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FM123

(10,053 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:51 AM Apr 2019

Pelosi Pours Cold Water On Impeachment: 'We Can Investigate' Without 'Drafting Articles'

(Talking Points Memo)

In a call with members of her caucus on Monday evening, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encouraged her colleagues to pump the breaks on talk of impeachment, Politico reported.

“We can investigate Trump without drafting articles,” she said, according to sources on the call who spoke to Politico. “We aren’t going to go faster, we are going to go as fast as the facts take us.”

In a letter to House Democrats on Monday, she also reminded her colleagues that the “facts regarding holding the President accountable can be gained outside of impeachment hearings,” according to Politico.

As some within the caucus reignite talks of impeachment, Pelosi and other Democratic leaders like House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) have extinguished any knee-jerk impeachment talks, likely because of the political consequences of drafting articles.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-pours-cold-water-impeachment-we-can-investigate-without-drafting-articles

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Pelosi Pours Cold Water On Impeachment: 'We Can Investigate' Without 'Drafting Articles' (Original Post) FM123 Apr 2019 OP
I have read elsewhere abqtommy Apr 2019 #1
Yes, and restricts Red Don's rights of pardon to some degree uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
Maybe she's thinking of timing that she can drag it out into the election cycle. Otherwise the case uponit7771 Apr 2019 #3
That makes the most sense. PTWB Apr 2019 #4
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2019 #8
Yes, that is what is probably going on here. honest.abe Apr 2019 #19
They can and they will investigate. That is their job. Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #5
There's no ... "if" ... that's some bullshit at this point. What more do they need!? I agree with uponit7771 Apr 2019 #9
Agree. But they need to do their own investigations Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #12
True, I would be on board with that ... I pray she's explains this and the path forward and not with uponit7771 Apr 2019 #13
She did not "pour cold water" on it. Some in the media aren't reporting this correctly. manor321 Apr 2019 #6
Yeah they did if they're looking for more information to impeach Red Don. They already have enough uponit7771 Apr 2019 #10
She is taking the correct path, investigate, investigate, investigate and end of day hold 6 months beachbum bob Apr 2019 #7
Hopefully, that sounds smart but if at the end of the day they have to decided on impeachment then t uponit7771 Apr 2019 #11
no, its about a tactic and the long game. Let Pelosi do it her way, if the EVIDENCE is overwhelming beachbum bob Apr 2019 #14
Between tRump's henchmen refusing to honor subpoenas and Pelosi's refusal to impeach, we are DontBooVote Apr 2019 #15
she forgot to add "...for now." Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #16
Thank you Nancy. You and Don have a nice day. Hotler Apr 2019 #17
I remember people in 2007 saying the same thing Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #18

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. I have read elsewhere
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:53 AM
Apr 2019

that filing impeachment opens up the granting of requests for records of grand jury testimony. Why restrict our access to critical information?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. Maybe she's thinking of timing that she can drag it out into the election cycle. Otherwise the case
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:56 AM
Apr 2019

... against impeachment doesn't make a lot of sense factually

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
4. That makes the most sense.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:58 AM
Apr 2019

Anything that happens between now and a month before Election Day probably isn’t going to matter. That’s just the way our shitty attention span country is now. A huge scandal immediately before the election might help a little.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
19. Yes, that is what is probably going on here.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:38 AM
Apr 2019

I cannot imagine Nancy would eliminate the possibility of impeachment. I suspect she and others are strategizing the best timing to pull the trigger. That's fine with me if that is the case.

Freethinker65

(10,010 posts)
5. They can and they will investigate. That is their job.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:58 AM
Apr 2019

If their investigations lead to confirm impeachment is warranted, they must proceed with impeachment.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. There's no ... "if" ... that's some bullshit at this point. What more do they need!? I agree with
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:07 AM
Apr 2019

... Mathews; " 6 months from now things aren't going to get better from what came out of Mueller report ..."

Freethinker65

(10,010 posts)
12. Agree. But they need to do their own investigations
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:10 AM
Apr 2019

And if the investigations are public, so much the better.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
13. True, I would be on board with that ... I pray she's explains this and the path forward and not with
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:11 AM
Apr 2019

... some "if" ... that would so deflating

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
10. Yeah they did if they're looking for more information to impeach Red Don. They already have enough
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019

... right now but if the hearings are a "we need more to impeach" Red Don then this is just distraction from impeachment

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. She is taking the correct path, investigate, investigate, investigate and end of day hold 6 months
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:05 AM
Apr 2019

of hearings for drafting articles of impeachment.

Pelosi does have some political knowledge

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. Hopefully, that sounds smart but if at the end of the day they have to decided on impeachment then t
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:10 AM
Apr 2019

.... that's fucked up.

Red Don can be impeached based on the Mueller report alone ... piling on is what the hearings should be not a "we need more" venture.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. no, its about a tactic and the long game. Let Pelosi do it her way, if the EVIDENCE is overwhelming
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:13 AM
Apr 2019

on multiple fronts, what a better way to force McConnel and the GOP to defend/deflect an impeachment trial.

The actual articles of impeachment is the EASIEST thing that Pelosi can do BUT not the smartest AT THIS TIME. This is our tact to realize a landslide win Nov 2020

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
15. Between tRump's henchmen refusing to honor subpoenas and Pelosi's refusal to impeach, we are
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:44 AM
Apr 2019

FUCKED!

WTF is going on? I'd put money right now that tRump and his henchmen will get away with everything because there is no check on them and they get more emboldened every day.

We are truly fucked. It's the end of the rule of law and our democracy and there's no one to whom to turn for justice and to save us from the fate of the Russian people.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
18. I remember people in 2007 saying the same thing
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:33 AM
Apr 2019

when Pelosi took impeachment off the table. Then we had big victories in 2008.

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