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Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:57 PM

Micro lofts in a VERY old mall...great idea

https://stories.thebl.com/65920/woman-lives-in-oldest-mall-in-america-after-48-abandoned-shops-are-turned-into-homes-5.html#.XJwJP8brtho.facebook

Woman lives in oldest mall in America after 48 abandoned shops are turned into homes

14:46, 21/03/2019

Our awareness of tiny homes has increased over the past few years, but many of the wonderful examples we’ve seen consist of freestanding, outdoor units. Micro lofts bring the concept indoors.

Providence, Rhode Island is one place where you’ll find these small apartments catching on. They are housed in The Arcade, an 1829 architectural gem and America’s oldest indoor shopping mall. The building itself has been through several rounds of restorations and became a national landmark in the 1970s.

Three levels make up the shopping center, with the first floor being dedicated to retail shops and the second and third floors being tiny lofts. Evan Granoff, the owner, wanted to convert the unused space into something livable and affordable.

There are 48 apartments in The Arcade, and unit sizes are between 225 to 800 square feet. Each comes with basic built-in furniture: a bed with drawers, cushioned bench/seating, refrigerator, and shelves. Since The Arcade is zoned as a rooming house, cooking ranges are not allowed, but microwaves are fine.






snip for much more... the video is fantastic too..

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Reply Micro lofts in a VERY old mall...great idea (Original post)
SoCalDem Mar 2019 OP
UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #1
OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #33
tblue37 Mar 2019 #2
More_Cowbell Mar 2019 #8
tblue37 Mar 2019 #11
UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #15
tblue37 Mar 2019 #19
JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #22
tblue37 Mar 2019 #23
OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #34
dflprincess Mar 2019 #14
tblue37 Mar 2019 #20
Kaleva Mar 2019 #30
Raine Mar 2019 #3
Squinch Mar 2019 #4
Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #13
ProfessorGAC Mar 2019 #24
Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #5
madaboutharry Mar 2019 #6
Mosby Mar 2019 #7
YOHABLO Mar 2019 #9
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #29
ZeroSomeBrains Mar 2019 #10
FailureToCommunicate Mar 2019 #12
LanternWaste Mar 2019 #28
Raine Mar 2019 #45
Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #16
Demovictory9 Mar 2019 #17
Control-Z Mar 2019 #18
lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #21
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #25
lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #43
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #44
gldstwmn Mar 2019 #26
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #32
MineralMan Mar 2019 #27
Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2019 #31
lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #36
Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2019 #41
lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #35
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #37
lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #39
Mosby Mar 2019 #38
SoCalDem Mar 2019 #40
UpInArms Mar 2019 #42

Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:59 PM

1. I love this! And nowadays you don't need a cooking range or full size oven to make anything you

 

want. Great idea.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:46 PM

33. InstantPot with 2-3 liners is all you need

I use a Chinese bamboo steam/with cover inside InstantPot to make a meal: chicken & fresh steamed veggies. then flavor with whatever sounds good

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:02 PM

2. 800 sq. feet--My $600/month 1-bedroom apartment is just 700 sq. feet, in the midwest, not on the

coast, so this sounds like a great idea. (I also pay all utilities, and they are high.)

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:24 PM

8. I need to move!

My 650 sq foot apartment in California (where my law license is) is $1643. The building was built in 1961. No dishwasher, assigned or covered parking, laundry....

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

11. I don't have a dishwasher, either. But you'd need to move to Kansas. nt

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

15. You can get a counter top dishwasher for only about 200 buck or so! nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 05:38 AM

19. I have never heard of a countertop dishwasher! nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:20 AM

22. I have one. It comes in three parts:

A rag, a bottle of detergent, and a dish drainer.

Voila! Clean dishes.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:36 AM

23. I looked at videos--I don't have sufficient counter space for one. nt

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:48 PM

34. Me too! It can be a 'get centered' meditative excercise. ✨🙏✨

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:01 PM

14. Where are you in the midwest?

I'm in a Minneapolis suburb and pay $805 for a 625 sq foot 1 bedroom (plus a one car garage) no dishwasher, laundry in the basement of the building.

Not that what I pay wouldn't be bargain in New York or California.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 05:38 AM

20. Kansas. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:13 PM

30. I paid 24k for my 900 square foot home back in 2000

It hasn't gone up in value since then.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:10 PM

3. What a terrific idea

I hope more unused abandoned malls get used this way!

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:31 PM

4. Beautiful building. Glad they found a way to make it work.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

13. I hear a lot of malls are struggling...

I know we have a local one that never seems to be busy. That might be location, it's not super easy to get to, but in general brick and mortar retail is struggling.

Great way to put buildings to use.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:13 AM

24. The Mall Nearest To Us...

...(16-18 miles away), had a Sears at the north end, Carson's in the middle and JC Penny at the south end.
All 3 are closed! I'm not sure how any of the other stores survive!
All on one level; would be great for senior housing!

