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Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:52 AM

How did such an ignorant/stupid person get to be president?

Easy answer. There are millions of ignorant/stupid voters that can easily be conned by ignorant/stupid candidates.

The Republican Party has been selling snake oil for decades. This time around, the product they sold as president was pure poison. Yet, their voters gobbled it up.

And here we are. Totally fucked by a minority of morons.

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Reply How did such an ignorant/stupid person get to be president? (Original post)
Cyrano Jan 24 OP
Javaman Jan 24 #1
bdamomma Jan 24 #26
Cyrano Jan 24 #32
bdamomma Jan 24 #36
JustAnotherGen Jan 24 #2
lpbk2713 Jan 24 #3
LeftInTX Jan 24 #42
Pantagruel Jan 24 #4
fleur-de-lisa Jan 24 #5
HopeAgain Jan 24 #14
smirkymonkey Jan 24 #23
Wounded Bear Jan 24 #29
DontBooVote Jan 24 #6
JI7 Jan 24 #7
NurseJackie Jan 24 #8
WeekiWater Jan 24 #9
denverbill Jan 24 #20
Cyrano Jan 24 #25
WeekiWater Jan 24 #47
denverbill Jan 24 #50
klook Jan 24 #10
Post removed Jan 24 #11
UpInArms Jan 24 #12
Blue_true Jan 24 #21
bdamomma Jan 24 #28
The Genealogist Jan 24 #13
Itchinjim Jan 24 #15
Wellstone ruled Jan 24 #16
Blue_true Jan 24 #22
Wellstone ruled Jan 24 #35
Blue_true Jan 24 #40
Wellstone ruled Jan 24 #46
Blue_true Jan 24 #54
Wellstone ruled Jan 24 #55
Blue_true Jan 24 #56
jalan48 Jan 24 #17
kairos12 Jan 24 #18
Blue_true Jan 24 #19
Elwood P Dowd Jan 24 #24
doc03 Jan 24 #27
Cyrano Jan 24 #37
LeftInTX Jan 24 #45
delisen Jan 24 #30
moondust Jan 24 #31
LisaM Jan 24 #33
bdamomma Jan 24 #38
LisaM Jan 24 #48
clementine613 Jan 24 #34
Stuart G Jan 24 #39
bdamomma Jan 24 #49
eppur_se_muova Jan 24 #41
beachbum bob Jan 24 #43
ailsagirl Jan 24 #44
walkingman Jan 24 #51
Mike Nelson Jan 24 #52
Blue_Tires Jan 24 #53

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:53 AM

1. russia wanted someone easy to manipulate. nt

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Response to Javaman (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:51 PM

26. He was a very easy

mark, and a thug just like the Russian mafia. So Russia threw a few compliments to tRump and he sold out the USA. It is really disgusting I just hope people will start catching on, but then again there are those who are complete denial.

But tRump has always been a con artist, and still continues to be. He needs to go so does, McConnell, Miller, Mulvaney, Mnuchin and those who were involved in this need to be thrown out. They are not Americans. Also they are killing our environment, oceans, animals what kind of monsters are these.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:02 PM

32. Trump brought in the worst of the worst

They are doing everything possible to destroy what the rest of us call civilization.

And they are doing their best to destroy what the rest of the world calls the environment.

Regarding the environment, one or two more Republican presidents will probably end it all. What do I mean by "all?' What I mean is a planet on which life can exist, survive, thrive. And I don't mean just human life. I mean life every life form that exists on Earth.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:09 PM

36. Cyrano

What I mean is a planet on which life can exist, survive, thrive. And I don't mean just human life. I mean life every life form that exists on Earth.

did you mean "can't" in your first sentence.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:53 AM

2. Ditto

I known a lot of people blame the MF45 - but I blame the people who voted for that thing.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:54 AM

3. The RNC decided Trump was the best they had.




That speaks volumes.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:24 PM

42. The RNC wanted Jeb Bush or Rubio

The Republican voters wanted Trump

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:56 AM

4. Twice in 16 years the Electoral College

failed disastrously at delivering democracy. Time to dump it.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:56 AM

5. Stupid voters + Dishonest media + Russian interference + Complicit pukes in congress equals Shitler

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:29 PM

14. +mysogyny +RACISM!

The biggest factors of all.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:44 PM

23. These reasons plus Hope Again's reasons.

All of them combined. The misogyny and racism are key though. There were a lot of votes cast out of pure hatred, and he retains those voters because of pure hatred as well.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:58 PM

29. Don't forget the FBI assist from Comey...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:57 AM

6. Because he appeals to ignorant and stupid people, which comprise about 1/3 of Americans who,

when you listen to them talk, you think: what a stupid, ignorant thing to say.

