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Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:00 PM

Does Al Franken have any kind of a chance of coming back?

I'm still fuming over the whole Al Franken thing. I think he got railroaded unjustly. Yes, the USO pics sucked, but he admitted it and profusely apologized. I'd never support Kirsten Gillibrand because of her actions. Given her candidacy for president, she used that to boost her standing nationally.

That said, I would love to see Al come back. We need him. If he'd run against Trump he'd win. He'd be better than Beto. Maybe Biden will pick him for a running mate. That'd be fantastic.

Any thoughts?

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Reply Does Al Franken have any kind of a chance of coming back? (Original post)
ificandream Feb 2019 OP
Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #1
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #2
brooklynite Feb 2019 #5
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #7
brooklynite Feb 2019 #11
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #13
brooklynite Feb 2019 #15
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #16
brooklynite Feb 2019 #19
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #20
brooklynite Feb 2019 #39
brooklynite Feb 2019 #3
hlthe2b Feb 2019 #10
Meowmee Feb 2019 #25
ificandream Feb 2019 #30
AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #4
bdamomma Feb 2019 #6
walkingman Feb 2019 #29
Calista241 Feb 2019 #8
juxtaposed Feb 2019 #9
elfin Feb 2019 #22
OnDoutside Feb 2019 #27
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #42
Hoyt Feb 2019 #12
ificandream Feb 2019 #31
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #14
IluvPitties Feb 2019 #17
andym Feb 2019 #18
ificandream Feb 2019 #32
rainy Feb 2019 #21
Meowmee Feb 2019 #23
ificandream Feb 2019 #33
Meowmee Feb 2019 #35
2naSalit Feb 2019 #24
old guy Feb 2019 #26
ooky Feb 2019 #28
ificandream Feb 2019 #34
customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #36
Sunsky Feb 2019 #37
smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #38
ificandream Feb 2019 #40
Raine Feb 2019 #41
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #43
Mr. Sparkle Feb 2019 #44

Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:03 PM

1. He doesn't want to move to VA.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:04 PM

2. If he WANTS to, I think so, yes. I'd surely welcome him...

To think that his comedic photo wherein he never even touch anyone (and public campaign photos with "supporters" who later claimed-- with NO validation== that his hand slipped in those very PUBLIC photos) are being equated to overt sexual assault and rape among our current crop of scandalous politicos is beyond infuriating to me.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:11 PM

5. The accusations against Franken were NOT being equated to sexual assault...

The question is what the threshold for unacceptable behavior is and whether you feel he crossed it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:13 PM

7. I didn't say they were THEN, but now in discussions equating to the Fairfax situation--repulsive

and YOU can NOT tell me you have not seen them. I know you hate Franken and adore Gillibrand, but that is damned bullshit.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:19 PM

11. Point to any statement I've made that "hates" Franken and "adores" Gillibrand

Franken was one of the Senators I met with and supported financially from the start. And my only comments on Gillibrand are that she doesn't deserve to be selected for special blame in asking him to step down. Fortunately, everything I've posted is searchable, so feel free to try.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:21 PM

13. your vendetta is obvious

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:22 PM

15. So is the fact that I've publicly said I'm supporting Hickenlooper in 2020

But if my vendetta is OBVIOUS it'll be easy to prove, won't it?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:30 PM

16. You show up in every single Gillibrand or Franken thread to defend G and excoriate Franken so yes

all anyone has to do is a detailed search.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:37 PM

19. Waiting to see the post showing me excoriating Franken

As for defending Gillibrand, sure. She deserves no more blame than every other Democratic Senator (except perhaps for Manchin).

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:40 PM

20. Not at all necessary. DUers have seen these threads for more than a year now.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:47 PM

39. In that case, I'll invite anyone else in this thread to show my flaws

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:09 PM

3. If he ever runs for office again, he'll have to revisit the charges...

Regardless of how you feel, it's a fact that he apologized for his behavior. That means he can't simply say that "nothing happened" in which case he'll need to have a response.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:18 PM

10. He apologized because he is an ethical person and wanted to give both the women & supporters benefit

of the doubt, assuming they might have had an honest misunderstanding. He likewise gave that benefit to fellow Democrats who basically exploited him and sacrificed him sans any honest investigation or process in order to achieve the deserved win in Alabama against the despicable R, Roy Moore.

