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Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:13 AM

Why is there still even ONE hate radio station operating in CA?

Or in ANY blue city?

If they are still operating in these areas, why are there not 1,000 people marching on the sidewalk outside the local hate radio station EVERY GOD DAMNED day?

These stations do NOTHING but DEMONIZE and DEHUMANIZE the citizens of these areas. Ignoring these stations, or leaving them alone is like ignoring a toothache until it eats through your jaw. Excize Them!!!

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Reply Why is there still even ONE hate radio station operating in CA? (Original post)
maxrandb Apr 15 OP
beachbum bob Apr 15 #1
maxrandb Apr 15 #5
brooklynite Apr 15 #2
maxrandb Apr 15 #6
brooklynite Apr 15 #16
mulsh Apr 15 #3
maxrandb Apr 15 #7
PBC_Democrat Apr 15 #4
maxrandb Apr 15 #9
diva77 Apr 15 #26
tritsofme Apr 15 #8
maxrandb Apr 15 #10
tritsofme Apr 15 #11
maxrandb Apr 15 #12
Codeine Apr 15 #13
Brother Buzz Apr 15 #14
onenote Apr 15 #21
Brother Buzz Apr 15 #29
hunter Apr 15 #15
maxsolomon Apr 15 #17
kimbutgar Apr 15 #28
Kaleva Apr 15 #18
maxrandb Apr 15 #19
Kaleva Apr 15 #20
maxrandb Apr 15 #24
Kaleva Apr 15 #27
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 15 #22
Codeine Apr 15 #23
maxrandb Apr 15 #25
Hekate Apr 15 #30
maxrandb Apr 15 #31
Hekate Apr 15 #32
uponit7771 Apr 15 #33
pecosbob Apr 15 #34

Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:20 AM

1. even in blue states, 30-40% of the people believe in the hate crap, not until we have the

Fairness Doctrine back will we be able to do something about it

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:34 AM

5. I get so tired of this attitude

Why do we assume that the economic power of 60, 70 , or in the case of some cities 90% of the population can do NOTHING?

This is not a free speech issue. It's an issue of the 30 or 40% controlling the airways and using them to destroy the majority.

Could hate radio survive without the economic power of blue states and cities?

If they can survive with just the economics of Dumbfuckistan 'Murika... let them try

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:23 AM

2. Let us know when you'll be leading the protest...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:35 AM

6. I'm doing my part

Including just retiring from 30 years in the Navy.

What have you done?

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

16. I've worked to get Democrats elected at all levels...

...and learned not to worry about things not worth worrying about.

RW Talk Radio doesn't convert people to conservative; they were already there.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:23 AM

3. As a native and life long Californaian (Oakland) I urge you to get out

and meet people in most of the state, not just in the urban coastal areas. Our state is not nearly as progressive or liberal as advertised, or fantasized.

since Trump I've even found a few people I grew up with here in Oakland to be as virlent bigoted racists as their Maximum leader. Didn't Rush get his big talk radio shot at at Sacremento station?

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Response to mulsh (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:36 AM

7. Then let hate-radio survive

With only Dumbfuckistan 'Murika if they can.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:18 AM

4. Freedom of Speech, maybe?

"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"

Evelyn Beatrice Hall (not Voltaire)

If there was no audience, there would be no advertisers, no advertisers = no revenue.

I firmly believe that debate is far more effective than demonizing and dehumanizing.
Being called names and insulted isn't going to bring anyone around to our side.


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Response to PBC_Democrat (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:41 AM

9. Hate Radio proves you are wrong

Without this unchallenged propaganda, the bullshit conservative movement would wither and die.

Ignoring it and throwing up our hands and saying nothing can be done is what they rely on.

From Nazi Germany to Rwanda, we have evidence of where this unchallenged propaganda leads to.

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Response to PBC_Democrat (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:25 PM

26. it's a stretch to call it free speech when they disallow dissent on their hate-shows

and disallow ads that challenge their wing-nut ideology.

I've heard that the public owns the airwaves, but I don't understand what that means, given the dire situation of hate radio dominating both AM & FM channels.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:41 AM

8. It is quite troubling that your inclination is to suppress speech you dislike.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:42 AM

10. And I'm quite troubled

That you feel we should just escort the fox into the henhouse

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

11. I am not an authoritarian, I support freedom of speech even when it is odious.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

12. So do I

But I also support boycotting and protesting hatemongers, racists, thieves and liars.

I'm sure you'd do nothing if someone setup shop outside your house with a bullhorn and screamed 24/7 that you were an anti-american terrorist who should be destroyed because of your political beliefs.

Hate-radio does that in my neighborhood and every neighborhood in America.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:53 AM

13. Because liberals don't listen to the radio

so thereís very little economic incentive to cater to our preferences. You can march up and down the sidewalk outside of KFI all you want, but odious fucks like John and Ken pay the bills in a way that a more liberal set of hosts would not.

California is a liberal state with plenty of conservative citizens living here. If their listening habits support these stations sufficient to generate advertising income then thatís just the way it is. I donít want to live in a nation where one side - even if itís my own side - determines what can or cannot be broadcast.

And seriously, for all their ranting blue state hate radio doesnít seem to accomplish much; how often do Republicans win state-wide elections in California? Pro-tip: they donít.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:00 PM

14. Repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, Baby

Factoid: Rush Limbaugh went national the same month and year the Fairness Doctrine was repealed.

