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Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:59 AM

Why is the media silent about NZ shooter's praise of Trump as "renewed symbol of

white identity". I've had TV news on for nearly an hour and haven't heard anything about it while it is the lead on many internet sites.

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Reply Why is the media silent about NZ shooter's praise of Trump as "renewed symbol of (Original post)
Atticus Mar 15 OP
malaise Mar 15 #1
Atticus Mar 15 #3
malaise Mar 15 #5
watoos Mar 15 #9
defacto7 Mar 15 #30
triron Mar 15 #34
PeeJ52 Mar 15 #2
mrsv Mar 15 #4
watoos Mar 15 #10
2naSalit Mar 15 #22
demmiblue Mar 15 #6
world wide wally Mar 15 #7
TrogL Mar 15 #8
watoos Mar 15 #12
cyndensco Mar 15 #11
bluestarone Mar 15 #13
cab67 Mar 15 #19
bluestarone Mar 15 #20
2naSalit Mar 15 #23
bluestarone Mar 15 #25
Nevilledog Mar 15 #26
AmandaRuth Mar 15 #14
jmbar2 Mar 15 #15
Post removed Mar 15 #16
robbob Mar 15 #21
dalton99a Mar 15 #17
malaise Mar 15 #27
raccoon Saturday #39
Mike Nelson Mar 15 #18
rurallib Mar 15 #24
triron Mar 15 #35
yaesu Mar 15 #28
Igel Mar 15 #29
GusBob Mar 15 #38
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 15 #31
obnoxiousdrunk Mar 15 #32
uponit7771 Mar 15 #36
mathematic Mar 15 #33
JI7 Saturday #41
erpowers Mar 15 #37
Cha Saturday #40
GoCubsGo Saturday #42
whistler162 Saturday #43
Vinca Saturday #44

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:02 AM

1. I saw a panel on CNN discussing it n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:06 AM

3. Good. I have mostly watched MSNBC this a.m. nt

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Response to Atticus (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:08 AM

5. Couldn't watch M$NBC this morning

BBC and CNN

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:17 AM

9. You didn't miss anything,

I watched it while I was riding my bike. They were talking about Democrats hating Jews.

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Response to watoos (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:58 AM

30. I don't listen to cable, I don't even have a tv in the house.

But I'm visiting my sister and she does. I watched MSNBC last evening and they were putting up the tRump comments all over the place and pushing the attack moment to moment. Question: is there a difference between MSNBC in the morning compared to the evening? I'm not used to cable news.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

34. Seems like a big difference to me. Morning hosts must be republicans.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:05 AM

2. They don't want people searching for the manifesto and video.

They want to kill it and keep it secret to protect tRump. tRump will do something today to distract. This is too much attention, especially after his call to arms yesterday because this was very, very, bad.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:08 AM

4. Why?Why?Why?

Why are we constantly asking why the media never does this when it comes to trump/GOP or that when it comes to Dems? My answer: Who owns our media?

Go from there...

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Response to mrsv (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:19 AM

10. You got it,

the M$M is not our friend. The biggest lie out there is that msnbc is liberal.

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Response to mrsv (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:52 AM

22. Rupert Murdock...nt

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:22 AM

6. I think it will eventually be discussed (though probably not enough).

Dollars to doughnuts, Nicolle Wallace will discuss it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:23 AM

7. They are getting to be a little too obvious about covering for Trump.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:09 AM

8. It was on Sirius XM POTUS news

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Response to TrogL (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:21 AM

12. Ah, there you go,

there are FM stations that are really progressive. Sometimes I just go for a ride to listen to the truth.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:20 AM

11. CBS This Morning mentioned it.

They even had a graphic.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:26 AM

13. The wife mentioned they showed a picture of the gun used and it was BLURRED out?

I'm wondering if tRUMPS name was on the weapon? I'm betting it WAS and the MSM is protection this asshole!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:07 AM

19. Possibly

More likely, it was an ethnic slur or a word you canít say on television.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:10 AM

20. Well they did mention there were NAMES of famous (that they consider famous) people

On the weapon! Just saying.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:53 AM

23. Fucker45 probably autographed it...

along with other Nazis.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

25. YEA no shit!!

My thoughts too

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

26. If he'll autograph bibles, he'll autograph anything.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:32 AM

14. guilt

shame, complicity

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

15. They don't want to glorify the killer or his message

I read several pleas right after it happened asking people not to search for it online, mention the killer's name or reasons. They don't want copycats. Deprive them of the attention they seek.

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Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:16 AM

21. Can't watch...

Started to, made it to the first shootings and had to turn it off. Horrific.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:56 AM

17. They should replay Trump's favorite bedtime story:



(An event that never happened)


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:56 AM

27. Yep

I never forgot that made up shit - he's a fucking fascist

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:13 AM

39. Thanks for posting. I wasn't familiar with that.

It makes me despair for the United States even more than I did before.

