity in these times that try my strength to do so.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)This is an important one
I think well remember Trump eats your soul
He repeats it in the last line too, in the past tense He has eaten your soul
renate
(13,776 posts)It sounds kind of Harry Potter-y and it's such a succinct description of what Trump does. I wonder how he does it; he's so unlikeable but somehow he gets people to do what he wants. I can't wait until these people are free to write tell-all books (if they're not in prison).
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)TygrBright
(20,758 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Could you at least give a summary of the plot and why you are referencing it? Thanks.
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)
The Screwtape Letters comprises 31 letters written by a senior demon named Screwtape to his nephew, Wormwood (named after a star in Revelation), a younger and less experienced demon, charged with guiding a man (called "the patient" toward "Our Father Below" (Devil / Satan) from "the Enemy" (Jesus).
After the second letter, the Patient converts to Christianity, and Wormwood is chastised for allowing this. A striking contrast is formed between Wormwood and Screwtape during the rest of the book, wherein Wormwood is depicted through Screwtape's letters as anxious to tempt his patient into extravagantly wicked and deplorable sins, often recklessly, while Screwtape takes a more subtle stance, as in Letter XII wherein he remarks: "... the safest road to hell is the gradual one the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters
It may not be your cup of tea, but it is very sly and funny.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It sounds like a condemning analogy to human weakness.
My interest is piqued.
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)I should reread it myself.
TygrBright
(20,758 posts)PRIMO snark.
No brief for Comey, who I hope has some sleepless moments about his role in fucking up the 2016 election, and an occasional gastric twinge over his own pious hypocrisy.
But he's not a dummy, and I do believe he doesn't want the nation to go down in a tarpit of sleazy, corrupt expediency.
And this op-ed is a real scorcher and a pleasure to read.
interestedly,
Bright
Duppers
(28,120 posts)I will not forgive your coffin nail in Hillary's chances of election.
Nuggets
(525 posts)Straight arrows
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)These are words that need to be repeated until toady Republicans begin to feel a modicum of shame. Until an inflection point is met, the GOP will continue with its ranting, lying and rationalizations about Trump, his hideous acts and the alt-right propaganda spew.
Never forget, never forgive what's been done here. Nearly all Republicans turned in their credentials as 'the loyal opposition.' Their behavior is treasonous and unAmerican. May they all rot in Hell!
Nuggets
(525 posts)been whittled down to a party of extremely narcissistic sociopaths, shame is not something they will feel...ever
The only way through this is to oust them in elections. Begin to recognize others like them and keep them out of positions of authority.
The cable news networks will continue to help them as the executives are cut from the same cloth a.k.a. the powers that be.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)the wiretapping of everyone.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Not that I believe a word the NRA says. They may no longer be a funds-transfer mechanism between the russkis and the repuglicons but they are still there and evil.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)It is my belief that each party when they were in office gathered all the phone and email data on the other side. Why, because they could. Now all the older party members are afraid to say or do anything, only the young ones can, no interest on them yet.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Yes - I see your point. Thanks!
WA-03 Democrat
(3,046 posts)Is a lying Repuke
Pasties for thoughts will
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)But yeah, no Comey memo, no President Trump
pangaia
(24,324 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)He didnt have to run his yap in the months - AND in the DAYS - before the 2016 election, which I still feel strongly contributed to a critical mass of voters in three targeted states to have second thoughts about HRC. Especially since he had to come back on the record about the second time, in late Octiber, to concede that the second cache of Hillarys emails were nothing new. Of course it was too late by then. His earlier discovery that he portrayed as suspicious had already seeped in and taken root.
Comey, your DAMNED big mouth helped doom our democracy, you fucking jerk! NOTHING - repeat - NOTHING YOU CAN SAY OR DO NOW - can cleanse your conscience OR rehabilitate your own now-infamous place in history, for helping this monster steal our election.
Your timing was perfect. And if not deeply suspect, then pathetically reckless AND shamefully naive.
Danascot
(4,690 posts)From an article in the Business Insider that appeared after the Comey letter and before the election.
The New Yorker and Washington Post reported Attorney General Loretta Lynch had expressed to FBI Director James Comey her view that the law enforcement agency should follow the longstanding practice of not commenting on ongoing investigations especially with less than two weeks to go until Election Day.
Speaking to The New Yorker, current and former federal legal officials characterized the action as a striking break with DOJ policies one that officials feel could potentially affect the outcome of the presidential and congressional elections in less than two weeks.
"You don't do this," one former senior DOJ official exclaimed to The New Yorker. "It's aberrational. It violates decades of practice ... it impugns the integrity and reputation of the candidate, even though there's no finding by a court, or in this instance even an indictment."
https://www.businessinsider.com/james-comey-fbi-loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-emails-2016-10
calimary
(81,220 posts)in the MIRROR.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)I get the feeling he could have gone on a lot longer, edit to add Comey has his own moral
To Ineptitude deal With
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)As Colin Powell, too little too late. Although I appreciate him penning this opposed to remaining silent.
