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Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:20 AM

Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world.

https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-internet-20190304-story.html

Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world. Is that even possible?
By Sabra Ayres
Mar 04, 2019 | 5:00 AM | Moscow

Russian lawmakers want to tighten the screws on Russia’s internet access by creating an “sovereign” network that the Kremlin could shut off from the greater World Wide Web.

Proponents of a bill now working its way through the Russian parliament say passing the measure will protect the country’s internet from foreign cyberattacks or other threats.

But international human rights groups and opponents say the law is an attempt to create a firewall around Russia’s internet and restrict information flow. The law’s introduction has drawn comparisons to China’s restrictive Great Firewall. ...

Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2014 claimed the internet was created as a CIA project. (It was actually created by researchers at the U.S. Department of Defense.) It was the first time Putin hinted at the idea of building a purely Russian-run system to counter what the Kremlin sees as the West’s dominance in the cyber world.



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Reply Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world. (Original post)
dalton99a Mar 5 OP
Dem2 Mar 5 #1
NYC Liberal Mar 5 #8
PJMcK Mar 5 #2
California_Republic Wednesday #23
JoeOtterbein Mar 5 #3
yonder Mar 5 #4
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 5 #5
Maru Kitteh Mar 5 #19
Wellstone ruled Mar 5 #6
JI7 Mar 5 #7
Girard442 Mar 5 #9
Maru Kitteh Mar 5 #20
Drunken Irishman Wednesday #28
Brother Buzz Mar 5 #10
DFW Mar 5 #11
BigmanPigman Mar 5 #12
DFW Mar 5 #15
BigmanPigman Mar 5 #21
DFW Mar 5 #22
Initech Mar 5 #13
OnDoutside Mar 5 #14
hunter Mar 5 #16
LiberalFighter Mar 5 #17
MineralMan Mar 5 #18
Demonaut Wednesday #24
ck4829 Wednesday #25
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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:22 AM

1. Seems like that would promote a popular idea of blocking them from accessing the USA

Seems like a dumb idea for them, but what do I know...

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:50 AM

8. I mean, obviously the Russian military/spies would have access to the regular Internet.

This is to cut off the average citizen.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:24 AM

2. Sounds like an authoritarian move, doesn't it?

Could Trump do the same thing if he declares a national emergency over something?

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:32 AM

23. They know all the other countries are about to screw with their

Internet like they screwed with us

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:25 AM

3. Oh Sure!

So the next time they steal our elections, they will say they are on a “sovereign” network!

Hahahahhahahaahhahahah!

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:30 AM

4. Maybe they want to protect their internet by isolating it from the rest of the world

because they have developed some sort of insidious, self-replicating super virus that they are planning to use in a coordinated attack on the rest of the world??

Naaw, I say to myself as I take my tin foil hat back off.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:36 AM

5. How are they going to troll everyone then?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:26 PM

19. Troll farms wouldn't shut down, hell they may be even more attractive places to work

Since trolls would get to work on the "real" internet while the general public can only see the Russian one.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

6. Putin wants his Russia Back.

Good old days of Stalinism. Notice this trend since 2009 .

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:44 AM

7. he wants to cut the people of Russia off from the rest of the world

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

9. Vlad's been smoking the same stuff Trump has.

Such a move would turn Russia into a forgotten stagnant backwater.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:29 PM

20. Like China?

I'm betting he sees China's success and thinks he'd like to do a bit of what they're doing.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:17 AM

28. lol but Russia already is a stagnant backwater...

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:24 AM

10. The Russian mafia will bootleg it...

and Putin will get his healthy cut.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:39 AM

11. This is a tactic Putin is most familiar with

He served in the KGB in the former East Germany. East Germany permitted day visitors to East Berlin (after an hour's wait, occasional interrogations and a forced exchange of West German money for their worthless East German marks).

Before you could enter their territory, you had to surrender any newspapers or magazines you had on you in ANY language. The East Germans couldn't stop western radio or TV, as there were antennae in West Berlin, but there weren't any video recorders available to the East German public in those days, and no one could have anything they could read again at home or pass around. At restaurants and cafés in East Berlin, it was illegal for more than four people to congregate together at one table. Not only did they make sure people had nothing to read from the west, if they heard anything, they were not allowed to discuss it in public.

This is classic Soviet strategy, just adjusted for today's technology.

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Response to DFW (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:26 AM

12. Yep. I am surprised he didn't do this long ago.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:55 AM

15. It's probably not an easy thing to achieve technically

Obviously he wants SOME access for SOME people, as his country is not an isolated entity economically or diplomatically, and his trouble-makers planted around the western world need secure communications with Savushinska Street, or wherever he's coordinating his mischief from these days. Selective access will necessarily be more complicated to program than a total cutoff from the rest of the world, and an accidental cutoff from world oil markets for (e.g.) Gazprom would be catastrophic for his economy. Picking and choosing whom to cut off in a country as vastly spread out s Russia won't be an easy thing to accomplish.

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Response to DFW (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:39 PM

21. Putin is eveil enough to figure out a way.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:47 PM

22. He is evil enough to ask for a feasibility study

If it can be done, I'm sure he will get it done. How possible it is, I wouldn't have the slightest ides. My brother might, but if he did, he probably wouldn't be allowed to tell me, so I'd get nowhere asking him!

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:28 AM

13. Great, can they get out of our internet and stay out?

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:19 AM

14. Seems like he is scared shitless as to retribution under a Democratic US President.And he should be.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:28 AM

16. China already does this.

But their wall leaks like a sieve.

That may be a feature, not a bug. For an authoritarian state watching the leaks is interesting.

U.S. intelligence agencies attempt to watch everything. Finding interesting data in mounds of bullshit is not a trivial problem, no matter how many supercomputers you throw at it.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 AM

17. I hope he does do it.

Provided Kremlin doesn't have access to the internet outside of Russia either.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:50 AM

18. Just another form of isolationism.

It won't work. Russia is not self-sufficient. Data needs to come and go, because of that.

This is not a practical possibility in today's world.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:54 AM

24. too late

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:54 AM

25. Disturbing

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:31 AM

26. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:38 AM

27. Like China.

But Chinese can still use a VPN to get out to the rest of the world if they want to.
And they have to communicate too do business with other countries.
I have a friend in China who I'm able to keep in touch with on Facebook through her VPN.

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