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Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:23 PM

A mentally ill man made noise in his cell...




A mentally ill man made noise in his cell.

Four police officers then stormed his cell, bashed him into a wall, punched him multiple times *in the face*, and pummeled him into the ground.

This. Is. Why. People. Kneel.

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Reply A mentally ill man made noise in his cell... (Original post)
Demovictory9 Mar 31 OP
flotsam Mar 31 #1
janterry Mar 31 #2
Judi Lynn Mar 31 #21
xmas74 Apr 2 #37
janterry Apr 2 #38
xmas74 Apr 2 #40
malaise Mar 31 #3
Cold War Spook Mar 31 #4
Quixote1818 Mar 31 #16
marble falls Mar 31 #5
Quixote1818 Mar 31 #17
marble falls Mar 31 #18
Arkansas Granny Mar 31 #6
janterry Mar 31 #9
Judi Lynn Mar 31 #19
Arkansas Granny Mar 31 #26
janterry Mar 31 #7
Demovictory9 Mar 31 #8
Demovictory9 Mar 31 #11
bluestarone Mar 31 #20
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 31 #34
defacto7 Mar 31 #10
demigoddess Mar 31 #12
Kurt V. Mar 31 #33
demigoddess Apr 2 #36
scrutineer Mar 31 #13
Geechie Mar 31 #23
Thunderbeast Mar 31 #14
kimbutgar Mar 31 #15
SHRED Mar 31 #22
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 31 #28
warmfeet Mar 31 #24
zentrum Mar 31 #25
spike jones Mar 31 #27
Kurt V. Mar 31 #30
world wide wally Mar 31 #29
47of74 Mar 31 #31
Kurt V. Mar 31 #32
LanternWaste Apr 2 #41
Akacia Mar 31 #35
Raine Apr 2 #39

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:30 PM

1. I thought choke holds were banned . N/T

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:32 PM

2. That officer needs to be fired

Also, I'm sorry to say - but when they started to do the take down, the women weren't able to help. They were trying to get him on the floor, but the women could not do it. They didn't have the strength.

That was horrible. (Speaking as someone who has done a lot of take-downs)

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Response to janterry (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:26 PM

21. Before they were finished (the original male had been kneeing him), 3 more men rushed in there.n/t

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Response to janterry (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 02:58 AM

37. I don't think that they didn't have the strength.

They just didn't use proper technique or anything even closely resembling it. I've done plenty of takedowns over the years-once upon a time they were three man until many mental institutions got rid of the three man with the third on legs. (As a 5'2, 112lb woman in my early 20's I was usually on the legs because I regularly worked my lower body and could squat longer than the other staff. Those were the days.) Most now do a two man hold with pivots. Learn the technique and it's not that hard. More than anything the male jailer was in the way.

With that many people already in the cell there was no way they could ever properly implement a hold or a takedown. They didn't have the room for it. I'm not really sure why they were doing it in the first place. He seemed secure in his holding cell.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 04:54 AM

38. That was a swat team

Prison take downs are different than psych. hospitals. The shield is how you do a take down in prison when someone is combative (the guy balled up his fists and took a combative stance). He was not following a direct command (which is what you need to do, and he knew it).

In psych. hospitals, we used to do 2 person take downs all the time (I did them there as well). Hundreds. But in prison, you don't do the same thing. Force is okay in prison. But not what that guard did. That was terrible.

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Response to janterry (Reply #38)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 10:13 AM

40. It still goes back to the other poster saying the women didn't have the strength

They didn't have the proper technique. It had nothing to do with strength. I know someone who used to work SWAT and they said the same-it's more technique than strength and that's a group of people who did nothing right.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:35 PM

3. This is a crime against humanity

This is torture - cruel and unusual punishment.

It has been a slippery road since George Bush and Dick Cheney decided that torture was legal. When you hire the soldiers you made torture foreigners as local law enforcement, the chickens come home to roost.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:40 PM

4. He was in a cell.

I guess the cops feared for their lives.

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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:49 PM

16. That's the first thing that came to my mind too! WTF????

I am speechless as to how insane this is! They just wanted to beat him up until he got on the ground since he was already in a CELL??? There is no rhyme or reason to anything here other than them just wanting to be violent toward him.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:48 PM

5. Jebus. Other than just not falling to the ground, he wasn't resisting.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:51 PM

17. I think if cops come INTO your cell to beat you up and torture you, you have every right to resist

this fucking BS. He is in a cell already. What was the purpose of this other than to come in and torture him?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:16 PM

18. And it looked like a padded cell, too. Everybody knew he was ill. And then in the end ...

everybody else ran in and piled on.

