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Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:00 PM

Does anyone doubt that Donald Trump inspired the New Zealand massacre?

Trump didn't pull the trigger in Christchurch. But the man who did praised him as a symbol of "white identity"

CHAUNCEY DEVEGA MARCH 15, 2019 2:05PM (UTC)

Words are weapons. Those weapons can be lethal.

The president of the United States gives both permission and encouragement for public's behavior, values and norms. This is true both in the United States and around the world. He or she is that powerful.

Earlier on Friday, a 28-year-old white man who appears to have described himself as "an actual fascist" entered two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, armed with assault rifles and killed at least 49 people, injuring many 20 others. New Zealand authorities also report that the attacker had placed two explosive devices on his vehicle, which apparently did not detonate.

In an especially gruesome contemporary twist, the gunman apparently streamed parts of the terror attack live on Facebook. Although that feed and other accounts apparently associated with the shooter have been taken down, the New York Times reports that both the 17-minute video and a manifesto apparently posted by the shooter have been widely disseminated on social media.

According to various reports, the alleged terrorist specifically cited President Trump as an inspiration. His online manifesto praises Trump as “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.”


https://www.salon.com/2019/03/15/does-anyone-doubt-that-donald-trump-inspired-the-new-zealand-massacre/

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Reply Does anyone doubt that Donald Trump inspired the New Zealand massacre? (Original post)
workinclasszero Mar 15 OP
Johnny2X2X Mar 15 #1
workinclasszero Mar 15 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 15 #4
Generic Other Mar 15 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 15 #3
underpants Mar 15 #6
Johnny2X2X Mar 15 #14
WhiskeyGrinder Mar 15 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 15 #10
Generic Other Mar 15 #11
WhiskeyGrinder Mar 15 #12
Generic Other Mar 15 #23
Doreen Mar 15 #7
MyOwnPeace Mar 15 #9
durablend Mar 15 #21
JuJuYoshida Mar 15 #13
lpbk2713 Mar 15 #15
mia Mar 15 #16
happybird Mar 15 #17
dustyscamp Mar 15 #18
ansible Mar 15 #22
ansible Mar 15 #19
global1 Mar 15 #20

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

1. Yes

Trump as literally given a shout out in the shooter's manifesto.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:06 PM

2. So the fascist disease of Trumpism spreads worldwide

Sorry world but it seems we can't do anything to stop our homegrown fascist monster.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:10 PM

4. Trump didn't start it but he feeds it.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:21 PM

8. He feeds on the hatred and division

Like a bloated parasite consuming gangrenous tissue.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

3. His primary inspiration seems to have been Anders Breivik, but he mentioned Trump

as “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.” Trump's influence is only part of a much larger international white supremacist movement.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:14 PM

6. He's a product and reflection of their propaganda

You’d think people would be weary of “it was in the internet” but many radical elements use it effectively and, hell, the spare time yoga pants crowd can be convinced not to get their kid their shots.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

14. Candace Owens

He literally wrote that American Trump Loving Conservative Candace Owens was his biggest inspiration.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

5. White terrorism existed before Trump. Trump is a symptom of white terrorism, not an inspiration

for it.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:23 PM

10. Exactly.

Trump normalizes it and feeds it because of his position, but he didn't invent it. If you read Anders Breivik's crackpot manifesto you can see where at least some of this stuff comes from (besides the writer's own diseased mind). One of his main influences was the virulently anti-Muslim activist, Breitbart contributor and Trump supporter Pamela Geller. Breivik is not allowed internet access in prison but there are plenty more of his ilk out there, recruiting on the internet just like ISIS.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:28 PM

11. He's their poster boy

Everything we hate about him, they glorify.

He's no closer to resembling their idea of a specimen of the master race than he is the evangelicals' Christ and yet both groups have transformed him into some cult hero. They worship an blustering orange combover with no substance but plenty of poisonous bile.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:30 PM

12. They don't, actually.

Some people do. White nationalists do not.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:29 PM

23. They fooled me

I pretty much consider them all Tump Youth since Charlottesville.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:18 PM

7. Inspired no.

Encouraged yes.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:23 PM

9. OH, come on!!!

You know that sometime in the next month or so Huckabee-Sanders will come out again and tell you that there is no way that IQ45 EVER said anything that would suggest that we should not love one another............

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:21 PM

21. Clearly!

She'll say if the "left" had allowed Trump to build his wall none of this would've ever happened

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

13. good luck taking the video off the internet

it's all over sites right now.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:38 PM

15. I have no doubt that Donald Trump inspired the New Zealand massacre.




I have to wonder how many copy cats around the world (most likely USA)
are waiting for the right opportunity.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:42 PM

16. Trump Appears to Tease a Call to Arms in Unhinged Breitbart Interview

https://hillreporter.com/trump-appears-to-tease-a-call-to-arms-in-unhinged-breitbart-interview-27383

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“So here’s the thing—it’s so terrible what’s happening,” Trump said. “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay?”

The president boasted about having “the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump” before threatening to unleash the fire & fury of his fan base if liberals refuse to play nice.

“I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad,” Trump said. “But the left plays it cuter and tougher.”

Some people may interpret this as inciting violence, and for good reason. A couple of his supporters have already been busted for mailing bombs to Democrats and planning massive terrorist attacks from inside the US Coast Guard....

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:55 PM

17. I actually wonder if it was just trolling

Anything to piss people off, inflame tensions, and generate bigger headlines. Unstable racist shitbags exist everywhere. They don't need to look across the ocean for inspiration.

I definitely think the shitgibbon is making these loons bolder in expressing their vile opinions, but this manifesto reads like a giant troll. It's a little too on the nose.

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Response to happybird (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:02 PM

18. In his manifesto he also claims that he was inspired by Candace Owens, but that she is too extreme f

He is clearly doing this for the reaction

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Response to happybird (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:29 PM

22. It's a full blown trolling fest with references to 4chan imageboard culture

In a way it is. This guy was clearly lurking 4chan /pol a lot.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:18 PM

19. Never heard about how racist Australians are, have you?

Have you seen their official government policy towards immigrants?? Holy shit even Trump wouldn't get away with doing this. Believe it or not, but it's not just americans who have crazy right wingers.


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:19 PM

20. I Haven't Had The Opportunity To Watch The News Today - Is The MSM.....

addressing the fact that Trump was an inspiration to this terrorist?

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