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Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:29 AM

Basic High School Civics lesson from 1948

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Reply Basic High School Civics lesson from 1948 (Original post)
RAB910 Mar 15 OP
Wounded Bear Mar 15 #1
malaise Mar 15 #2
Canoe52 Mar 15 #3
Girard442 Mar 15 #4
JHB Mar 15 #6
malaise Mar 15 #8
RAB910 Mar 15 #9
DemocracyMouse Mar 15 #17
dalton99a Mar 15 #13
delisen Mar 15 #5
ffr Mar 15 #7
gademocrat7 Mar 15 #10
ancianita Mar 15 #11
DemocracyMouse Mar 15 #18
defacto7 Mar 15 #12
not fooled Mar 15 #14
aeromanKC Mar 15 #15
BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #16
Volaris Mar 15 #31
BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #32
Karadeniz Mar 15 #19
BadgerMom Mar 15 #20
camelfan Mar 15 #21
RAB910 Mar 15 #22
SunSeeker Mar 15 #23
dlk Mar 15 #24
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 15 #25
onecaliberal Mar 15 #26
cp Mar 15 #27
sandensea Mar 15 #28
gristy Mar 15 #29
MrScorpio Mar 15 #30
Haggis for Breakfast Mar 15 #33
RAB910 Saturday #34
Lonestarblue Saturday #35
Haggis for Breakfast Saturday #37
Lonestarblue Saturday #38
Haggis for Breakfast Saturday #39
smirkymonkey Saturday #36

Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:30 AM

1. Is that where that came from?

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:32 AM

2. Most excellent

Get thee to the greatest page

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:41 AM

3. Most excellent find!

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

4. Amazing isn't it, that the Deplorables think they want to get back to America's Golden Age...

...but their heads would explode if someone tried to promote these ideas from 1948.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

6. TOON on pretty much that subject

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Response to JHB (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:47 AM

8. Ha

Perfect

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Response to JHB (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:10 AM

9. That is spot on

It's amazing how the evil right-wing forces have so perverted the national narrative

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Response to RAB910 (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

17. Yeah, and distracted us from today's Worldwide Global Warming strike going on RIGHT NOW

(And DU will hopefully be covering it soon......?)

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Response to JHB (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:01 PM

13. +1

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:43 AM

5. Great !

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:47 AM

7. That spells out the collective benefits

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:59 AM

10. K&R!

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:00 PM

11. 2019 conservatives would fail this class. They need to learn civics and the Fairness Doctrine.

To re-strengthen democratic institutions, this country needs to abandon fossil-driven and most other market values of Gilded Age robber barons, and return to the enlightenment values of its Founders.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

18. Thank you Ancianita! Here you are again! :-)

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:00 PM

12. Kick

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

14. Why pukes and fundies

are destroying public education.

Can't have the proles informed about all the good things government can do.


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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

15. There, I fixed it for you

Trump Murrica _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Pelosi America

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

16. My mother was in the class of 1948

at her high school here in Philly. And that perspective was all a result of FDR and Truman, coming out of the Depression and WW2.

But then Democrats controlled everything back then (and for brief periods, had super majorities during part of FDR's multiple terms). Of course during and not long after, the likes of Ayn Rand came on the scene with what amounted to Libertarian manifestos-as-novels and the John Birch Society came into existence...and so now here we are today.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:43 PM

31. Yes this. The column on the left reads like a tourists broucher for Galts Gulch.

Let's give the crazies south Florida now, so that after it floods from climate induced sea level rise, they can just rename it Rapture, City Beneath the Sea, and be done with it.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:54 PM

32. Well a dam failed in Nebraska



TEXT
Fred Knapp @fredmknapp

The former Spencer dam on Niobrara River, #Nebraska (Photo courtesy J. Angel)

3:59 PM - Mar 15, 2019



and the Cooper Nuclear Plant is preparing to shut down due to the flooding of the Missouri river from that record-breaking storm and rapid snowmelt.



TEXT
Nancy Gaarder @gaarder

Breaking news: NPPD preparing to shut down Nebraska's nuclear plant by Brownville due to rising Missouri River waters.

4:57 PM - Mar 15, 2019

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:19 PM

19. That's it in a nutshell! Thanks for finding this!❤❤❤❤

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:23 PM

20. K and R

Bookmarked.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:18 PM

21. We still provide free education...

I just don't know why we stop at high school.

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Response to camelfan (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:47 PM

22. These days a BS (or at least an Associates) is the new HS diploma

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:21 PM

23. K & R & Bookmarked

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:04 PM

24. With the Decades-Long Assault on Government (and the Facts) by the GOP...

This type of information should be included in the curriculum of every school in America.

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Response to dlk (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:22 PM

25. GOPers would demand textbooks for Reaganism and Creationism

See what they've done to aid oil companies to deny greenhouse effects.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:25 PM

26. K&R

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:41 PM

27. Why we need civics in school

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:03 PM

28. One of those columns looks EXACTLY like GOP public policy

But which one, I wonder.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:06 PM

29. Ordered on Amazon

Went on Amazon and found the 1949 edition. Delivery in 2 weeks. Very good!
Magruder (or his estate) has apparently kept it up - you can also get a 2016 edition.
I was tempted to order it too, but nah.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:16 PM

30. The left side is a Libertarian dream...

Which just goes to show that Libertarians are delusional assholes.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:00 PM

33. Do schools even teach Civics anymore ?

Anyone ?

