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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNorth Carolina boy says he hung out with bear after vanishing from his grandmother's backyard.
The North Carolina 3-year-old who vanished from his grandmothers backyard earlier this week said he spent his two days in the woods with a friendly bear.
Casey Lynn Hathaway was found alive just before 9:30 p.m. Thursday, bringing an emergency two-day search for the missing toddler to a close. Rescue workers were following up on a tip about a crying child when they discovered Casey about 40 or 50 yards into a wooded area, tangled up in some brush and calling out for his mother.
The boy had been missing since Tuesday, when he didnt come inside with the other children hed been playing with at his grandmothers house in Enrul, located about 100 miles southeast of Raleigh.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/north-carolina-3-year-old-casey-hathaway-says-he-hung-out-with-a-bear-after-he-vanished-from-his-grandmothers-backyard/ar-BBSLY4T?li=BBnbfcL
ansible
(1,718 posts)No way that kid could've survived the temperatures at night there. And wild bears aren't exactly known to cuddle up with humans.
jalan48
(13,855 posts)former9thward
(31,965 posts)Especially in cooler temperatures.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Winter in NC is a seesaw.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)You think a kid-snatcher was lurking in the woods when this kid conveniently happened to wander off out of sight of the rest of the family? And then you think the kid-snatcher went back to the same woods, where there were hundreds of people searching and looking for anything unusual, to let the kid go? And when the kid was questioned about what happened while he was missing, he said nothing whatsoever that suggests there was another person involved? You really think that's what happened?
Much more likely the kid just got good and lost, which can happen very quickly in the woods, and being scared and lonely, he summoned an imaginary friend in the form of a bear.
Well said.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)I doubt he was outside the whole time.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But I also dont think theres some random kid snatcher roaming around.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)Kids are resourceful, and a 3 year old is smart enough to seek shelter and warmth if it's available. If he crawled under a fallen tree or dense shrubbery, for example, he could stay dry. A pile of rotting leaves might provide some heat. And so on. When it rained he would have been able to drink some water and avoid dehydration.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I suppose its possible to find a dry place, but as an adult Id make a lean-to at least.
A kid couldnt do that, and a thorny, brambly thicket gives little protection from the rain we had last week.
Anythings possible though. Except for the friendly bear lol.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)They think he was moving around, and only got stuck in that thicket shortly before he was found. I bet if you look around your property, you'll find places like hollow trees (standing and fallen), deadfalls, overhangs, outcroppings, etc. that stay dry.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I had to stop looking as an adult lol, and I did find a rock outcropping that might keep a small child dry.
Weve had so much rain this winter already that everything is soaked.
Lots of brambles on my property also - mostly blackberry bushes...I still cant understand how a child would willingly go in those thickets. I keep a respectful distance from those thorns.
All that matters is that hes safe. So nice to find a happy ending for a change.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)and it never makes the news. Thank goodness.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)I wonder why that is?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)wishstar
(5,268 posts)Even if parents have health insurance, they could end up with a bill in the hundreds as even good coverage like Blue Cross leaves nearly $200 per day in copays for hospital stay that the parents will be responsible to pay.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)Marthe48
(16,932 posts)By David Paulides. Full of reports of people going missing in woods or national parks. Many stay missing, many are found dead. I still don't know if the author had a beef, (he mentioned US park service woukdn't release some info) or if he is suggesting a conspiracy, like Bigfoot, but he sure listed a bunch of documented reports.
underpants
(182,736 posts)I think the thick brush is going to hold more answers than it seems.
No bear consideration in the searches or when they found him?
600 people couldn't find him 1/2 a mile from where he was last seen?
1/2 a mile is 6 city blocks so let's make a box 6x6. 600 people - probably not all at once - couldn't find him? That he had to be cut out of brush means the area/terrain could answer the previously stated questions.
The human body can withstand a lot. So surviving that is not totally unthinkable.
The human body also does things like hallucination. Stuck in a situation his mind could have gone somewhere in survival mode. Paw Patrol is all dogs but he could have thought there was a bear.
