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Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:06 AM

Could Ivanka really be this out of touch?

Ivanka Trump challenges Ocasio-Cortez platform, says Americans don't want 'guaranteed minimum'

Ivanka Trump, President Trump’s daughter and a White House senior adviser, lauded her father’s economy and said the majority of Americans ideologically believe differently than Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., in an interview with Fox News host Steve Hilton.


“You’ve got people who will see that offer from the Democrats, from the progressive Democrats, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘Here’s the Green New Deal, here’s the guarantee of a job,’ and think, ‘yeah, that’s what I want, it’s that simple.’ What do you say to those people?” Hilton asked Ivanka Trump in the interview set to air in full on Sunday.


“I don’t think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. I’ve spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last 4 years. People want to work for what they get,” Trump told Hilton. “So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want. They want the ability to be able to secure a job. They want the ability to live in a country where’s there’s the potential for upward mobility.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ivanka-trump-challenges-ocasio-cortez-platform-says-americans-dont-want-guaranteed-minimum


Sorry about the source, but its the only place I saw this report.

How does someone who has lived an affluent life where everything has been given to her think that she can speak for low income workers?

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Reply Could Ivanka really be this out of touch? (Original post)
Arkansas Granny Feb 2019 OP
rampartc Feb 2019 #1
Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #16
no_hypocrisy Feb 2019 #2
dem4decades Feb 2019 #3
Hekate Feb 2019 #4
Arkansas Granny Feb 2019 #6
Hekate Feb 2019 #8
Tanuki Feb 2019 #22
ck4829 Feb 2019 #5
Vinca Feb 2019 #7
lastlib Feb 2019 #59
JHB Feb 2019 #9
IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2019 #43
Ohiogal Feb 2019 #51
Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #10
cyclonefence Feb 2019 #11
duforsure Feb 2019 #12
tymorial Feb 2019 #13
flor-de-jasmim Feb 2019 #14
Bettie Feb 2019 #26
Arkansas Granny Feb 2019 #34
Amishman Feb 2019 #15
rickyhall Feb 2019 #17
Bettie Feb 2019 #27
Freethinker65 Feb 2019 #18
LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #19
Ilsa Feb 2019 #20
rusty quoin Feb 2019 #21
Dixc Feb 2019 #32
TNNurse Feb 2019 #23
spanone Feb 2019 #24
JI7 Feb 2019 #25
pdsimdars Feb 2019 #28
aeromanKC Feb 2019 #29
llmart Feb 2019 #42
aeromanKC Feb 2019 #53
EricMaundry Feb 2019 #30
Volaris Feb 2019 #31
thegoose Feb 2019 #33
KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #35
smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #45
smb Feb 2019 #36
world wide wally Feb 2019 #37
samnsara Feb 2019 #38
oasis Feb 2019 #39
Mrs. Ted Nancy Feb 2019 #40
Arkansas Granny Feb 2019 #44
Mrs. Ted Nancy Feb 2019 #55
muntrv Feb 2019 #41
Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #46
llmart Feb 2019 #56
Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #47
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Pepsidog Feb 2019 #50
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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:09 AM

1. those of us lucky enough to have jobs jist want a day off.

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Response to rampartc (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:59 AM

16. Ivanka Success Formula

The secret of clueless idiots like her:

Be born rich.


Everyone else? Beg for gruel.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:10 AM

2. Perfect day . . . . .

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:12 AM

3. The person who was given everything doesn't think people want to be given anything

The only thing i want the Trump's to be given is justice.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:16 AM

4. Why yes, yes she is. She is the reincarnation of Marie Antoinette, come to haunt & taunt us.

Arrogant, entitled, self-satisfied twit.

Maks me want to take up knitting just so I have something to do while the tumbrels roll by over the cobblestones...