Also, because Russia.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:57 AM

7. most didn't need to be conned. most did so over shared bigotry.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:57 AM

8. Ignorant and stupid low-information and gullible voters, mostly.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:58 AM

9. Populist rhetoric, coming from the right or left,

truly works on the lowest common denominator.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:34 PM

20. Both sides do it.

Right-wing-populism=Racism, misogyny, building walls, jailing your political opponents

Left-wing-populism=Increasing the minimum wage, providing health care for everyone, providing affordable education for everyone.


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Response to denverbill (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:50 PM

25. Yes. Exactly.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:31 PM

47. Historically, left wing populism does little of what you state.

Historical populism is one of the least understood things. Few that espouse it, historically, have ever done a thing of what you state.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:40 PM

50. Well, the problem is that many left-wing politicians are being branded as populists today.

Like Bernie Sanders and AOC. They are branded as populists for supporting popular ideas.

Historically, left-wing populism was labor related and race related. Anti-Irish, anti-Italian, anti-Chinese, when those groups were immigrating in large numbers to the US and being used as strike-breakers.

I frankly haven't seen a left-wing politician embrace anything like that in the last 50 years.

So when you talk about populism, it's ancient history to the left-wing and quite active on the right.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:04 PM

10. Republican voter suppression strategy and tactics have been extremely successful. (nt)

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:19 PM

12. I blame part of it on reality teevee

Where people are taught to “vote” people off a show ..

What kind of shit is that?

Where only if you “like” someone ... not based on anything real

Might as well have someone whose big talent is balancing a wine glass on their arse ...

😔

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:40 PM

21. A kindred soul.

I have never understood the appeal of shows like Survivor and Big Brother. To me, the celebrate the worse elements of human nature. I sort of like a more skill and reasoning based reality show like The Amazing Race, except for the "detour" aspect of it - which I view as corrupt.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:57 PM

28. also peoples' mentality

has been dumb ed down for many years. I remember this one report how someone like a reporter asked a voter: why they voted for Trump, the person replied watching him on TV was like they knew him. WTF.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:25 PM

13. There are millions of ignorant, stupid, racist, xenophobic, authoritarian deplorables just like him

The main difference is that most of them are less wealthy than he is.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:43 PM

15. Because ignorant/stupid people voted for him.

He's one of them.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:45 PM

16. Here you go,

Democratic Voters sat on their collective hands and did not bother tin to vote in off year elections of 2010 and 2014.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:43 PM

22. Very good observation. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:09 PM

35. Watched the hard numbers during both Cycles

as someone who volunteered. 2010 was the killer for our Party. Lived in a almost all White State controlled by one dominate Religion and the Race card was played big time. It worked to suppress the vote,people became complacent and turned off.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:16 PM

40. A lot of people on the left sat out that 2010 election.

I truly hope people have learned to NEVER sit out a decade election. Imagine where we would be if our voters had backed up 2008 and 2012 with full participation in 2010 and 2014.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:29 PM

46. Lets be honest,the left is a term that

was used by the Rethug PR machine in 2010 and again in 2014 as a suppression tool.

Listen to the Media,and my observation will be born out.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 05:56 PM

54. I consider myself to be a person of the left.

I have no concerns about telling people that to their faces. We need to stop running away from it and explain to other people who we are and what we stand for. The largest town in my red county does a lot of what could be called left wing activities, but votes mostly republican. When I talk to some of those people, I can see the wheels spinning in their heads as they try to convince themselves that they don't love left wing policies. Revenue sharing, which a lot of the South depend on (except the major cities like Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, all left) is a left wing policy built around the concept of the fortunate helping the less fortunate.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #54)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 06:03 PM

55. Always considered myself

leftest my whole life. What I should have said or used a example of how the Local Media at the time was referring to,was their use of McCarthy type of phrasing and false narratives.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #55)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 06:19 PM

56. The media are largely cowards, and we let them paint us.

The right yell and scream about media coverage of them. We say almost nothing. Who do you think the media will end up afraid of? Our side must start calling the media out on the spot, in real time.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:53 PM

17. He was sold to us by the corporate media. He was given hundreds of minutes of free air time

during the primaries when his campaign was trying to get a foothold. His well known history as a corrupt businessman was ignored as well as his over-the-top sexist behavior at the beauty pageants he worked at. Can you imagine a Democratic contender getting a pass if his wife had appeared half-naked in photo shoots? Michelle Obama was chastised for simply wearing a sleeveless dress.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:59 PM

18. Raygun to Shitler. A natural progression.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:33 PM

19. How?

About 15-20% of Americans are racists or just full of hate for people not like them or their neighbors. Another 5% think ONLY
about their pockets and not about society. Another 2-3% can't support anything but their perfect idea of a candidate. Another 30% simply don't give enough of a shit to vote.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:44 PM

24. Almost 40% voted to keep the the policies that lead to The Great Depression.

They wanted the Harding - Coolidge - Hoover republicans over FDR.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:55 PM

27. A bunch of ignorant/stupid people voted for him.

He won buy 42 points in WV.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:10 PM

37. Do you think they're enjoying all their new coal mines?

Sorry about the sarcasm. These are people who bought the new coal mine shit he was selling and got fucked.

