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Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:49 AM

And another question we should be asking about Covington

Although I have seen suggestions by some that the action by Covington Catholic High School is a violation of the Church's tax exempt status, I don't believe that is the case. Tax exempt status allows such organizations to engage in political advocacy for or against issues or causes; they just can't advocate for specific candidates.

BUT . . .

The question this brings to mind for me is this: Is it appropriate for a school run by a religious organization to enlist minors (il.e., the students in its charge) as pawns or footsoldiers for the religious oragnization's sociopolitical advocacy? Some will say sending these kids to the demonstration was about teaching the kids civic engagement. But if that's the case, I would ask, what about any students who may quietly disagree with the school's (and the church's) position on the issue in question (abortion, in this case)? Are such students permitted to civically engage the issue on their own terms, free from any fear of academic sanction or disciplinary action by school authorities? if not, then these students are not being taught about civic engagement, but are being used -- indeed, exploited -- by the Roman Catholic Church for its own purposes.

But then, the Roman Catholic Church is rather expert in exploiting children, so . . .

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Reply And another question we should be asking about Covington (Original post)
markpkessinger Jan 2019 OP
sazemisery Jan 2019 #1
markpkessinger Jan 2019 #2
breakingbad23 Jan 2019 #6
UpInArms Jan 2019 #8
TlalocW Jan 2019 #3
oberliner Jan 2019 #4
Squinch Jan 2019 #5
jcgoldie Jan 2019 #7
oberliner Jan 2019 #15
Squinch Jan 2019 #16
FSogol Jan 2019 #9
oberliner Jan 2019 #14
uppityperson Jan 2019 #10
oberliner Jan 2019 #13
LanternWaste Jan 2019 #11
oberliner Jan 2019 #12

Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:57 AM

1. Search for "student and youth activity permission form"

That is how the church and school are allowed to send them to these events. Their parents have given their permission.

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Response to sazemisery (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:11 AM

2. I'm not questioning the legality of it . . .

. . . I am questioning the appropriateness of it.

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:26 AM

6. Do you question

 

Do you question the appropriateness of the Parkland High School student protesters?

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Response to breakingbad23 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:37 AM

8. They are not sanctioned by the school

They banded together after the shooting

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:48 AM

3. In a Catholic school, dissent on abortion isn't allowed

In college, I found some extra work being a math tutor in high schools through a college program including at a local Catholic school. One of my first days, I basically sat in an empty classroom waiting for kids to show up (no one did) so being bored, I looked at what was on the teacher's desk I was sitting at, and there was a pile of essay papers - the subject of them all was, "How would you talk someone out of getting an abortion." I read one or two papers - it was pretty weak sauce, but what the nun teachers would want.

TlalocW

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 05:39 AM

4. Was attendance at the rally mandatory for all students?

 

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:14 AM

5. You didn't watch the video. You probably shouldn't comment till you do.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:30 AM

7. You're on a roll

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Response to Squinch (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:08 PM

15. Which video? Can you provide a link?

 

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:38 PM

16. You should watch the whole video.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 09:16 AM

9. Man, I am glad I don't have to spend my day defending RW snots.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:07 PM

14. Me too

 

That looks like some tasty Guinness!

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:11 PM

10. What does that matter? It's school sanctioned.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:07 PM

13. I would be curious to know how many students chose to go and how many didn't

 

If it was optional.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:27 PM

11. You could find out and supply us with that information.

Or you could pretend you don't know how to research.

Or you could call people 'delusional' again for having thought Roy Moore would lose.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:06 PM

12. Those are good options

 

Thank you for responding to my post and presenting them.

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