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Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:47 PM

Let's go over the definition of "Blackface" again

When white actors would paint their faces black to resemble black people. Accompanied by a performance stereotyping them as buffoons. (Urban Dictionary)

Blackface is a form of theatrical make-up used predominantly by non-black performers to represent a caricature of a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the spread of racial stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified coon". (Wkipedia)

Black makeup used by a performer, as in a minstrel show (Your Dictionary)

Makeup applied to a performer playing a black person especially in a minstrel show (Mirriam-Webster)



Blackface:


Not Blackface:

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Reply Let's go over the definition of "Blackface" again (Original post)
EffieBlack Feb 6 OP
octoberlib Feb 6 #1
johnp3907 Feb 6 #2
guillaumeb Feb 6 #3
Lefta Dissenter Feb 6 #4
EffieBlack Feb 6 #6
Lefta Dissenter Feb 6 #7
EffieBlack Feb 6 #9
Lefta Dissenter Feb 6 #17
uponit7771 Feb 6 #5
Historic NY Feb 6 #8
EffieBlack Feb 6 #12
TCJ70 Feb 6 #10
EffieBlack Feb 6 #13
ProudLib72 Feb 6 #11
mcar Feb 6 #14
EffieBlack Feb 6 #15
janx Feb 6 #16
Gothmog Feb 6 #18
JHan Feb 7 #19
SidDithers Feb 7 #20

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:49 PM

1. Thanks for posting.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:50 PM

2. Thank you.

Some of the stupiding around here lately is mind blowing!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:53 PM

3. And would the average 25 year old, intelligent and educated medical student

who grew up in the American south have any reason to know this in 1985?

I know that what is called Southern history is a bit different from Northern, or actual, US history.

But even in the uncivilized wilderness of Québec, we all knew what blackface was. And what was meant when a white person wore blackface.

Recommended.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:54 PM

4. YES!

I’ve given a lot of thought to some friends whose daughter was obsessed with Kirby Puckett back in the 80s, so she dressed up as Kirby for Halloween - including using dark makeup on her face. She was probably in first or second grade at the time, and she did it because she admired him, not because she wanted to make fun of him.

Full disclosure - dare I even admit that I’m actually related to Al Jolson?

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:56 PM

6. :-)

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:59 PM

7. :)

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:03 PM

9. That's pretty cool about Al Jolsen

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:44 PM

17. It's kind of embarrassing.

I’m also related to Alexander Hamilton. That’s way cooler, but don’t forget to thank me when you’re paying your income taxes and your goods are more expensive due to tariffs!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:55 PM

5. K&R,

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:06 PM

12. A few questions to figure the difference between blackface and an impersonation of a black person

Does the makeup resemble the skin tone of any actual black person?

Does the person in the black makeup actually resemble the person they're supposedly impersonating?

Does the person in the blackface resemble any particular black person or some random, unidentifiable black person?

Does the person in blackface look like they're appearing in a minstrel show?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:03 PM

10. Where does attempting to look like a specific person fall?

I think Northam should resign for trying to backtrack his apology, but he also mentioned going to some dance thing as Michael Jackson. If you have a specific person in mind, and aren’t trying to make fun of them, is that still filed under racist?

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:07 PM

13. He claims he was impersonating Michael Jackson - using black shoe polish

That is not an impersonation. It's blackface.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:05 PM

11. Does it count if it's only a mask?

School apologises after children perform Black History Month poem in blackface masks https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/school-apologises-children-blackface-masks-black-history-month-atlanta-georgia-kindezi-old-fourth-a8286561.html

A school in Atlanta has apologised after children performed a poem for Black History Month in blackface masks.

Pupils at Kindezi Old Fourth Ward Charter School recited Paul Laurence Dunbar’s 1896 poem “We Wear The Mask” while wearing black masks with exaggerated red lips and white eyes.

A video of the recital, which was performed by seven and eight-year-olds, has been viewed millions of times since it was posted on Facebook by a concerned parent last week.


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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:10 PM

14. Thank you

It's the exaggeration, the mocking, the stereotyping.

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Response to mcar (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:12 PM

15. Exactly

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:18 PM

16. Apparently your posts in the other thread got buried.

I don't know why people don't understand that it's the INTENT that matters, and I'm really sorry that you need to point this out.

It should be obvious.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:26 PM

18. Thank you for posting this

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2019, 08:00 AM

19. K&R

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2019, 08:41 AM

20. DU Rec...

I liked the way Hekate phrased it:

"in character" and not "in caricature."


Sid

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