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Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:40 PM

 

To hell with the backlash mantra! If we are going to go down (and I don't think we will) we need

to go down fighting! We fight with legislation. We fight with impeachment proceedings. We fight with plain simple truth.
We cannot fight being fearful. We cannot win being weak. We cannot be victorious being vacuous. We cannot lead being led.

IMPEACH THE BASTARD!!

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Reply To hell with the backlash mantra! If we are going to go down (and I don't think we will) we need (Original post)
sarabelle Apr 2019 OP
RockRaven Apr 2019 #1
better Apr 2019 #2
sharedvalues Apr 2019 #3
barbtries Apr 2019 #4
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #5
pdsimdars Apr 2019 #6
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #10
WA-03 Democrat Apr 2019 #15
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17
WA-03 Democrat Apr 2019 #19
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
uponit7771 Apr 2019 #25
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #27
uponit7771 Apr 2019 #29
uponit7771 Apr 2019 #24
Duppers Apr 2019 #7
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8
sarabelle Apr 2019 #14
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
Roy Rolling Apr 2019 #9
WA-03 Democrat Apr 2019 #11
sarabelle Apr 2019 #13
ananda Apr 2019 #12
qdouble Apr 2019 #16
Texin Apr 2019 #21
FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #22
TNNurse Apr 2019 #23
Hotler Apr 2019 #26
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #28

Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:46 PM

1. Yep. If the Republic is going to be destroyed by these crooks and their moronic sheep, it should NOT

go out with a whimper.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:49 PM

2. Well said.

And as I've been screaming from the rooftops lately, we need to hammer home, especially among our own base, that impeachment proceedings culminate with a vote on whether or not to impeach, only upon an affirmative decision regarding which does the Senate get to start to play their tricks. We can hold impeachment proceedings and use them to find and disclose the truth without letting the Senate Republicans ride in to exonerate Trump before the election.

Whether or not impeachment proceedings progress to the point of even a vote on articles of impeachment, let alone a Senate trial over them, before the election, the very fact of the investigations being part of official impeachment proceedings gives us vastly more power to get at the truth, and much more attention on what we uncover than we can achieve otherwise.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:08 PM

3. +1

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:23 PM

4. absolutely.

it has to happen.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:22 PM

5. Every word!

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:24 PM

6. Backlash? O'Donnell pointed out after impeaching Clinton, the GOP won House, Senate and President

 

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:31 PM

10. In 98 they lost five seats and Gingrich was forced to resign.

Times are different nown anyway.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 05:31 PM

15. Gingrich was forced to Resign due

To ethics violations. An affair if I remember correctly. Dennis Hassert came in for another 4 speakerships. How did this hurt the repukes??

I feel bad for the kids with Denny and all but politically the notion that Repukz Congress was hurt but was not lost. 6 seats in the house to be exact. Dennis Hassert was speaker until Pelosi in 2006.

Why do we believe it will hurt us when it was the wrong thing to do (a BJ) and they held on when now itís the only thing to do to save the republic because our President is owned by Putin, Saudi and China?

We have been sold.

We either break free or get on our knees.

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Response to WA-03 Democrat (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:51 PM

17. Republicans don't care about ethicsi; they expected to win and lost five seats,

Thus Gingrich was out.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:07 PM

19. They retained the house.

Gingrich had to resign when the repukes still had control due to his infidelities. 2 separate independent issues.

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Response to WA-03 Democrat (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:45 PM

20. They lost five seats in an election they were expected to win historically. If we impeach,

We lose the chance for the presidency,the Senate and maybe we lose our house majority which was won in states that do not favor impeachment... won by moderates.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:51 AM

25. There was no change of control in the house and no change of control in the senate how is ...

... is winning by slightly less a negative thing?!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:04 AM

27. Yeah it was a shocking loss . And we have a presidential race about a year away.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:09 AM

29. lol .. republicans didn't lose anything they kept control of the senate and the house for 2 election

... cycles !!

We can walk and chew gum at the same time while running quiet on the issue with the media

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:46 AM

24. Some people are calling winning the house and senate being hurt

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:27 PM

7. +1,000,000

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:30 PM

8. We should win...fuck going down with impeachment or policy which the Senate will block,

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:59 PM

14. If you are worried about the backlash we can do this:

 

Hold the hearings to expose the facts and the truth to the voters. Pass the Articles of Impeachment just before the election. Let the Senate go down in history as upholders of corruption and lawlessness.

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Response to sarabelle (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:55 PM

18. Absolutely not, we risk the house and McConnell will make sure Trump comes out ahead.

We lose the chance for the presidency and the Senate...totally fucked.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:30 PM

9. Without an Unredacted Copy?

Impeachment is certainly warranted, but impeaching tomorrow without the evidence is rushed. The goal is to remove a corrupt political establishment, it requires a D-Day-like planning and overwhelming assault.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:32 PM

11. Like the elephant who thinks the string holding it won't break

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

It will be hard but it is the right thing and the remedy for the situation.

If Tru$$ia isnít worth it, then no one is.

The backlash is from within our own party. We caught the tiger by the tail. It time to wrap it up and remove the pest from our country. We have strong leaders and we are the majority of the people.

We do what is right. We respect the law. We believe in hope over fear.

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Response to WA-03 Democrat (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:47 PM

13. ++1 Million

 

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:40 PM

12. Absolutely!

That bastille needs to be stormed!

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 05:47 PM

16. The proper response to tyranny is not calculation and cowardice.

Democrats need to stand up for their principles and do their duty. The republicans haven't been fighting fair from the beginning, I have no idea why people seem to think that not impeaching Trump will give us control of the narrative or assure victory in 2020.

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Response to qdouble (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:37 AM

21. Absolutely right!

I'm beyond sick and tired of the Dems trying to be reasonable with a tyrant acting liking a screaming two year old. As Churchill once said, "You do not reason with a tiger when he has your head in his mouth."

tRump is only one of the rethugs who are employing gangster-like tactics to wrest complete power away from the people and the only representatives who are put there by the people to do it. McConnell started this shit show when Obama was in office and they are continuing as we speak. The rethugs effectively have (or certainly believe they have) the power to negotiate Dems away from doing what they need to do. McConnell will continue to pack the courts with their jake leg shills and tRump will sue and keep suing Dems in perpetuity if the Dems don't fight back. Gracefully declining to impeach is the same this as declining to indict these lawless, corrupt and Russian-tainted criminals.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:13 PM

22. We may need to locate a party that is sufficiently opposed to the GOP that they WANT to fight them

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:45 AM

23. No attempt to impeach after what we know is acceptance of what he has done.

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Response to sarabelle (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:37 AM

26. Hold that thought while I go look for the

backbone of the Democratic party.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:08 AM

28. Talk to me about backbone when Trump wins a second term

winning is the only thing that matters...6-3 or even 7-2 SCOTUS...if we don't.

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