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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:39 PM

Malcolm Nance...90% are over 70


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Reply Malcolm Nance...90% are over 70 (Original post)
pbmus Mar 14 OP
atreides1 Mar 14 #1
TeamPooka Mar 14 #11
friend of m and j Mar 14 #33
TeamPooka Mar 14 #42
zipplewrath Mar 15 #51
Hekate Mar 15 #61
zipplewrath Mar 15 #62
Haggis for Breakfast Mar 14 #44
FM123 Mar 15 #52
Power 2 the People Mar 15 #59
Rainngirl Mar 14 #2
Hekate Mar 14 #8
elleng Mar 14 #9
Hekate Mar 14 #12
2naSalit Mar 14 #36
oldsoftie Mar 14 #3
pdsimdars Mar 14 #4
superpatriotman Mar 14 #5
Hekate Mar 14 #6
world wide wally Mar 14 #7
maddiemom Mar 14 #20
debsy Mar 14 #10
Ilsa Mar 14 #13
Blue_true Mar 14 #31
ffr Mar 14 #14
Maru Kitteh Mar 14 #39
BamaRefugee Mar 14 #15
Nay Mar 14 #17
Blue_true Mar 14 #35
BamaRefugee Mar 14 #40
Blue_true Mar 14 #43
BBG Mar 15 #60
BamaRefugee Mar 15 #63
BamaRefugee Mar 14 #41
mucifer Mar 14 #28
Blue_true Mar 14 #37
radical noodle Mar 15 #45
Blue_true Mar 14 #34
certainot Mar 14 #16
First Speaker Mar 14 #18
calimary Mar 15 #49
FakeNoose Mar 15 #56
USALiberal Mar 14 #19
Blue_true Mar 14 #32
Honeycombe8 Mar 14 #21
mahatmakanejeeves Mar 14 #22
No Vested Interest Mar 14 #23
maxsolomon Mar 14 #26
JI7 Mar 14 #27
Tactical Peek Mar 15 #48
Canoe52 Mar 14 #24
AmandaRuth Mar 14 #25
mucifer Mar 14 #29
Blue_true Mar 14 #38
Blue_true Mar 14 #30
czarjak Mar 15 #47
onetexan Mar 15 #58
Blue_true Mar 15 #64
Cha Mar 15 #46
ecstatic Mar 15 #50
dewsgirl Mar 15 #53
lark Mar 15 #54
Stellar Mar 15 #55
brewens Mar 15 #57
fescuerescue Mar 15 #65

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:15 PM

1. I wouldn't be so sure about the military or law enforcement!

I think that there are numbers in both groups that would support a Trump declaration of martial law...and would even follow unlawful orders!!!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:01 PM

11. The Oathkeepers would follow martial law

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:05 PM

33. Their oath is to

uphold and defend the Constitution, not the President.

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Response to friend of m and j (Reply #33)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:56 PM

42. wtf are you talking about? Oath Keepers is an anti-government American far-right organization

associated with the patriot and militia movements.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:12 AM

51. And the "sovereign citizen" bunch as well?

Arent' the also associated with the whole "sovereign citizen" crowd as well? They don't like federal over reach much.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #51)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:06 PM

61. They define "government overreach" as paying taxes, integration, & anything else that interferes...

...with them personally.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #61)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:09 PM

62. Like the feds declaring Martial Law

They don't even recognize the feds power to enforce federal law.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:30 PM

44. I think that Malcolm Nance has more of an inside track that ANYBODY

here on DU. He's been in counter-intel for over 30 years, and when he speaks, he has yet been proven wrong on ANYTHING.

