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babylonsister

(170,960 posts)
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 03:20 PM Feb 2019

US-Born Marine Veteran Detained By ICE Was Carrying His US Passport When He Was Arrested

From January-still outrageous.

US-Born Marine Veteran Detained By ICE Was Carrying His US Passport When He Was Arrested

Jilmar Ramos-Gomez also was carrying a driver’s license and military ID, said the ACLU, which wants to know how he ended up in ICE custody for three days.
Hamed Aleaziz BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on January 23, 2019, at 5:37 p.m. ET


A US-born Marine veteran who served in Afghanistan had his US passport, a REAL ID driver’s license, a military ID card, and his US Marine Corps dog tags with him when he was arrested by police in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which held him for three days before his lawyer demanded his release, according to the ACLU of Michigan.

The advocacy group has called for an investigation into how the Grand Rapids Police Department handled the arrest of Jilmar Ramos-Gomez, who was born in Grand Rapids, served in Afghanistan and suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. The ACLU is also demanding that ICE explain why it took the veteran into custody and did not review his identification documents during the three days he was being held.

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/us-born-marine-ice-detained-passport?fbclid=IwAR0noV1ZPQy8fZA2DaUU7adJeSzv6_ycW88CLGxxV-l1k20mKE7CyODPOTs

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US-Born Marine Veteran Detained By ICE Was Carrying His US Passport When He Was Arrested (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2019 OP
Thank you for your service Mr. Ramos-Gomez Soxfan58 Feb 2019 #1
Kick lunasun Feb 2019 #2
Wtf onecaliberal Feb 2019 #3
I can explain this. snort Feb 2019 #4
And he started a fire in a stairwell Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #7
"suspicion of attempting to start a fire in a stairwell" KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #14
So would the right-wing wackos I was imitating (hint: the sarcasm tag) Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #24
+1. Sorry, I'm a little slow today and missed the essence. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #30
It's official snort Feb 2019 #25
And, He's brown. /nt bitterross Feb 2019 #21
Is it a police state yet? Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #5
Yes, it is for POC Johnyawl Feb 2019 #8
Wherein you get SHOT and KILLED for being a POC Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #10
For people of color Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #9
Damn, What frigging fascists! burrowowl Feb 2019 #6
W T F ? CousinIT Feb 2019 #11
I hope everyone sues the Hell out of this admin! BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #12
One more reason... 40RatRod Feb 2019 #13
A little ray of sunshine out of this incident... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #15
Kent County Sheriff Michelle LaJoye-Young. Another female that has to fix a problem in2herbs Feb 2019 #22
"effectively enacting a sanctuary-like policy" DBoon Feb 2019 #27
Good! Make the Nazis get their papers in order. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #29
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #16
WHAT is going on in this country? Someone should remind these bigots (trump included) that.... George II Feb 2019 #17
Something else Cadet Bonespurs and his cult wouldn't understand sarge43 Feb 2019 #18
A lot of racist idiots think US citizen means white IronLionZion Feb 2019 #19
from the linked article ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2019 #20
ICE needs to be abolished onetexan Feb 2019 #23
Yes snort Feb 2019 #26
word KG Feb 2019 #28
If I were a lawyer working on his case DFW Feb 2019 #31

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
7. And he started a fire in a stairwell
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019

only illegals commit crimes like that. Because he committed a crime, he must be one of them - and his documents must be fake.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
24. So would the right-wing wackos I was imitating (hint: the sarcasm tag)
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:37 PM
Feb 2019

have said, "suspicion of attempting to start a fire"? Somehow I think that distinction would escape them - as would the inappropriateness of calling people, "illegals."

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
30. +1. Sorry, I'm a little slow today and missed the essence.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 08:14 PM
Feb 2019

You're right - Faux News would say he started a fire and they would add some flourish like "endangered hospital profits and the lives of hundreds of patents and the arresting officers".

Much of our media needs to get their act together on correctly describing the legal processes of our justice system.....

snort

(2,334 posts)
25. It's official
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:38 PM
Feb 2019

With all the new information you guys have provided, I'm definitely having the vapors.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,058 posts)
10. Wherein you get SHOT and KILLED for being a POC
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

even while asleep. Or, just being in the same mall as a gunman and being a POC. The list goes on and on. This is the America we live in. It SUCKS.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
15. A little ray of sunshine out of this incident...
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019

Quote from the link:

Since the ACLU publicized the case last week, the Kent County Sheriff’s Department has announced that it will no longer detain individuals for ICE without a warrant from a judge, effectively enacting a sanctuary-like policy.

“The additional requirement of independent judicial review will increase the level of oversight of ICE detention requests in Kent County. Our justice system is built on a balance of authority and oversight.

For that reason, we advocate for the requirement that all ICE detention requests be subject to judicial review at a national level,”
Kent County Sheriff Michelle LaJoye-Young said in a statement Friday.

.........

in2herbs

(2,942 posts)
22. Kent County Sheriff Michelle LaJoye-Young. Another female that has to fix a problem
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:13 PM
Feb 2019

created by racists males.

DBoon

(22,284 posts)
27. "effectively enacting a sanctuary-like policy"
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:46 PM
Feb 2019

This is why sanctuary cities are so important. It makes ICE follow the law.

This is why the right wing hates sanctuary cities. They believe they do not need to follow the law.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,021 posts)
29. Good! Make the Nazis get their papers in order.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

Nazis should have their own papers in order before demanding to see anyone else's.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. WHAT is going on in this country? Someone should remind these bigots (trump included) that....
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 05:24 PM
Feb 2019

....the first US casualty of the first Gulf War was an immigrant from Mexico. He was given his American citizenship posthumously. Of course trump wouldn't understand what that was like, he had bone spurs.

IronLionZion

(45,253 posts)
19. A lot of racist idiots think US citizen means white
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019

That's why whites are considered US citizens even if they are actually Scottish or German citizens. Brown people can't be US citizens even if born here.

I've dealt with this my whole life as an immigrant job stealer who isn't fooling anyone with my fake birth certificate and US passport. The worst H-1bs were born in America.



If only the US had some sort of law about this issue. Oh wait...

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
20. from the linked article ...
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 06:00 PM
Feb 2019

"Ramos-Gomez was arrested by the Grand Rapids Police on Nov. 21 on suspicion of attempting to start a fire in a stairwell at a hospital and trying to reach the facility’s helipad, according to his attorneys and local law enforcement.

A police statement at the time said police contacted ICE because they believed the incident may have been a possible act of terrorism. That decision eventually led to Ramos-Gomez ending up in ICE custody.

ICE has said that Ramos-Gomez told them he was undocumented during an interview in jail and that they took action afterward.

... the Kent County Sheriff’s Department has announced that it will no longer detain individuals for ICE without a warrant from a judge, effectively enacting a sanctuary-like policy."

DFW

(54,047 posts)
31. If I were a lawyer working on his case
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 08:20 PM
Feb 2019

I would swear out complaints of false arrest, kidnapping, assault and battery, and probably a few other offenses that the ""agents" committed here. I hope the ACLU takes it up and pursues it until all charges have been tried. Criminal acts by so-called "authorities" need to be met with criminal complaints and prosecution.

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