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Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:46 AM

Just Heard Jeremy Bash On AM Joe Say The Following About Trump....

Trump asked for Russian assistance.
Trump received Russian assistance.
Trump benefited from Russian assistance.
Trump rewarded Russian assistance.

I never heard it said quite so concisely.

And yet the Barr Letter/Mueller Report tells us there was 'no collusion'`

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Reply Just Heard Jeremy Bash On AM Joe Say The Following About Trump.... (Original post)
global1 Mar 26 OP
rzemanfl Mar 26 #1
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 26 #2
NewJeffCT Mar 26 #5
gtar100 Mar 26 #11
pangaia Mar 26 #33
lagomorph777 Mar 26 #35
secondwind Mar 26 #3
onit2day Mar 26 #25
PatSeg Mar 26 #4
watoos Mar 26 #6
misanthrope Mar 26 #14
nini Mar 26 #17
uponit7771 Mar 26 #18
Grasswire2 Mar 26 #29
lagomorph777 Mar 26 #36
rainin Mar 26 #7
roamer65 Mar 26 #8
dajoki Mar 26 #9
duforsure Mar 26 #10
SHRED Mar 26 #20
Grasswire2 Mar 26 #30
ancianita Mar 26 #12
GoCubsGo Mar 26 #13
berksdem Mar 26 #15
lagomorph777 Mar 26 #37
yaesu Mar 26 #16
saljr1 Mar 26 #19
Grasswire2 Mar 26 #31
Nitram Mar 26 #21
cilla4progress Mar 26 #22
shanny Mar 26 #23
onit2day Mar 26 #24
Different Drummer Mar 26 #26
MBS Mar 26 #27
Docreed2003 Mar 26 #28
machoneman Mar 26 #32
Ligyron Mar 26 #42
wishstar Mar 26 #34
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 26 #38
highplainsdem Mar 26 #39
UniteFightBack Mar 26 #40
trickyguy Mar 26 #41

Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:10 AM

1. K&R. n/t

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:31 AM

2. Barr said no collusion. Haven't read Mueller's

words yet. Although they are working together now so hard to imagine they are diametrically opposed?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:35 AM

5. I think Mueller's report presents the evidence

with the intention of letting Congress decide. Barr is saying "nothing to see here" because he believes the president is basically above the law and he's trying to control the narrative and the media, and that's been 98% successful so far.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

11. It's only successful because he's given republicans exactly what they want to hear.

The tenacity of the reporting in the media is the result of their influence in the media. And that is their fortè - propelling false narratives forward into the public attention. But we still have time and the fact that the Mueller report hasn't even been released yet means that they may have tipped their hand a little too soon. The truth has a way with fools that no one controls.

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Response to gtar100 (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:42 PM

33. We need to better propel a true narrative in the media

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:09 PM

35. +1. There is no such thing as Barr Letter/Mueller Report. Two different things.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:31 AM

3. K&R!

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Response to secondwind (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:39 PM

25. All repubs ran on preexisting medical condition Now want to get rid of it

 

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:32 AM

4. Oh yes

I like concise and to the point.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:49 AM

6. Mueller was trying to prove criminal conspiracy,

which has a high bar. One has to prove criminal intent, something hard to do if one doesn't interview the subject to ascertain his state of mind.

Of course there was collusion, that's a given.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:19 AM

14. Bingo

It seems perfectly reasonable that Barr summarized things in the way best for his boss and without changing the general conclusion of Mueller's report if we bear in mind that the special counsel was trying to build a case on direct evidence. There's a lot of degrees of culpability possible without meeting a threshold for indictment.

It's like conflating "innocent" with "not guilty." They aren't the same at all.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:07 AM

17. Thank You

The lack of understanding on that point makes me nuts.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:07 AM

18. +1, not only that but Mueller only looked into Russian ... ***GOVERNMENT*** not Russians

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:03 PM

29. yes

At least Chuck Todd is making that point.

Must parse every word from weasels like Barr.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:10 PM

36. Barr is high, all right.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:55 AM

7. And lied about it.

And said he believed Putin.
And obstructed the investigation into it.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:58 AM

8. Bash is CIA.

Once CIA, always CIA.

He talks to people who have seen the intel.

Bash knows the truth.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:04 AM

9. asked, received, benefited, rewarded...

sure sounds like conspiracy.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:06 AM

10. Wonder if Mueller and Barr have done this this way to set trump up even more

With sealed indictments waiting for them all , and to gather more information that can be used to conclusively prove trump committed both obstruction , and conspired actively with putin and russia to insure he'd win. With lots of criminal indictments sealed and waiting to use against them watch how long before trump tries to start firing people involved that could do that to him and his family. Like he has done with an AG, and an FBI head , but Barr realizes he's a crook and very, very dangerous after seeing the Mueller report . Justice will prevail , and Mueller will be a hero for what he's done when its all exposed and comes out. trump and his family will be held accountable for it all hopefully. Could it be they waiting to organized a complete strike against them all , and all at once? Collecting all materials , and uncover evidence they've tried to destroy? We haven't heard the last of Robert Mueller's cases against trump and his family. He's too smart for this to not be finished .