I sure do not want to live in that county.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:49 PM

6. What were the flashes of blue light?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:58 PM

9. I think tazers?

n/t

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:23 PM

19. I wondered if someone was clobbering him with a flashlight which went on accidentally. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:01 PM

26. Reading at the link provided by janterry, he was tazed several times as well as beaten.

Sickening.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:56 PM

7. Looks like the aftermath involved justice

The man who was punched received a settlement and the officers involved were charged and fired.
This came out because staff were upset at what happened and reported it. So, part of this system worked (some institutions would never report a thing.......)

Here's the article: https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/police-brutality/watch-video-shows-california-jailers-beating-tasering-mentally-ill-inmate--LeqSFoA2EGc7S1sjzsJaA/

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:58 PM

8. oh good!

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:00 PM

11. from the article: awarded 1.4 million, three were fired

"One was holding me and then one tased me, and they put me in their sleeper stronghold, whatever it's called," Bangert said in May.

Bangert is eventually wheeled back into the cell in a "safety chair" with a spit mask over his head.

As jailers remove the mask, Bangert appears limp staring face up from the chair with his face covered in his own blood.

Two deputies and one jail official were fired and also faced charged for falsifying police reports, according to The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento civil rights attorney Mark Merin said the video shows an "obviously mentally ill man acting out in an irrational way" who deputies victimized and "decided to end it in a very forceful, over-the-top-way, inflicting serious injuries to Mr. Bangert."

"They demonstrated total insensitivity and it was clearly an abusive gang attack on a defenseless individual," Merin said.

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:25 PM

20. Sounds like he got $240,000.00 out of 1.4 million?

Officers only charged for making false statements? Hell he will use that money up on future treatment i bet! WOW!

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:20 PM

34. thanks for the link

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:59 PM

10. Did the man become mentally ill before or after he was put in that cell?

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:11 PM

12. They didn't seem to have any purpose other than punching him.

They didn't seem to give him any medicine to calm him. They simply beat him thinking that would have an effect on a mentally ill man.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:15 PM

33. there is no they. it was one person

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 12:48 AM

36. they- the authorities. they-the people that let all those people beat him.

they had no aim for his care.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:15 PM

13. A mentally ill man made noise in front of the entire country

for years, and then the Kremlin installed him to the presidency.

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Response to scrutineer (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:37 PM

23. Za-zinnng!!!

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:27 PM

14. My psychotic son was restrained and tazed twice.

He was in jail. The guards took him to solitary confinement without treatment. He stayed there for three weeks.

This is how the mentally ill are treated by our society. A large percentage of jail inmates should be in treatment...even if they do not have the capacity to make that choice on their own. County jails are an inhumane alternative.

My son recovered, but the trauma is still with him.

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Response to Thunderbeast (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:46 PM

15. My son with autism has had these meltdown where we've had to 5150 him

He spent 2 nights in a facility and now the threat alone of calling the cops calms him down immediately. I am going to show him this video. He had a meltdown at his day program recently and trashed a bunch of stuff. We had to reimburse them $1200 for the property damage. This incident looks mild and Iím glad the man was awarded damages and the police officers fired. The times I had to call the cops they use it as a training situation for rookie cops how to deal with autistic people. The sight of police officers immediately calms my son down and I so respect the restraint of those officers who has dealt with my son.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:33 PM

22. This happens all the time to the mentally ill in police custody

They are not trained.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:06 PM

28. The most disturbing part of all is....

probably 99% of such incidents are never even heard about and certainly not reported. And in most cases, the damage done to the mentally ill makes their illness worse.

Once any inmate is behind the wall, most Americans simply do not care.....

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:45 PM

24. This country gave up on the mentally ill

decades ago.

Very few people seem to give a shit.

Caring people need to take this back and turn it around.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:00 PM

25. Yes. Yes. Yes.nt

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:02 PM

27. Did anyone see any "good Cops" in that video? n/t

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Response to spike jones (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

30. i did . 3 women. that guy was out of control

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

29. I assume the "mentally ill" ones were the crowd that rushed into the room to beat on the poor guy.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:12 PM

31. I give up.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:13 PM

32. Watch that again. 1 man, completely out of control, while 3 women have to intervene.

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #32)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 12:30 PM

41. Intervene?

As in one woman instructing the patient to fall to the floor while he was yet simultaneously being held up in an arm hold preventing him from complying with her instructions?

That kind of intervention?

(I dig how consistently you're attempting to define a narrative here. It's not working. At all. But hat's-off for the old college try...)

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:19 PM

35. So one of the female officers is saying, "get on the ground, get on the ground'

which is impossible for the guy to do since the male officer has him in an upright choke hold! And what in the name of hell were they going into his cell for anyway? Its not like he was going anywhere or could do anything! So glad he got some money out of the deal but the whole thing was reprehensible.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 05:01 AM

39. Mentally ill, he shouldn't be in a cell

he should be where he gets mental help.

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