Being retired from the military, myself, I agree when he says that military people are NOT going to follow unlawful orders, least of all from a diseased, maggot-infested megalomaniac moron like trmp. I have more faith in my brother and sisters in uniform than that.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:14 AM

52. atreides1, I am afraid you are right that there are some in law enforcement that might go with trump

When pence was here in FL a few months ago, one of the SWAT police officers that was photographed with him was openly wearing a QAnon patch on his police uniform, these crazies are everywhere. Even in uniform.
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/broward-south-florida-cop-wore-qanon-patch-with-mike-pence-10938571

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

59. +1

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:36 PM

2. What kind of vile so-called president

makes threats like this??? God, he's an asshole!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Rainngirl (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:53 PM

8. Trump likes violence the way "Justice" Kavanaugh likes beer. He's told us so right from the start...

Right from the start of his career, I mean, not just his candidacy. It's no secret. He eggs people on whenever he can.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:57 PM

9. He likes violence as long as it doesn't touch him physically, imo.

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Response to elleng (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:02 PM

12. As long as he's the aggressor, you bet. We already know he assaults women.nt

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Response to Rainngirl (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:25 PM

36. He wants so badly to be like pooteen...nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:41 PM

3. Malcom must not be around may areas with biker populations.

But being a biker doesnt mean you're a trump supporter either.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:45 PM

4. What else can we expect from Nance other than down to earth fact based practical thinking

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:46 PM

5. Nance 2020!

Iím going to keep saying it until it happens

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:50 PM

6. Thank you, Mr. Nance

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:53 PM

7. Cold,hard facts "Mr Present"

Your gang isn't as tough as they looked in "Beach Blanket Bingo"

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:47 PM

20. Eric is probably named after Eric Von Zipper.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:58 PM

10. He is correct, most of douchebag's followers are either over 70...

... or inbred (perhaps there is some of that in douche's own past?) Regarding the military, I have a contact in the military who advised that the chance of many/most following an unlawful directive from the idiot in chief is slim to nil. Police, I'm sure there are some who would follow but have to believe that most appreciate the rule of law over douchebag. As far as the dumpster supporter bikers are concerned, they are all stupid and I'm sure have a lot of guns which makes me very worried. Plus, douchebag, himself, could have his minions inflict a lot of damage before someone not allegiant to him could put a stop to it but i do believe, ultimately, that someone would exist.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:16 PM

13. Great tweets replying to Malcolm:


?s=19

Phaedrus Blue@PhaedrusB

Indeed. And from what I've seen of the remaining 10%, 90% of those guys weigh in at over 270. They aren't scaring anybody except managers of "all you can eat" restairants.

12:35 PM - Mar 14, 2019


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David S Crane@dscranester

Aging bikers soon to be exchanging their hogs for walkers. ďIíve got the support of Walkers for TrumpĒ just doesnít have the same ring to it.

12:53 PM - Mar 14, 2019


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Response to Ilsa (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:47 PM

31. I don't know. They could gum people to death in the right circumstances. nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:22 PM

14. I know a few bikers and they're only on board with ramming a flag up his ass.

None of them like him. So I don't know who he's talking about on that last point of his.

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Response to ffr (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:38 PM

39. Because a few Harley Davidson folks showed up at his White House for a photo-op, he thinks

all bikers love him.



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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:25 PM

15. majority of cops and military would have orgasms if martial law declared

Imagine Kent State on steroids

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:38 PM

17. Yep. Don't ever think there would be very many cops or military who'd hate martial law. Cops

have been into killing black people and not being thrown in jail, so nobody should think THEIR ass is gonna be OK just because they're white. Or Asian. Or mixed. Or anything.

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Response to Nay (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

35. Half the country will defy martial law. If cops and military attempt to back Trump, they make

themselves targets. Even republicans like Mitch McConnell understand that. What happens is you have violent people in society being in a position where they can start firing on cops and the military instead of being expected to surrender, total civil war, no smart person wants that. For one thing, in a civil war, cops will be busy trying to protect their families, there won't be situations where 100 cops can gather to arrest 20 violent people because in many neighborhoods close 100% of the people will be firing on any cop that raised his or her head, that is what makes Trump's declaration so insane and why it would be insane for anyone to follow an illegal order that he gives.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:16 PM

40. There will be no need for 100 cops, when an Apache helicopter YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE below the horizon..