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:34 PM

5. I first saw this on tv in Japan. It was a wonderful use of space.

It was perfect. The place was rented to capacity. They had converted an old mall or office building in an urban area, turning it into a lot of tiny apartments (well, it's Japan, in a crowded urban area). It was perfect. That way, younger workers had more affordable places to live in, and could live near work for the first time. Some just walked to work.

The small apartments were teeny tiny, but were built with Japanese efficiency. Nothing was full sized, and there were no rooms, as such, in the apartments. The bedroom converted to the LR, when you wanted it to. The tiny kitchenette all folded away, when not in use. Tiny closet with a curtain. No doors, except the entrance.

I guess they rented them. But it's possible some were purchased as homes.

So glad to see America is now doing this. It's a great way to use the old malls that are now dinosaurs.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:34 PM

6. It is so lovely.

The film at the link is very interesting. Thank you for posting.

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Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:31 PM

9. We are in a housing crisis across the nation. We have to do something.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:09 PM

29. I went to junior high school here...It's now a senior residence

https://www.liveatpioneerpresidentsplace.com/

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in Salina, Kansas

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As a resident at Pioneer Presidents' Place Apartments, you can take in the fresh air while on a stroll throughout our community. We proudly offer elevators to provide easy access from one floor to the next. We know you’ll also love our frequent community events, on-site laundry facility, and access to the main bus route hub just across the street.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:35 PM

10. This is a great idea

We need to make lemonade out of lemons. I hope that this gives life to old malls and provide low income housing as well to needy families. Thanks for providing this good news story to us SoCalDem.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:20 PM

12. Sorry, but it looks like a college dorm...or a prison cell block. People here seem to

think it's a swell idea, and maybe it is.

But it is hardly a "new" idea.

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:04 PM

28. Who argued it's a new idea?

And why apologize for sentiment?

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:25 AM

45. "Everthing that's old is new again" which is a good thing

too many ignore ideas that came before thinking they're much smarter then people in the past. I'm glad to hear it's not a new idea.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

16. The Arcade is a fabulous building!

The video doesn't really do it justice, as it's really quite beautiful and quaint. The architecture is truly interesting and very historic. Location, location, location...it's in the heart of downtown Providence with great restaurants, shopping, theater, and sports nearby.

Admittedly, it's been a while since I've actually been in the building, but I'll have to make a point of visiting it again soon, especially now that I know what's behind those upper level doorways.

Thanks for posting this, SoCalDem!

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Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:46 AM

18. K&R eom

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 05:52 AM

21. I've seen this before. It needs to happen everywhere. So many dead malls.

I'd like to see some government services there, too. Simple health care, children's daycare, grocery, pharmacy, banking.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:54 PM

25. In our former hometown

there is a building (Formerly Home Base) that has in excess of 100,000 sq ft. that has been vacant since Lowes came to town..I doubt it has been filled since 2016 since we moved. It sat there for at least 20 years..

It could have been re-purposed ..

We also had a HUGE walmart that built a NEW walmart in the SAME shopping center (but just across a county line that bordered one side of the center..(to get a NEW 10 yr tax forbearance).. And the empty box is still there..vacant

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 07:44 PM

43. The towns get bought off....that's corruption

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #43)

Fri Mar 29, 2019, 02:06 AM

44. It saved my beautiful school and gave affordable housing

to old people/a win-win

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:57 PM

26. I have been in that very building when

there were stores still in it. It's a great building. I'd live there.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:18 PM

32. There still ARE stores there

which only makes it better for tenants

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:01 PM

27. They look a bit like cells in a cell-block tiers.

I'm not sure I'd like them.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:15 PM

31. Similar to the Woodruff Arcade in Chicago.

Unfortunately, I believe it was demolished not too long ago to make room for a new apartment building.

https://preservationchicago.org/chicago07/woodruff-arcade-building/

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:52 PM

36. They could have saved the demolition/construction steps

and just retrofitted residential units. Shame.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:58 PM

41. I'm sure someone proposed that but the new bldg is about 7 stories the economics just didn't work.

And to be honest, the outside of it wasn't that attractive so even though it was a rare arcade style building it probably didn't generate enough public outcry to preserve it.
And Chicago in general tears down old buildings like aldermen tear up parking tickets.

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:52 PM

35. I've been talking about this exact thing for a while.

The collapse of bricks-n-mortar retail, combined with the rise in housing costs, makes retail-to-residential a very natural option.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:00 PM

37. People forget..that's how retail started

Family lived above or behind the "storefront"..That's what made it all possible

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:10 PM

39. Yup, at least as far back as the Roman Empire.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:15 PM

40. Builders are not altruistic

GOVERNMENT should be required to fill the gaps.. "Business" is all about making money for investors..

What needs to happen is that "escape clauses" need to be a part of a business agreement. If you build a big building (for commerce) and it fails, you can't weasel out of it by just walking away and leaving your monstrosity behind for the municipality to police/care-for etc until you "sell it"..

If you do not pay up BEFORE you split, the property becomes the municipality's to repurpose..

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Response to SoCalDem (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 04:17 PM

42. What a wonderful use of a beautiful building

A perfect city space

👍🏼👍🏼

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