That little speech would have done In a shit hole country dictator proud.

Before the Internet, and also before Trump I never realized there are so many assholes in the world.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:57 AM

18. I guess they are...

Ö afraid FOX will accuse them of making the story "political"?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:54 AM

24. Stephanie Miller on Free Speech TV brought it up often

but sadly she is considered fringe in this country.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:31 PM

35. She isn't afraid to tell it like it is.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:56 AM

28. I have been monitoring the NZ twitter feed & there are a bunch of brand new, no follower accounts

posting on behalf of the NRA & tRump, looks like the russians are practicing up for 2020. By the way, by a bunch I mean like about every other post.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:57 AM

29. Because they read more in his long manifesto than we did.

Question: Was he a Trump supporter?

Answer was mixed: As a symbol of white identity, yes. But his policies? "God, no."

Moreover, there wasn't a suggestion that Trump mattered much to him, or was any kind of motivation. Much less was core, since in 27 pages there was one mention of him, both "yes, as a symbol" but in the next few words a very strong objection to his policies. It was even posed as a sort of denial that Trump was all that important. "Hey, what you did--it's because of Trump, right?" And then a 10-15 word blip that acknowledged but externalized Trump.

Apparently the guy went to NZ to plan the attack. The motivation came from Australian politics; look there, first, if you want understanding and knowledge. There's a strong undercurrent of immigration issues and white identity lurking in Australian politics, what with Aboriginal rights issues, Asian East and SE Asian immigration and concerns over Chinese influence in Australian politics, and a lot of concern in some political circles over Muslim immigration, legal and illegal, from various places that have Islamic insurgencies. Like Afghanistan. the Australians even have a kind of internment camp, mostly for Muslims, in Nauru that's a big domestic issue and predates Trump by a ways. While the guy was in NZ, something motivated him to stage the attack in NZ--perhaps the heightened issues with Chinese campaign meddling, perhaps something dealing with immigration or even Maori rights and power dynamics in NZ politics and society, maybe he just thought it was easier to conduct it in NZ. So look there, second, and then flip one and two if you feel like it or think there's evidence for it. Instead of looking for 5 words in a 27-page document and discarding the rest as an irrelevancy because it doesn't apply to us, because, well, obviously everybody's politics everywhere is really about us.

The news media in the US are often self-absorbed. Internet sites tend to wallow in self-absorbed sensationalism. If you focus on Trump as the cause (tm) of this you'll overlook what's really important in two other rather different countries in order to score cheap sensationalist points. Now, there are parallels, but that's all they are, parallels, and only analogous to the extent that the analogies hold.

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Response to Igel (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:14 PM

38. Good post

5 words in a long all over the place insane dialogue
Not much to go by.

The manifesto taken as whole is some sort of attention seeking troll

If he is gonna press buttons and yank your chain he has to put Trump in there

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:02 PM

31. They aren't, that I've seen.

MSNBC and CNN have discussed it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

32. It was discussed

on my TV.

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Response to obnoxiousdrunk (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

36. I'v'e ONLY heard of CNN discussing it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

33. His manifesto reads like a 'bernie bro' that is racist

(By that I don't mean sanders supporters in general but a specific type of sanders supporter from the last dem primary).

Go ahead and read it. It's got way more dedicated to how bad capitalism is than that one line on Trump.

The guy is a national socialist. It's pretty shortsighted to focus only on the "national" part of that.

He mentions a lot of things that may sound familiar too. Like the tactic of voting for radical candidates even over incrementalist candidates that are more aligned with your policy goals.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:40 AM

41. it's the meeting of the so called far left and far right . they are very similar.

and yes, they both hate big business, immigrants, feminists etc.

the ones who for years claimed to be the most liberal on DU and spewed hate at Obama and other democrats ended up supporting Trump.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:00 PM

37. CBS This Morning

CBS This Morning discussed the link between Donald Trump and the shooter. At least one of the anchors read parts of the shooter's manifesto. Also, I read in another post that CNN was pointing out the link between Trump and the shooter.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:32 AM

40. Because blood is on their hands, too.

they own a chunk o trump just like the Russians, stein's Lies, comey, etc etc.

They normalized the shit out of him and now they're still normalizing him, right?

media****** are manipulators and manufacturers of "news".. nothing more.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:44 AM

42. They brought it up on the Saturday morning "Today Show."

I didn't watch any of the network evening news casts to speak for those.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:07 AM

43. Because you are watching FOX?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:09 AM

44. I haven't heard much about it either. The media, as a whole, seems to be focusing on the Democratic

candidates. They're obsessed with whether they're qualified. Meanwhile, back at the White House . . .

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