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Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:28 PM

Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus?

Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus? Republican lawyers may be ready to jump off sinking ship. In stonewalling Congress and accusing McGahn of lying, Trump may have doomed himself with legal conservatives.


We may be heading into a real live constitutional crisis, folks. A special counsel has carefully documented a series of events showing that the president committed high crimes, using sworn testimony of people directly involved. Since the Justice Department has decided it cannot indict a sitting president, the only path to remove a criminal president resides with the Congress. Now that same president is refusing to acknowledge its constitutional power by failing to provide documents or to allow witnesses to testify, even under subpoena. This showdown is obviously heading to the courts, although the president seems to be somewhat confused about how that works.

It's tempting to make fun of Trump's twisted logic and addled understanding of the basic process of government, but this is a serious matter. He's not just venting before the world on his puerile Twitter feed. The administration is refusing to cooperate with the Congress at all, and that is highly unusual even for presidents under siege.

Normally there is some form of accommodation in these cases, even if the White House wants to claim executive privilege. This administration has decided to totally stonewall everything, from tax returns to testimony about security clearances. Trump and his minions are claiming this privilege after they've already waived it even as the president is blabbing about the matters under subpoena on TV and Twitter.

Trump may not know much about how the government works, but he does understand TV ratings. So I would guess that the main reason for this stonewall is to keep the Democrats from staging dramatic public hearings to illustrate for the American people what Robert Mueller found in his investigation. He apparently understands that he can't keep Mueller from testifying, but Mueller doesn't seem to be the one Trump is worried about. He almost certainly doesn't want to see former staffers like Hope Hicks or Rob Porter on screen testifying about his rampant corruption. But the one who scares him the most is former White House counsel Don McGahn.


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Reply Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus? (Original post)
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 OP
wryter2000 Apr 2019 #1
H2O Man Apr 2019 #3
Fullduplexxx Apr 2019 #19
H2O Man Apr 2019 #2
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #8
H2O Man Apr 2019 #9
Me. Apr 2019 #13
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #22
Me. Apr 2019 #24
INdemo Apr 2019 #4
OnDoutside Apr 2019 #14
kentuck Apr 2019 #5
ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #6
marylandblue Apr 2019 #7
ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #16
marylandblue Apr 2019 #17
ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #20
Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #10
Mme. Defarge Apr 2019 #11
kentuck Apr 2019 #12
marylandblue Apr 2019 #18
shanny Apr 2019 #21
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #23
mopinko Apr 2019 #15
hedda_foil Apr 2019 #25

Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:31 PM

1. I wonder

If McGhan really wants to testify, can Trump stop him? He can't have him arrested.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:32 PM

3. No.

He can't stop McGahn from testifying.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:22 PM

19. Yea sure you can testify i cant stop you btw that's a lovely family you got..a lovely family indeed

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:31 PM

2. Recommended.

You seem somehow wiser today.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:54 PM

8. Older, anyway

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:55 PM

9. I never thought

of it that way! You are indeed wiser.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 02:40 PM

13. I Take Excaption To That

When wasn't she wise...

KR

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Response to Me. (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:53 PM

22. You're too kind

At least I have been wise enough for years not to fall for any republican and follow it up with the foolish choice of actually voting for that person.

Mahalo Me.!

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 04:16 PM

24. Exception

Mahalo to you Lion

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:36 PM

4. No Don McGahn..is a fucking Repuplican. He will end up

 

covering for Hitler II with tears in his eyes the same way Rod Rosenstein did.

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Response to INdemo (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 02:44 PM

14. Absolutely correct, with the proviso that he'll save his own ass first.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:39 PM

5. I think Mueller is a more important player..

...in changing the poll numbers.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:42 PM

6. Trump is on tape yesterday saying Don McGahn LIED to Robert Mueller.....

Congress needs to haul McGahn in front of them and soon. Trump is the one LYING here to cover his own orange wrinkly ass.

Robert Mueller too about this particular question. Trump will attack him, but Mueller will win this arguement.

Don McGahn,, being a lawyer himself, knows such an act would result in him being disbarred. Why would he risk that?

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:52 PM

7. Also, will make it hard to stop McGahn from testifying based on executive privilege.

If someone is lying, he isn't giving away any privileged information.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:10 PM

16. Executive Privilege was waived for McGahn to talk with Mueller......

So Trump cannot stop McGahn .he can not answer questions that do not pertain to what he told Mueller after 30 hours. McGahn would know that.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:19 PM

17. Yeah, that's another argument.

All I'm saying is that you can't privilege a conversation you say never happened.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:27 PM

20. Got it....

Took me a second to clear my head. Thanks.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:56 PM

10. I hope McGahn has some security.

Just sayin'.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 02:10 PM

11. God willing

and the creek donít rise.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 02:39 PM

12. I think McGahn will attempt to get around testifying before the Congress...

...or he will tell the least that is possible?

He is a strong right-winger.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:22 PM

18. He seems to have some integrity and may also fear a Trump loss in 2020.

When he will not be protected from prosecution or disbarment.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:45 PM

21. hard to say if his resistance to illegal orders

 

was principled or CYA...wait: he's a Republican so I'm sure it was the latter. However, he has a long career in front of him and I think donny boy does not so CYA will still apply.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:54 PM

23. Well I hope he is the first of many

to stand up to the orange buffoon and tell the truth.

A girl can HOPE.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:04 PM

15. i wonder how many of these lawyers are worried about their licenses.

 

by now they hopefully know they are seriously tarnished by their association w that maggot. d.c. might get ugly for these guys, esp if we really sweep the thugs out.
they might want that license to start over in a new town.

i know i sure wouldnt risk mine. (i dont have one. just sayin.)

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Response to mopinko (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 04:21 PM

25. That's what I was thinking too, Mo. The attorneys would risk losing their ability to make a living.

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