...can take out ONE Liberal sitting on his toilet reading the Sunday funny papers, right thru the open window with a guided missile, let alone a couple of hundred gathered in a town square somewhere.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:22 PM

43. This is the issue for the facists and for your assumption.

You and they assume that ONLY them will have access to advanced weapons. In modern times, things don't happen like that. Both sides will have advanced weapons and one side is much better at science and innovation than the other side. I don't want to see a civil war happen, but if I had to guess which side would win one, it would be the liberals. Yes, the right, with all their guns will have an initial advantage, but that will rapidly fade as the greater innovation of the other side starts to take it's toll on the right.

Honestly, I would prefer to see the country divide up into two countries instead of fight another civil war, the right would have a country where they can do any regressive thing that they want and liberals would have the other country. Adults would get a chance to decide which country to move to to live and minor kids will follow adults with a chance to change countries once after they become an adult, up until age 30.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #40)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:57 PM

60. That does it

No more open window venting the Ďlibraryí while Iím reading the Sunday funny papers. Iím sure the wife will understand.

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Response to BBG (Reply #60)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:14 PM

63. Don't forget to have the undocumented laborer install the missile proof glass!!!

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Response to Nay (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:24 PM

41. Blowing away humans, the greatest big game trophies of them all. They'll love it.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:38 PM

28. I don't think the generals will follow him.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:26 PM

37. Honestly, NO ONE that thinks for 15 seconds would follow him.

An illegal order or orders from him and cops and the military trying to enforce it or them opens up a Pandora's box that brings forth pure horrors for everyone.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 AM

45. No, I don't either

I'm sure he hasn't endeared himself to them by never following advice and thinking he's smarter than they are.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:15 PM

34. Policing and the military only survive when the majority of people follow the rule of law.

Trump is alluding to sedition, where he violated laws and expect the military and police to back him up, if that DOES happen, then the military and police no longer have the rule of law as a shield, the smart members of each of those groups understand what will happen in such a situation, anarchy.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:29 PM

16. most of his support will drop off fast when mueller finds out his supporter-in-chief

- known as limbaugh - has been on the payroll and has cyprus bank accounts

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:41 PM

18. My God...did he really say this...?

...if so--this is the most incendiary, outright seditionist statement ever made by a President of the United States. This alone is worthy of impeachment. Get this piece of shit the fuck out of the White House!

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:17 AM

49. You'd think so, 'eh? They'd have impeached a Democrat a long time ago

and for FAR FAR less.



Oh wait ... they already did.

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:52 AM

56. He tweeted it and it went out to all his zombie Twitter "followers"

Chump had been more guarded and subtle until this week, and now he's full-on recruiting the crazies to start a civil war to save his butt.

It's scary to contemplate, but I agree with Malcolm Nance that it would never actually come to that. The military would not follow Chump, they hate his guts. I don't believe the municipal police forces of this country would either, most of our cities are solid blue even though some of the cops themselves may have voted for Chump. It's no secret that our intelligence services (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.) have had it up to here with Chump and they certainly wouldn't go along with this type of instigation.

If all Chump has to rely on are the backwoods gun-toters and Harley humpers, he'd go down before his civil war ever got started. This is just more proof of how nuts he really is.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:42 PM

19. I would believe a majority of Cops and Military 100% back Trump! nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:53 PM

32. Maybe 60% of each group does 100%, especially cops.

The military has a lot of minorities, so it's support is likely weaker. Firefighters and EMTs are another group that majority support Trump.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:52 PM

21. My brother is a former biker.

A local group. I think Hell's Angels let his group ride with them once, so he likes to say that he rode with the Hell's Angels, w/o clarifying.