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Response to Hekate (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:20 AM

6. I could loan you some needles and we can sit together.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:30 AM

8. That would suit me fine

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Response to Hekate (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:18 AM

22. I also thought of Marie Antoinette when I read this. Just as Marie

loved to dress up as a milkmaid to pass her idle time, it amuses Ivanka to play at being a business woman and "high ranking government official". She has no more idea about the lives and aspirations of "most Americans" than Marie understood the reality of an actual working milkmaid.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:20 AM

5. And I was unemployed for about 4 years...

I would have preferred a "guaranteed minimum" over the humiliation, dread, and the fact that I'm still playing catch-up mobility wise. Not having a "guaranteed minimum" ruined my life, but it's not something I really want apparently.

What a disgusting woman.

She's actually worse than Donald.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:24 AM

7. Living in a box under a bridge is such a positive experience . . .

Just like daddy.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:07 AM

59. Turd doesn't drop far from the asshole..... eom

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:33 AM

9. Does an orange Russian asset shit in a gold-plated toilet? nt.

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Response to JHB (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:37 AM

43. First time I seen that one...


... haha.

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Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #43)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:06 AM

51. If everyone within earshot

Didn’t fall down on the floor laughing .... hearing that come out of her mouth ....

I despair for my country....

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:40 AM

10. Best line...

… "I don't think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something."

(So, she's saying she's not American?)

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:46 AM

11. "I don't think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something."

Born on third base, thinks she hit a triple.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:51 AM

12. Coming from another trump fascist

Its all about the con, and making others believe something that's not true, and this family has been doing that for many years, especially her. She is no different from her father , and shows nothing but contempt for our Democracy. Just like her still manufacturing most of her products in sweat shops around the world. She's just another corrupt lying criminal working for enemy dictators rather than the American people, like her Dad is doing. She's said nothing about them kidnapping thousands of immigrant children to intentionally lose them and abuse these children hurting them and their parents for life, and says nothing to stop it. She's just another trump fraud.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:52 AM

13. "People want to work for what they get"

I really do love these types of statements because they perfectly illustrate the hypocrisy of the wealthy. Demanding a living wage is somehow "not working for what they get" even though the primary beneficiaries of a living wage have worked harder than Ivanka ever has in her entire life. I'm not sure how someone who was raised with servants and house staff can actually claim to understand anything about "most Americans"

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Response to tymorial (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:56 AM

14. She should first ask her own help - how much do they make/want?

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Response to flor-de-jasmim (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:23 AM

26. They'd probably be afraid to answer

I doubt they are even allowed to address her personally at all.

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Response to flor-de-jasmim (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:02 AM

34. I don't know if she speaks the foreign languages where her products are made.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:57 AM

15. She is half right, the last two sentences are very true.

We want to work, to create a career, and do great things. We want to be able to go as far as our talents will take us and to enjoy the fruits of our success.

But we also want support in case we shoot for the stars and fall on our face. We also need a stable base from which to take our ambitious leap.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:05 AM

17. She contradicts herself.

Quote ”They want the ability to live in a country where there’s the potential for upward mobility” and that is why we want the minimum raised. For minimum wage earners there is no upward mobility, only poverty.

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Response to rickyhall (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:24 AM

27. For middle class wage earners there is no upward mobility

only an eternal slide downward as prices for everything rise WAY faster than income.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:05 AM

18. They want to live in a country where there is a potential for upward mobility.

Does Ivanka believe that potential ability exists for every American citizen, or is she fine with the wealthy and connected getting more than their share?

Access to better education with legacy scholarships and financial donations if not otherwise qualified, buying experience with unpaid internships, having family and/or friends chip in millions of start up money for a business, amazingly getting patents/trademarks approved in other countries after your Daddy visits them as President??

What does Ivanka "think" about those issues? Does she even have the capacity to think?