I could image what the family went through. Not going to cast any doubt on the family.
jalan48
(13,855 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,313 posts)Where I live, that 1/2 mile radius could swallow many kids where 600 people would have trouble finding them.
100 ft from my back door is near wilderness.
I, too, think the boy's bear may have been in his head.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)They all had names. One even went off on vacation to Florida according to my mother.
d_r
(6,907 posts)In Africa. This was a reading about language development, about Jeanie who had the horrible childhood in California and the wildest of Arvonne and the girls from India who it was said we're raised by wolves. This boy though in Africa, he was four when he was lost. He went missing from his home. When he was found he said that a troop of monkeys cared for him, that took care of him. Some professionals were skeptical. They thought that the colony of monkeys wasn't taking care of him, but that he might have been in the trees under them and eaten what they dropped. Who knows. O read this and understood their skepticism.
ansible
(1,718 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)A primate expert explains the confusion over baboon "pet-keeping."
Posted Jul 13, 2015
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/animals-and-us/201507/baboons-might-kidnap-puppies-not-pets
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sometimes short video clips are not exactly what they may seem to be.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Let it go.
d_r
(6,907 posts)I was thinking about
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/466616.stm
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Poor manipulated little kid.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Its cold as hell in NC now and aint no Beloo wandering around looking for the Bear Neccesities.
And a hungry bear in January would love a 3 year old boy... for food.
Wait a few days for the rest of the story.
Poor little boy. And a strong one at that. We all know how kids imagine and believe crazy things at times to explain things they cant understand. And the survival urge is stong in all of us.
So glad he is safe.
That said, I would kind of like it if they found him covered with Bear hairs!
jalan48
(13,855 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)I dunno.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)although apparently the species (black bear) roaming in NC has apparently been out and about this month (at least in the Asheville area which is nestled in the western colder mountains) - https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2019/01/02/black-bear-fatalities-interstate-40-near-asheville-increase-nc-wildlife-resource-commission/2463296002/
So it is probably warmer where this happened on the opposite side of the state closer to the coast (in fact that area probably got walloped by Hurricane Florence over the summer since it is near New Bern, which was extensively covered during that storm).
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Weird story but dont totally discount what he says. Look at it from a 3-year olds angle if possible.
My cousins and I used to hide in the woods. You can really get into dense areas of brush and other plants. A little kid could make his way inside some of those places. That area is somewhat like my surroundings.
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)Former neighbor had chow chows that were incredibly gentle around both her baby and tiny kittens.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Why do you all hate interspecies relationships?
betsuni
(25,449 posts)Guy falls downhill while collecting firewood in winter and finds a cave: "As I groped a bit further, my fingertips felt what could only be -- a bear! I was frightened to death. ... 'Sir Bear,' I stammered, 'I am only a fellow who went out to collect firewood and fell into this valley ... but if you have mercy, help.' And I stroked the bear all the while ... . In a moment it was beside me and nudged me with its rear end. When I sat down where the bear had been, what warmth! It was like a hearth, and as my whole body grew warm and I forgot the cold I thanked the bear profusely and begged it again to save me ... . At this the bear raised its paw and softly pressed it to my mouth several times. Recalling that bears live off a store of crushed ants in the winter, I licked the paw and found the taste sweet, but a little sharp. After licking the paw several times I felt refreshed and my thirst was quenched. ... Realizing that the bear was going to save me, I was greatly relieved. I lay down back to back with the bear and thought only of returning to my village, not the least bit sleepy. Then before I knew it I was asleep, too."
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)According to the myth, she was abandoned on a mountainside by her father where the infant was found by a she-bear and adopted. The baby grew into a girl and into a woman, trained as a hunter by the bear family. Atalanta was the only woman participating in the hunt for the Corinthian Boar. Later, her human family reclaimed her but she would not marry unless a man could win a foot race with her. You likely know her legend better as the woman who lost a race to marry because her competitor threw three golden apples at her feet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta
panader0
(25,816 posts)I saw this guy recite his poems years ago in Tucson. This poem stuck with me.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42679/the-bear