Your continued attacks on Franken, in the hopes of building up Gillibrand against those who believe she was behind the coordinated "sacrifice", are obvious to all.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:53 PM

25. Agree nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:26 PM

30. No, he can't but ...

... at least he'd be honest about it, unlike the doofus on Pennsylvania Avenue. And I think that'd put him a step ahead of Crooked Donald. Certainly,the Rush/Sean Brigade of Liars would make him their target. But I think enough people would be happy to see him run that he'd overcome that.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:10 PM

4. Unlikely....

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:12 PM

6. I would love to

see Beto going after Cornyn's seat.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:22 PM

29. As a Texan I would also - however, Cronyn is not as hated in Texas as Cruz.

Cornyn seems to be more like for Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson - mealy mouth and pretty much votes straight party lines and keeps his mouth shit on most issues except Veterans and Jesus. Judging from most of my my neighbors they have pretty much heard mentality and will vote GOP until it becomes out of style. The word "liberal" is almost as bad a "socialist" and it is hard if not impossible to change these opinions. The key for Dems in Texas is getting out the vote. Especially Hispanics who tend to have bery lows numbers. I think a lot of that is intimidation and a culture of "not rocking the boat". Look at Mexico and you can clearly see why they have little or no faith in government.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:14 PM

8. I'd love to see him back on SNL as a first step.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:15 PM

9. His USO pics were just a comedian doing comic things. The whole USO thing was total Bullshit.

Gillibrand is in the same house as Collens from Maine, good luck.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:42 PM

22. Plus the woman involved was NOT sleeping IMO

In on the joke. And happily so because she wanted more entree into show biz by parlaying her frequent USO trips with real celebrities to getting bigger roles.

I miss him so much.

Truly HATE KG. Her followers not so much as she was the successful manipulative leader of the lynch mob piggybacking on the MeToo movement for political traction. The rest piled on for various and weak-kneed reasons. Don't think they would have done it without HER.


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Response to elfin (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:12 PM

27. I suspect that's why he wanted that Ethics investigation so stuff like that could be exposed.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:05 AM

42. What about Harris, Sanders, Warren, Booker and

 

the over 30 other Senators who called for Franken to resign the very same morning?

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:20 PM

12. It will be tough, but he has a better chance than most. Sophomoric photos surfaced at worse time,

unfortunately.

He probably could have weathered storm, but I don't fault Democrats who called for him to resign. It was a 'Perfect Storm" to catch Franken. Miss him a lot.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:28 PM

31. If he could have weathered the storm, why quit?

I don't get that. It would have been tough had he not quit. But maybe after being out a while he can come back. Hope so.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:21 PM

14. I feel like he will be coming back to the public sector. I mean if he was not then he should of

gotten a show on TV or been a contributor to rip apart this shaministration. I feel he is very silent. WHY the silence when the people rallied around him. Looks like the ratfucking or whatever it was worked well to shut him up.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:31 PM

17. He should!

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:33 PM

18. He can run for President

Why not? And he will contrast well with Trump-- certainly better than the kitty cat grabber-- Franken took responsibility for his #meetoo issues.

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Response to andym (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:29 PM

32. Agreed ....

He's one up on Doofus already.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:41 PM

21. he should absolutely come back!!!

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:49 PM

23. He can come back

I dont think hed ever win as prez, due to him being jewish and the antisemitism in this country but many still support him so for something else for sure. What happened was crazy and ridiculous- there is so much hypocracy about that here and about many other things.

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Response to Meowmee (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:30 PM

33. Maybe veep?

How about Vice President with Biden?

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Response to ificandream (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:34 PM

35. Maybe

But I would say no😿 that is prolly why Gore lost own state

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:50 PM

24. I wish he would/could. What that whole

catastorphuck taught all of us, victims and perps, is that ratfucking works.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:57 PM

26. There would be a very slim chance for him to return successfully.

The short answer is no.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:19 PM

28. I think so.

I didn't get the impression the voters wanted him to resign. If he ran again, we'd give those voters a chance to be heard.

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Response to ooky (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:33 PM

34. Same here...

I'd like to see him at least make some kind of statement and get back in the public eye.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:55 PM

36. He'll need to be re-elected to a statewide office in Minnesota

before he can make a comeback. The jury of public opinion at the ballot box is the only really effective means of acquittal in a trial that was conducted by the media.

I guess he'd better hope for Sen. Klobuchar to be either president or vice-president, that will free up a seat.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

37. I hope so

He should run for a house seat in a safe district.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

38. I hope so, at least in some capacity.

I am still sick over what happened to him. He was a brilliant, principled politician and an asset to our party. We lost a lot when he left. He was such a strong, intelligent voice in congress and I am sure the republicans were all too happy to see him go.

Such a waste. If I had my wish, he would be president.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:45 AM

40. Would have loved to see him run ...

And I bet he'd have beaten Dumbo, too.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:12 AM

41. I wish he would, I would love him to but

he's probably had enough of the dirty backstabbing politics in DC.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:13 AM

43. His best chance would be to

 

run for Governor of Minnesota when that office opens up.

And just for the record over 35 other Senators called for Franken to resign on the same morning. It is unfair to single out one especially when it was Booker & Harris who immediately benefited by getting seats on the high profile Judiciary committee.

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:11 AM

44. Thinking about things now, he really should have held out and not crumbled under the immediate..

pressure. Democrats need to stand up for one another and not resign at the first sign of pressure. Let investigations happen, if the case needs be. The senate is a lesser body without his presence.

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