Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:47 PM
EffieBlack (13,151 posts)
Let's go over the definition of "Blackface" againWhen white actors would paint their faces black to resemble black people. Accompanied by a performance stereotyping them as buffoons. (Urban Dictionary)
Blackface is a form of theatrical make-up used predominantly by non-black performers to represent a caricature of a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the spread of racial stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified coon". (Wkipedia) Black makeup used by a performer, as in a minstrel show (Your Dictionary) Makeup applied to a performer playing a black person especially in a minstrel show (Mirriam-Webster) Blackface: ![]() Not Blackface: ![]()
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EffieBlack | Feb 6 | OP |
octoberlib | Feb 6 | #1 | |
johnp3907 | Feb 6 | #2 | |
guillaumeb | Feb 6 | #3 | |
Lefta Dissenter | Feb 6 | #4 | |
EffieBlack | Feb 6 | #6 | |
Lefta Dissenter | Feb 6 | #7 | |
EffieBlack | Feb 6 | #9 | |
Lefta Dissenter | Feb 6 | #17 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 6 | #5 | |
Historic NY | Feb 6 | #8 | |
EffieBlack | Feb 6 | #12 | |
TCJ70 | Feb 6 | #10 | |
EffieBlack | Feb 6 | #13 | |
ProudLib72 | Feb 6 | #11 | |
mcar | Feb 6 | #14 | |
EffieBlack | Feb 6 | #15 | |
janx | Feb 6 | #16 | |
Gothmog | Feb 6 | #18 | |
JHan | Feb 7 | #19 | |
SidDithers | Feb 7 | #20 |
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:49 PM
octoberlib (10,321 posts)
1. Thanks for posting.
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:50 PM
johnp3907 (2,451 posts)
2. Thank you.
Some of the stupiding around here lately is mind blowing!
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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:53 PM
guillaumeb (31,512 posts)
3. And would the average 25 year old, intelligent and educated medical student
who grew up in the American south have any reason to know this in 1985?
I know that what is called Southern history is a bit different from Northern, or actual, US history. But even in the uncivilized wilderness of Québec, we all knew what blackface was. And what was meant when a white person wore blackface. Recommended. |
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:54 PM
Lefta Dissenter (5,768 posts)
4. YES!
I’ve given a lot of thought to some friends whose daughter was obsessed with Kirby Puckett back in the 80s, so she dressed up as Kirby for Halloween - including using dark makeup on her face. She was probably in first or second grade at the time, and she did it because she admired him, not because she wanted to make fun of him.
Full disclosure - dare I even admit that I’m actually related to Al Jolson? ![]() |
Response to Lefta Dissenter (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:03 PM
EffieBlack (13,151 posts)
9. That's pretty cool about Al Jolsen
Response to EffieBlack (Reply #9)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:44 PM
Lefta Dissenter (5,768 posts)
17. It's kind of embarrassing.
I’m also related to Alexander Hamilton. That’s way cooler, but don’t forget to thank me when you’re paying your income taxes and your goods are more expensive due to tariffs!
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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:59 PM
Historic NY (31,295 posts)
8. Then there is this.............
Response to Historic NY (Reply #8)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:06 PM
EffieBlack (13,151 posts)
12. A few questions to figure the difference between blackface and an impersonation of a black person
Does the makeup resemble the skin tone of any actual black person? |
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:03 PM
TCJ70 (3,568 posts)
10. Where does attempting to look like a specific person fall?
I think Northam should resign for trying to backtrack his apology, but he also mentioned going to some dance thing as Michael Jackson. If you have a specific person in mind, and aren’t trying to make fun of them, is that still filed under racist?
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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #10)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:07 PM
EffieBlack (13,151 posts)
13. He claims he was impersonating Michael Jackson - using black shoe polish
That is not an impersonation. It's blackface.
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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:05 PM
ProudLib72 (14,181 posts)
11. Does it count if it's only a mask?
School apologises after children perform Black History Month poem in blackface masks https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/school-apologises-children-blackface-masks-black-history-month-atlanta-georgia-kindezi-old-fourth-a8286561.html
A school in Atlanta has apologised after children performed a poem for Black History Month in blackface masks. Pupils at Kindezi Old Fourth Ward Charter School recited Paul Laurence Dunbar’s 1896 poem “We Wear The Mask” while wearing black masks with exaggerated red lips and white eyes. A video of the recital, which was performed by seven and eight-year-olds, has been viewed millions of times since it was posted on Facebook by a concerned parent last week. ![]() ![]() |
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:10 PM
mcar (25,519 posts)
14. Thank you
It's the exaggeration, the mocking, the stereotyping.
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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:18 PM
janx (24,063 posts)
16. Apparently your posts in the other thread got buried.
I don't know why people don't understand that it's the INTENT that matters, and I'm really sorry that you need to point this out.
It should be obvious. |
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:26 PM
Gothmog (64,266 posts)
18. Thank you for posting this
Response to EffieBlack (Original post)
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 08:41 AM
SidDithers (42,424 posts)
20. DU Rec...
I liked the way Hekate phrased it:
"in character" and not "in caricature."
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