Anyhoo...my brother HATES Trump. And is 67 and in no shape to fight anyone, even if he wanted to. Bad knee, arthritis, diabetes. Although he can shoot pretty well and likes guns, but he's not about to go to war over any politician, much less a Trump.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:06 PM

22. I gather he's speaking hyperbolically, as 90% of bikers are not over 70. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:16 PM

23. Are 90% over 50? Do 30's and 40's think bikes are cool?

Do 30's and 40's have the cash and time for bikes?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:26 PM

26. "Bikers for Trump". It's an organization.

I don't know the ages of that organization. Nance might.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:35 PM

27. the ones that support Trump are.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:36 AM

48. Trump's old farts.


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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:55 PM

24. Wouldn't tRumps statement here be considered treason?

Heís saying heís going to attack US citizens because he disagrees with them, or because they wonít pass legislation he wants passed.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:58 PM

25. its the other 10% I worry about

someone is going to get hurt or much worse

also, on edit: above thread there was a comment that we should not worry about the remaining 10% because they are 270+ pds.

I am a 125 pd female, and a 270 pd angry man coming at me can cause some damage. That comment had to come from a man living in a mostly blue area

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Response to AmandaRuth (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:41 PM

29. Agreed. These men have automatic weapons, too. Not just attacking us 125 lb women

(hey we are the same wt). Automatic military grade weapons don't care how strong you are or what sex.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:33 PM

38. The issue for them is this.

If chaos breaks out, EVERYONE will have military caliber weapons and some will even have hitech poisons. Trump needs to calm down, if he doesn't, his avid supporters need to think twice about what supporting illegal orders from him will mean.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:45 PM

30. Trump is dangerous.

He said that he is ok with Americans killing eachother if that keeps him in office. What American president has ever said that?

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 AM

47. He's in a class by himself.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

58. the guy is a psychopathic narcissist

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Response to onetexan (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:47 PM

64. I believe that. A Napoleon without brains. nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 AM

46. ".. very bad very bad.." Fucking

Blowhard slug.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:07 AM

50. "Neither will most cops.."

I usually take great comfort in Nance's cool headed analysis, but I'm not so sure about this one. I think white nationalists have systematically infiltrated most police departments.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:26 AM

53. I'm not supposed to comment on this, my son is in the Air Force.

I can attest to the fact much of the military is not just going to follow him blindly. That ended when he fired Mattis.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:23 AM

54. Don't buy it, not one bit.

The military is trained and totally conditioned to follow orders, drumpf, illegally or not, is their CIC as they see it and they will follow orders. Just like Germans'y Wehrmacht did with Hitler. Lots of them hated him and knew he was a loon, but he was their boss and this was their life so they followed orders. Our guys in uniform would do the same, no matter what some people just want to believe. They won't do it on their own to protect him, but if he orders them to kill Democrats rioting to remove him from office after he's lost the election or been convicted, they will kill us and very few will defect or refuse the orders. Cops contain a lot of white nationalist and they too, at least far too many of them, would kill us. drumpf is definitely pulling out his PUtin tools to threaten our existence if we don't follow him.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:33 AM

55. In this day and age it's hard to trust a lot of cops...

you'd think a black man would know that.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:59 AM

57. One of my best biker friends voted for Trump but said, "they didn't give us much choice".

I've heard that a lot from Trump voters. It's good in a way they are making that excuse rather than telling me how proud they are of their choice, and how great Trump is doing. Kind unintentionally giving away that they know it's not looking good now.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:56 PM

65. Civil War doesn't happen the way people think it does

Common people don't say "OMG! ARG! IM GONNA GO FIGHT FOR President XYZ".

No. they follow someone someone they already trust deeply, who follows someone they trust, who follows someone they trust all the way up to the legitimate government leadership OR the proposed new leader.

That's how the fault lines are formed.

Then if those fault lines are triggered and the country fractures, it also fractures the existing military and police and other support institutions. Then its military div vs military div, police vs police and civilians vs civilains vs everyone.

CiviL war is UNPREDICTABLE. If it was predictable it would happen alot more often (all over the world)

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