Rush Limbaugh honed his skills in hate radio at KFBK in Sacramento, Calif, before going national, and wants to make 05 August a national holiday.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:09 PM

21. Correct factoid

The FCC adopted its order repealing the Fairness Doctrine on August 5, 1987. Limbaugh did not go national until August 1988.

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Response to onenote (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:42 PM

29. Picky, picky, picky

What's a measly year in the bigger scheme of things?

Thanks for the correction, and truth be told, I wasn't aware when his show actually went into syndication because we were already being bombarded by his daily screeds. Hell, there was scarcely a blue collar business in the Sacramento Valley that didn't have their radios dialed into his show; people who never gave politics a second thought were suddenly authorities. Scary, how much influence he wielded, and how he did it.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

15. First you've got to find the physical radio station.

When my mom was working in radio there was a big radio station with a prominent sign out front, nice lobby, etc. Out back there was a big antenna, stand-by generator, various sheds, cars, trucks, the works. Inside the station there were local sales people and news people with actual offices, and disk jockeys in the studios. It was a lot like WKRP.

Now it's likely a local radio station operates out of a "business suite" post office box. If there's a physical address, it's out in some forgotten industrial park behind a roll-up metal door. Any local sales people come to you, and any local talent operates out of home studios. The actual broadcast antenna is out in a field or up on a mountain somewhere, shared by multiple broadcasters, and maintained by contractors.

If I was emperor I'd restrict traditional broadcast radio and television to 51% local content or more, 100% local advertising, and send all the corporate crap, national hate and religious radio included, to satellite and the internet.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

17. because they BOUGHT and OWN the station.

just like Christian Broadcasters, Sinclair with TV stations, etc.

Seattle has THREE hate-radio stations, and the serious "all news" station features a toxic malcontent who spends 4 hours mid-day bashing government in general and Seattle government in specific.

that's right when most retirees, tradespeople, and delivery drivers are listening to the radio.

Liberals listen in the morning and night on their way home, to the soothing centrist tones of NPR, where Republicans are just as reasonable as Democrats.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:39 PM

28. We used to have a progressive radio station green 960

Was progressive 24/7 had high ratings got a lot of local advertisers. Then in 2010 the station was replaced by right wing shit glen blecch, rump and hatity. When we called to complain the person on the line said too bad clear channel made us change the format.

This was in liberal San Francisco. At that point I stopped listening to radio but then in late 2011 I got Sirius in my car and got my progressive talk radio back but for a price.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:24 PM

18. Progressives support freedom of speech. Radicals don't.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:47 PM

19. Protesting and boycotting Hate Radio is NOT against Free speech

It's a perfect example of the power of free speech.

Let them spew their racist shit in Dumbfuckistan 'Murika. Blue city residents don't have to be docile and silent while a fucking radio station smears and dehumanizes them.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:56 PM

20. Your stated goal is to shut the raido stations down so you are against free speech.

Your comment:

" Excize Them!!!"

And you are free to protest in front of your nearest so-called hate radio station but I doubt you will. You also could engage in peaceful civil disobedience by handcuffing yourself to the front door of such a radio station or go on a hunger strike to draw attention to your cause but again, I doubt you will because this isn't that important of an issue to you for you to risk arrest, starving or taking time away from weekend leisure activities.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:22 PM

24. Well, that would be their choice, wouldn't it?

They could provide something other than hate filled crap and may provide some ballance and maybe the boycotts and protests would stop.

Hell, they may even go back to serving and reflecting the values of the communities they are supposed to serve.

Imagine that.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:33 PM

27. But again, this really isn't much of an issue for you.

If it was, you'd be engaging in peaceful civil disobedience or at the very least, actually protesting and making the news that way to draw attention to your cause.

Rhetoric and actions taken should match. There's a big disconnect between what you say and what you do.

Can you imagine MLK just writing letters to the editor?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:19 PM

22. Somebody has to entertain the folks in Nunes' district. t

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:21 PM

23. People aren't becoming racist assholes

by listening to talk radio. They listen to talk radio BECAUSE theyíre racist assholes. Taking away Limbaugh wonít change them one bit.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:23 PM

25. Sure, because if history has taught us anything

it's that propaganda doesn't work

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:49 PM

30. This is my first laugh of the day. Anyone in doubt about the reach of hate groups should check...

...with any of the groups who track such things. It's been a number of years since I checked their online maps, but my state of California has always had a robust segment of nuts and hate groups, even along the coast.

It's the reason I will never support the partition of California into multiple states. Unlike the fantasies of outsiders who think we'll get 6 Democratic Senators out if the deal, I know full well that we will get 4 Republicans and 2 Democrats, because once you leave the coast, California is pretty "red."

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Response to Hekate (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:58 PM

31. All I'm saying is

Let them operate on the economies of Dumbfuckistan, California... not San Francisco and Los Angeles

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #31)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:01 PM

32. Local radio stations & local tv stations have been bought up en masse by conservative conglomerates

Sinclair and I think one other. It's pretty bad nationally. Check your local broadcasting area and see how much independence is actually left.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:14 PM

33. They're blaming Pelosi for Trumps tax hikes on the middle class

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:00 PM

34. The KKK fire-bombed the offices of KPFT (Pacifica Radio) in Houston more than once when I was young

Violence is never the proper recourse to hate...in this case, neither is legislation. The stations' sources of revenue must be attacked, economically. Their sponsors need to be boycotted and shamed publicly for associating with racism and hatred. It works.

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