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?1551067415In a 1995 essay, Barr expressed the extremist Christian view that American government should not be secular; secularism is an abomination in Barrs theocratic mind despite the law of the land is unmistakably secular. Furthermore, Barr contends Americas government is supposed to be imposing a transcendent moral order with objective standards of right and wrong that flows from Gods eternal law; eternal law best dictated by the Vatican and taught in public schools at taxpayers expense.
It is true that as attorney general William Barr will defend Trumps criminality and corruption; it is one of the only reasons Trump nominated him. However, the real danger to the nation is Barrs belief that the governments primary function should be defending and enforcing his gods moral edicts while ardently opposing any legislative branch effort to make secular laws according to the secular Constitution.
As noted by Michael Stone a couple of weeks ago, in addition to the racism and misogyny one expects from a radical conservative Christian, Barr is also a bigot when it comes to non-religious people and others who respect the separation of church and state.
Barr epitomizes the typical extremist religious fanatic by blaming everything from crime to divorce to sexually transmitted diseases on what he alleges is the federal governments non-stop attacks on traditional religious values. In fact, he joins no small number of Republican evangelical extremists who demand that taxpayers fund religious instruction, specifically Catholic religious instruction, in public schools. Barr, as a matter of fact, has called for the United States government to subsidize Catholic education and categorically called for federal legislation to promote Vatican edicts to restrain sexual immorality; an explicit reference to his religions ban on homosexuality, extramarital sex, and artificial birth control.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/25/1837456/-Trump-s-attorney-general-wants-god-s-moral-order-enforced-by-government?detail=emaildkre
This is a damn scary article. Anyone who thought this guy might work out ok is in for a shock.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)bluestarone
(16,906 posts)This why the religious rt feel it's ok to kill an abortion DR'S. In The name of the LORD!
DontBooVote
(901 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Why does it never occur to those assholes that ethical morality can be taught within a secular context? Hey, I'm a Buddhist. I don't believe in a creator God. Yet I recognize that ethical morality is the foundation for living a happy life. I have been taught unwholesome actions are
No killing, stealing, lying, sexual misconduct, harsh speech, divisive speech, idle chatter, ill-will, envy, ill-will, and wrong views. I don't need a God to realize this. I just have to contemplate this teaching and use my brain.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...and since by definition secularism doesn't do that, it is inherently immoral.
It's that simple and that simplistic.
They think that without the threat of punishment by a vengeful and jealous God, we would all be justified to merrily kill, steal, lie, commit sexual behavior, speak divisively, harshly, envy, hold grudges, and ill-will, and be bigoted and racist.
Oh wait, that's what they do all the time! Pretty ironic.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)
https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/religion/overview/persecution/
Strict uniformity of religious worship among the people was a vital political priority during the 17th century. Those who did not support the Church were seen by monarchs and their advisers as a threat to the state and the social order.
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Enforcement of these laws unleashed a period of violent religious disturbance and hatred across England, Scotland and Wales.
Under the Test and Corporation Acts, holders of public office - including peers and MPs - schoolmasters, clergy, students of Oxford and Cambridge, members of local corporations and others, all had to swear an oath upholding the position of the King as head of the Church of England.
Those who did not risked losing most of their civil rights. Attending Catholic worship or nonconformist religious meetings was declared illegal and punishable by fine or imprisonment.
magicarpet
(14,144 posts)How many belong to Opus Dei,
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If confirmed, Judge Brett Kavanaughthe second of President Trumps nominations while in officewould become the fifth Catholic (and the 14th in U.S. history) serving on the Supreme Court.
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https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/07/18/why-do-catholics-make-majority-supreme-court
Jim__
(14,074 posts)Cognitive dissonance?
ZZenith
(4,119 posts)It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man.
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
It is a want of feeling to talk of priests and bells while so many infants are perishing in the hospitals, and aged and infirm poor in the streets, from the want of necessaries.
Every national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike. Each of those churches show certain books, which they call revelation, or the word of God. The Jews say, that their word of God was given by God to Moses, face to face; the Christians say, that their word of God came by divine inspiration: and the Turks say, that their word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from Heaven. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
The age of ignorance commenced with the Christian system.
The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries, that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.
- Thomas Paine
Allowing rights and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it were by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.
- George Washington
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
- Thomas Jefferson
Thank you. Will memorize and use this argument. Never seen them put together before.
ZZenith
(4,119 posts)Modern American conservatives are clueless about the origins of their own country and are relying on us to inform them.
trev
(1,480 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)start saying "praise be" and "under his eye"
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)current occupant of the Oval Office out then.
UTUSN
(70,680 posts)Grasswire2
(13,566 posts)Aghhhhhhh....
Duppers
(28,118 posts)It opposes the Constitution of the United States. If he took any actions that enforced this unconstitutional stance, he could be impeached by Congress.
Wiki..
The problem is getting enough rethugs to vote him out. They are hell-bent in turning this country into a theocracy!