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:21 AM

34. No

and that's how we ended up with Trump and GOP rule

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

35. Only around 17% of states require civics instruction.

And of that number, some allow US History instead. And that history has been whitewashed So as to present white people in the most positive light and as the true people who built this country, while relegating people of color to minor, unimportant roles.

As a former educator, I am dismayed by the state of our education today. The Republicans and radical Christian-right groups have so distorted standards that what children are learning is both incorrect in the case of science and history and dumbed down in many schools both by textbooks used and by lack of teacher expertise and sometimes teacher bias. So much of public education today is dependent on the area of the country youvlive in and the quality of school administrators and teachers. A recent anecdote I heard just depresses me enormously. Students in one class were sitting with their phones and ear buds on—and the teacher allowed this even though the class was being observed by an outsider!

We do still have some quality public schools, as shown by those students from Stoneman Douglas. But far too many are failing to engage students and to teach meaningful concepts. The focus on teaching to the tests to make the school look good is mistaken. Children need a well-rounded education that opens the world to them rather than just allowing them to pass a test. Charter schools are touted as giving parents a choice in better education for their children, but too often the charters have the same goal as the public schools: students who perform well on standardized tests. Or the for-profit ones have the goal of making as much money as possible and then moving on, leaving the public schools and taxpayers to clean up their problems.

One more example (and then I promise to stop 😀. Even nonprofit charters can warp education. One conservative nonprofit chain claims to teach the classics in a rigorous educational environment. Their students do well on tests, so they are judged to be successful, though most of their students are drawn from upper middle class families. Here’s the lack from my viewpoint. Their classics curriculum focuses almost entirely on the publications of dead white guys, with one or two writings by a minority or female during the entire year. What this is not so subtly saying to students is that the ideas of white people are important enough to study while the ideas of womem and minorities are not. The classics have a place, but they should not be the primary focus for contemporary literature. Is it any wonder that we have a large population of people who think that minorities are nothing more than leaches on the work and success of white people?

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #35)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 05:56 PM

37. Interestingly, you mention Marjory Stoneman Douglas Highschool.

My niece is a sophomore there. Her school is very good. She holds herself to a particular level of excellence that stuns most. She has been taking advanced courses for two years now, had a 4.0 GPA, and this year is taking college level courses in addition to her school curriculum. She wants to get into a good school and we all support her. The students at Stoneman have already had an extraordinary year. The massacre forced them all into places no child should be.

I am a dinosaur myself. When I went to school, we still had art, music and other extra-curricular choices. All very healthy to the development of young minds. But that was in the 60s. And since then, school boards have become a breeding ground for conservative domination, which is why all of the ills you mentioned are now standard deficiencies in current educational systems.

If ANYONE had tried to teach creationism or bible "facts" back then, they'd have been out by the noon lunch bell.

It must pain you that we have fallen so far. Teachers like you were my inspiration to excel and NEVER STOP LEARNING. I have four college degrees, two technical degrees and even held a medical license for a year. Although there is snow on the roof, the fire to continue my education has never slowed down. Do you think students will tolerate a septuagenarian in their midst in PhD country ?

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #37)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:57 PM

38. I too am a dinosaur!

It indeed pains me to see how so many of today’s students are being shortchanged by a poor education that not only denies life skills but also relegates the beauty of learning to the dustbin. Your ongoing thirst to continue learning says a lot about your own education and desire to maintain an active mind. A friend recently commented that even in the face of near poverty, the ability to read well and to absorb knowledge puts the treasures of the world at our fingertips. And, indeed, I have found it so.

Your neice sounds like a wonderful bright young woman who will be one of tomorrow’s leaders in whatever sphere she chooses. I place my hope for the future in young people like her and wish her all the best.

As for the PhD, go for it! Your fellow students may be happy to have a “greybeard” of whom to ask advice!

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #38)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:29 PM

39. I thank you for your kind advice to "go forward" again into Academia.

One point I don't want to get lost in this and that is you, Lonestarblue. Teachers like you are what made me who I am today. I did not have an easy childhood (divorce and an cruel, twisted step-parent), so it was my teachers who taught me that there is power in knowledge, a future to be had in seizing upon the opportunities that a good education can provide if you are willing to extend yourself to meet (and exceed) them. I can still name them all.

I don't think that teachers realize how influential they can be to young people. Even years - decades - later. I can still remember one of my first professors in college. He was an internationally-respected historian, from India, whose family had known and worked with Gandhi. He would always say, "When you go to ________ (fill in country), be sure to see ________ (holiday, event, museum, gallery, ancient ruins, etc.)." He NEVER said "IF," it was always "WHEN." I found him to be one of the most inspirational men I've ever know, and I have never forgotten Dr. Singh.

No doubt, you have students who still remember you, what you taught them, and how you prepared them for the future. Please don't ever think that you never touched a student that deeply. Somewhere out there are students of yours, who still remember you and are thankful that they had you as a teacher and mentor.

Please take a bow.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

36. K&R

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