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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:06 AM

19. What some people want is not having to work more than one job to get by. nt

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:10 AM

20. I would challenge her to live in the shoes of

a middle class woman who just got laid off and her unemployment benefits just expired. I wonder if she'd consider putting on her fancy shoes to walk seedy streets after wishing she had just enough money to pay her rent.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:11 AM

21. Fuck her.

 

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:50 AM

32. agree

As she avoids any tax responsibility, and then uses our taxes to promote herself. Disgusting voice and actions.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:19 AM

23. She is the girl in "Clueless" except

that she really has no concern for others.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:20 AM

24. says the lady born with a silver spoon in her mouth

to answer your question...YES she is actually that out of touch

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:22 AM

25. empty plastic trash

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:28 AM

28. Just like daddy dearest . . total lack of self awareness. . . . SHE not only had a guaranteed job

 

she was guaranteed to have a fortune. Bubble-head!

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:34 AM

29. Uh oh, her crimes will be made public tomorrow

Ivanka will soon be implimplicated in financial crimes as soon as Wednesday by Cohen!! Regardless she will be wearing orange after SDNY and N.Y. AG get done with her. (So how much do they make making license plates? Ivanka will be wishing for minimum wage!!)

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:31 AM

42. Dream on.

She'll never be "wearing orange". The rich rarely see any ramifications for their crimes. The orange suits and heavy penalties are dealt to the lowly, working class women who get caught stealing food to feed their children. Or immigrants. Or...well, you get my drift.

It's a fantasy of mine to see her in handcuffs and orange, but it will never happen.

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Response to llmart (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:23 AM

53. You've got a point

and of course it is more likely that she joins Daddy Cheeto fleeing to Russia to seek Asylum in an attempt to avoid the Orange. (Well, as long as I'm dreaming)

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:44 AM

30. Barbie knows

 

She has spent the last 4 years talking to people who actually work for a living.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:50 AM

31. Upward mobility is great for those who can climb.

I also want there to be a floor that isn't flooded and freezing, for those who cannot.

Besides. Only in a republican mind, is someone given cash to live, and they do Bad Things with it. This, of course, is just more projection.
RICH people do dirty things with money, poor people use it to eat.

She doesn't know this, because she's never been poor. She's not evil necessarily..but it's like asking a 12 year old to drive...could probably figure it out given enough time, but zero expierence with the thing on the front end.

I'm trying to be generous here, people. It could be I'm wrong and she's just spiteful and evil and doesn't want her taxes raised (that she's not gonna pay, anyway).

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:59 AM

33. The whole foul family is in an unreality bubble

 

They think they're gorgeous, intelligent and admired by all...

Dump is a bloated creep, the sons are out of "Deliverance" and Istanka is a thousand plastic surgeries away from reality.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:03 AM

35. It's widely known that Repug pols that travel around are kept in a bubble.....

and NEVER meet up with a diverse sample of Americans. They're scared to death of reality. Most I've read about meet with carefully selected groups of supporters arranged by local and state staff. Others are rejected and kept far away.

That's quite evident by Ivanka's standard lines of Libertarian dogma which is not representative of most American's views.

American's want to secure a living wage, not just a job. We also want basic healthcare, a loss of work safety net, support for the sick and disabled, worker protections, the best free public schools in the world, a clean environment - and we're willing to pay for those through taxes. We notice she did not mention any of those things.

In other words, shut the hell up, Ivanka.....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:51 AM

45. +1000

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:03 AM

36. She Deserves A Guaranteed Job -- In The Prison Laundry nt

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:05 AM

37. Of course people WANT to work, but they also want to be paid fairly for it.

Just because her father throws nickels around like manhole covers doesn't mean there is anything right about it.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:08 AM

38. princess is coming very close to earning the 'C' word title....

...and I dont mean 'cute'

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

39. "My daddy and hubby sold out America, but I'm okay with any

tiny bit I reap from it.....I've evolved."