They are among the some of saddest victims of his "presidency."

Hard to feel sorry for them. But people shouldn't starve because of their own ignorance.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:29 PM

45. They will vote for him again.

They also have very low voter turnout.

There was a segment on NPR about W Virginia. People complained, "Nobody represents us, so we don't vote".

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 01:59 PM

30. Unfortunately it is not just Republicans who were conned in election 2016.

and are ripe to be conned again and again.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:00 PM

31. Bigots 'n Pigs 'n Dodos.

And a rigged election system.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:03 PM

33. Voters care too much about personality. End of story.

I'm still arguing with people who think Gore was a bad candidate and that Nader didn't cost him the election. Well, move the dial up 18 years, and a Gore presidency in 2000 starts to look pretty good in hindsight.

I am so flipping sick of people who demand to be "inspired" by a candidate. How about if we remain inspired by ideals and what's been a pretty progressive Democratic party platform for decades, and focus on wisdom, experience, and qualifications for our candidates?

I'd pretty much take the America we'd have had under Gore, Kerry, and Hillary Clinton. I'd be proud of that America. I'm proud of those candidates. At some level, you just have to blame the voters.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:12 PM

38. It would have been very

different if those you mentioned Gore,Kerry and Hillary we given their place in US history. Plus if Mr. Gore got in our climate wouldn't be in the condition it is now.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:36 PM

48. It drives me crazy when people say that Democrats haven't been green enough.

We had about the greenest candidate ever! Ever! And bad cess to the so-called "Green" party for running anyone against him.

For that matter, Kerry's environmental creds were strong. I went to hear him speak in 2004 in Seattle, and he was on environmental issues affecting the state like a laser. Of course, the substance of his speech was not even reported locally, much less nationally. Local news made a big to-do that he took his wife to a fancy restaurant for their anniversary.

Washington went for Kerry, but I still think any headline like "Kerry Makes Passionate Speech Committing to the Environment" would have been good reporting, true, and been something for people to find when researching his positions. Because it was a passionate speech, a barn burner, really, and it was well received, and it sank like a lead balloon as far as media coverage. Maybe he should have worn a red hat and thought up puerile nicknames for Bush.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:03 PM

34. Sometimes I think that we have to take away the vote from Rethugs...

... for the safety of the country.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:15 PM

39. It is simple..The Republican Party put him up, and Mr. Putin put him in as President of the U.S.A.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:44 PM

49. and the repigs got rewarded

with russian money. It's about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for them.


found this article: from 2017


https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/mitch-mcconnell-caught-millions-russian-oligarch/4178/

Snip of article:

If you’re wondering why Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has continued to stand by a sinking Donald Trump even as the rest of the Republican Senate has increasingly begun trying to distance itself from Trump over the past weeks, the explanation may be simple: follow the money. The Dallas Morning News is now confirming a story which Palmer Report reported back in May, which involves Mitch McConnell and a few other Republicans having been caught taking Russian money.



The Dallas Morning News is reporting today that a Ukrainian-born, pro-Kremlin billionaire has funneled millions of dollars into the hands of Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and a few other top Republicans (link). This is the same story that Palmer Report first brought you back on May 24th (link). It’s unclear why the mainstream media has waited until now to jump on the bandwagon, but it does serve to highlight the issue at a time when there appears to be a split within the GOP with regard to the Russia-aligned Donald Trump.



As we reported back in May, Mitch McConnell took $2.5 million from the Russian oligarch in question during the 2016 election cycle – even though he wasn’t up for reelection. Wisconsin’s Republican Governor Scott Walker also took $1 million from the same Russian oligarch. Other Republicans received much smaller donations, in negligible amounts which would not have been expected to result in any real influence over them. McConnell is the only member of Congress who received a large enough donation from the oligarch to have translated into real political influence.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:19 PM

41. He had help from cynical/evil people within the GOP.

The ignorant/stupid voters were *probably* necessary, but someone had to herd those sheep.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:26 PM

43. Because so called smart people couldn't support the lesser of 2 evils, same

people gave us 8 yrs of bush-Cheney...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:28 PM

44. Russia

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:41 PM

51. There are a lot of Americans that think exactly like him. Sad but true.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:51 PM

52. Too many...

… Deplorables voted. We need to vote for the nominee as if our lives depended on the nominee winning. That means a Hillary, Bernie, Obama, or any of the new ones... your nominee didn't win the primary? You vote as enthusiastically for the winner. It's that easy.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:56 PM

53. Because he swore he would

kick out all the Muslims and Mexicans and put all those uppity Negroes kneeling for the anthem in their place...

And also because he got a HUGE boost from a Kremlin disinformation program and the MSM kept treating him like a TV celebrity instead of giving him the scrutiny they'd give to any conventional candidate...

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