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Response to duforsure (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:25 AM

20. I don't think so

I appreciate your optimism however.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:04 PM

30. No.

Barr is a true believer.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

12. It's called by law "aiding and abetting a hostile foreign power," which makes it a high crime. It's

not Mueller's call to interpret and adjudicate Trump's actions. It's up to Congress and the courts.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:13 AM

13. The Barr Letter is NOT the Mueller Report.

It's time we stop pushing that bullshit.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:28 AM

15. 100% on point...

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:13 PM

37. Yes, thank you!

Sheesh when our side buys that crap it's scary!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:53 AM

16. Barr does not speak for the country, the Barr press release is meaningless. It will take all our war

against the fascists to get to the whole & full truth of the Mueller report. I just hope our party is ready for that war, no high road crap, that have to get NASTY!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:14 AM

19. Anytime Mr Bash is on TV I look forward to it

He is the most wise, measured and concise analyst I have heard. I have a ton of respect for him because of his years of service in government.

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Response to saljr1 (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:06 PM

31. Notice that he rarely blinks.

He's very well trained in spycraft.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:30 AM

21. What pisses me off about Scarborough is that the headline on his op ed in the Post this

morning read, "You lost this one, Democrats. Now move on." What the fuck! Doesn't he mean "WE" lost this one? Is he pivoting that fast to get back on the side he thinks is winning?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:42 AM

22. Mueller was actually tasked with finding

"links and coordination," not collusion.


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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:47 AM

23. Only way for Mueller to thread that needle

is to differentiate between Russia and Russians--i.e. the government per se v. connected-but-plausibly-deniable individuals.

I'll bet that is clear in the Mueller Report--which is why they want to hide it with the Barr letter.

I find it hard to believe that Mueller will allow / has allowed his work to be derailed like this. Or maybe that's just not in his job description.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:36 PM

24. Not enough evidence for criminal charge of collusion.

 

NOT that there was no collusion

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:39 PM

26. The Barr letter tells us that.

We haven't seen the Mueller report, so it's impossible to make a judgment on that just yet.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:00 PM

27. Michelle Goldberg, NYT column today (Tuesday March 26)

Her concluding sentence (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/opinion/mueller-report-trump.html)
If Trump thinks he has been vindicated, then what is he hiding?

And I'd add, if he and his cronies are so innocent, why all the lies about their connections to and interactions with Russians?



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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:00 PM

28. K&R

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:07 PM

32. Barr may be denying the report (to save his job) until a court or public opinions says...

he must release it. Then, he can claim a mea culpa to Trump and wash his hands of it. Then, on the matter of no testimony by Trump, the kids, etc., doing so, even if they admitted guilt in court and offered themselves up to a jury charge, Trump could easily pardon them all in a heartbeat, as we know.

Ah, but the SDNY charges can't be pardoned, as we know. So, even if Mueller's team couldn't get Trump, knowing that the SDNY could get him after he leaves office an actually thrown the bum in jail, why the hand-wringing now?

I'd be glad to see almost all of his evil cabal in jail by 2020 just before the election. Imagine how that will look to even his most ardent backers?

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Response to machoneman (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:08 PM

42. I believe SDNY is Federal so Trump can pardon.

We have to hope in NY State and their killer AG to bring the Trump cabal to justice.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:06 PM

34. Then he lied about Russian contacts and assistance and tried to stop investigation

The past 5 days has been the most shocking gaslighting whitewash of an investigation I've ever seen

My spouse has been so enraged bordering on unhinged and I have been so sickened and disheartened that we have blocked all of the networks and cable channels from our TV's and any channels including business channels where there is any chance we have to look at or listen to the monster in WH and his enablers and media pundits acting like all of this never happened that we clearly witnessed.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:57 PM

38. Would they fight so hard to keep it hidden if it really exonerates him?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:13 PM

39. K&R

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:29 PM

40. I like that guy ....Mr. Jeremy Bash. nt

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:08 PM

41. With rTumps raging narcissistic, bullying personality he had to "win" the election at all cost.

We know he hated "crooked Hilary" and would do anything to defeat her.

After all, she was winning the debates, called him a puppet and would have won if the
game didn't get rigged in his favor.

We know he's enough of a low life to accept any help from anyone - and Putin and gang were available.

So it would be really easy for a corrupt candidate like him to ask for and accept any help he could get, even
if it came from one of America's known adversaries. What did he care?

So he asked and Russia helped him and Russia benefitted from it. And ultimately, so did rTump.

It's exactly what bullies do to win. CHEAT.

And we're the real losers in this game. We got stuck with a liar and a thief in the
Oval Office.

But most bullies see their day coming and rTumps time is just about up.



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