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:12 AM

40. I find this video funny.

[link:|]

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Response to Mrs. Ted Nancy (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

44. That just illustrates how far out of touch she is with most American women.

It's funny, but when I was a single working mother, my "nanny" didn't take pictures of my kids and I never had the nerve to ask for a discount at the thrift shops (not boutiques) where I shopped for clothing.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #44)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:29 PM

55. Agreed

It's maddening that she is purposefully ignorant of how so many people are struggling.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:30 AM

41. We want bigger tax refunds, like before the Trump tax cut.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:53 AM

46. She inherited..NOT Earned..a huge amount of capital on the day she plopped out of her mother's womb

How exactly did she earn that? She was given a fortune and then complains about others wanting to be given something? The total hypocrisy of those who are allowed to inherit their relative's wealth. They are like royalty complaining about those lazy serfs and peasants.

But notice she never answered the question. "Here’s the Green New Deal, here’s the guarantee of a job,’ and think, ‘yeah, that’s what I want, it’s that simple.’ What do you say to those people?”

The question was NOT about being given something it was about a guaranteed JOB. A job has to be worked. Unlike this little princess who knows nothing about working a real job, most people don't get to sit on their surgically enhanced butts when they get a job. Those jobs are NOT free money like she got when she was born. Those jobs have to be worked satisfactorily and a boss of some kind has to approve of what they do. It's not the end all and be all just to be given a f*cking crappy job. You still have to work. Work, labor is a concept lazy rich white people want you to forget. Because they make their wealth off of NOT paying you for what you are worth. They want the profits from your labor. No One in a capitalistic economy is paid what they are worth.

So she successfully turned the discussion away from providing jobs to all citizens to giving away free stuff. But isn't that the implied guarantee in capitalism? We let you rich bastards keep the profits from our labor but you have to give everyone a job? True they don't pay for the true value of that labor but they should at least have enough labor to go around. But they don't and they are so much more rich for it and you are so much more poor for it.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #46)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:41 PM

56. Well, to be fair to the botoxed princess...

she has created 6,000,000,000,000,000 jobs. So cut her some slack.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:54 AM

47. Short answer is "Yes, she can be that out of touch." nt

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:59 AM

48. It's what she's implying here that truly resonates with the base.

She says that "most Americans" don't want to be "given something." That implies, of course, that some do. Trumpites truly believe that it's the mission of evil Democrats to give away white Americans' hard earned dollars to lazy people (minorities) who don't want to work. It's white privilege and overt racism in a tidy nutshell, and sums up the most Republican of mottos: "I've got mine. Fuck you."

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:02 AM

49. They want a guaranteed minimum wage, but not to be given money for nothing.

I think that's true, if that's what she's saying. The majority of Americans don't want money to be given to people who don't work for it, but they do want a minimum wage for workers.

Maybe we'll see a poll on that.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:03 AM

50. Republicans are so concerned about "giving working people something". Ivanka is a

classic example of family welfare. Unless she started her business all by herself, with no help from Daddy, then she should shut the F up.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:08 AM

52. My one wish for Princess Sparkle: RICO. n/t

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:25 AM

54. Her and Don Jr both suffer ,,,

from that Wasica Syndrome where they believe their feces is odorless.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:09 PM

57. Up is the new down.

"Downward mobility" is what she would get without that "guaranteed minimum" which, by the way, does not suggest any kind of ceiling preventing "upward mobility." Does she know the difference between a floor and a ceiling?

Ahh, the wonders of "princeling capitalism."

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 04:53 PM

58. dear mrs trump. i looked for work in my area for 10 years . no joy.

i am now in the stage of life where i cant work. i want to work, id love to work. so i enjoy retirement. medical retirement.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:24 PM

60. Yes She Could

Well, her dad claimed he could talk for low income workers and many in the media seemed to have bought his talking point. Ivanka Trump is a young woman who has never had to compete in the real world. She went from college into her dad's company. After getting into her dad's company she was able to get multiple promotions. She has never had to struggle to get a job, or provide clothes and food for herself and her children. She has never had to figure out how to pay off student debt. However, at the same she seems to be a classic example of born on third base, thinks she hit a home run. She made the quip about Americans not wanting "to be given something" without seeming to notice that she was given just about everything she has in her life.

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