He was desperate to not be looked down on by his own party, and projecting the "inevitable" Hillary Clinton win, he did not want to be accused of NOT turning over every possible pebble of damaging information on the Democratic candidate, after the fact. While at the same time withholding information on the extent of Russia's interference and that they were working to help the Republican candidate.
But understanding that its difficult to find a completely non-hypocritical Republican, he gets my respect for this.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Yup, I've thought of that too. People want to be as close to power as they can get so they do everything they can to get there. And they don't notice when they've gone too far. No one will show you ahead of time. You have to know enough to see it when it is happening. It's the old "emperor has no clothes" moment. You have to know what is right so that you know that it is wrong. Too many people in power got there by telling their bosses that they were right, even if they didn't know.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)He is working hard to redeem his integrity and his conscience.
The memory of what he did to Clinton is painful, but we need all the support we can muster now to remove this person from the WH before he inflicts any further damage, both seen and unseen, to our country.
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)I don't give a shit what he has to say.
Hamlette
(15,411 posts)Comey makes it sound like it is a condition that takes place over time. by tiny bites. Did we ever see Barr when he was not doing all those thing Comey implies come after a time?
He was a flunky from day one....and before.
delisen
(6,042 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The time for you to tell America about Trump was before November 2016. But you clammed up when it came to Trump. Instead, you kept beating the dead horse of Hillary's emails.
You should be worried about your own soul, Comey.
Firestorm49
(4,032 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Now, what about you knee-capping Hillary and getting Trump elected? Do you have a comment on that?
orangecrush
(19,543 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)Ouch
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)miscalculations and self introspection.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)I must have agreed that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history because I didnt challenge that. Everyone must agree that he has been treated very unfairly. The web building never stops.
From the private circle of assent, it moves to public displays of personal fealty at places like cabinet meetings. While the entire world is watching, you do what everyone else around the table does you talk about how amazing the leader is and what an honor it is to be associated with him.
Sure, you notice that Mr. Mattis never actually praises the president, always speaking instead of the honor of representing the men and women of our military. But hes a special case, right? Former Marine general and all. No way the rest of us could get away with that. So you praise, while the world watches, and the web gets tighter.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)You feel this happening. It bothers you, at least to some extent. But his outrageous conduct convinces you that you simply must stay, to preserve and protect the people and institutions and values you hold dear. Along with Republican members of Congress, you tell yourself you are too important for this nation to lose, especially now.
You cant say this out loud maybe not even to your family but in a time of emergency, with the nation led by a deeply unethical person, this will be your contribution, your personal sacrifice for America. You are smarter than Donald Trump, and you are playing a long game for your country, so you can pull it off where lesser leaders have failed and gotten fired by tweet.
Of course, to stay, you must be seen as on his team, so you make further compromises. You use his language, praise his leadership, tout his commitment to values.
And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)To accept that the buffoon is eating your soul, knowing he is doing it, and not because he is smart, he is just being him, and for you to allow it? Bull! When you have strong principles you get up and leave, then when the media asks you why you left the room you tell them that you refuse to work for a corrupt imbecile, and that your recommendation to all is to get him out of office for the good of the country.
He is not eating your soul, you are eating your soul by allowing yourself to have no balls, to leave your principles behind, to fail to understand that you are complicit to the demise of your country, of the things you love, that you are being a traitor to your family and your country.
Bullshit! I would have walked away and exposed the buffoon, otherwise why are you here for? By getting up and exposing the bastard it may have encouraged everyone else to find their courage.
A very sad essay by Comey.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)JohnZSmith
(33 posts)He only exploits weakness and corruption where it already existed, though sometimes hidden.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)spanone
(135,827 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,678 posts)That's a confession.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)highplainsdem
(48,971 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,279 posts)Frum said that Trump has a genius to find even the tiniest flaw in a person's morals/ethics and work it until it cracks open and then owns that person.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,279 posts)despite still believing all that Republican economic mumbo jumbo.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Fuck him.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...how can YOU have decided to interfere in a national ejection for the benefit if Donald Trump eleven days before voting? Hmmm?
RESIST!
rainy
(6,091 posts)Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.
And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.
debsy
(530 posts)...of administration officials. Let us not forget: it was his idea to pardon all the convicted criminals after the Iran-Contra mess.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)niyad
(113,275 posts)forget this.
niyad
(113,275 posts)for him at such levels have none to begin with.
elleng
(130,865 posts)to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattiss to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.'
hotrod0808
(323 posts)Barr showed who he was during his first period in this position. He carried water for GOP criminals for decades. If Comey thinks that Barr is a respectable man, then that says a lot about Comey's actions over the last three or four years. He can eat shit.