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Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:03 AM

How I almost always shut down an argument with Trumpers

Today it was shooting down the BS edited videos the right wing has put out to make the Native Americans look like they instigated things with the Catholic kids. There will almost always be some kind of pivot to "The liberal media this and that to make ass holes in red hats look bad."

I always go straight for the jugular by saying: "Did you speak up when Trump said some Nazis are fine people? Did you speak up when Trump called Mexicans criminals, rapists and drug dealers? Did you speak up when Trump hounded Obama for years about his birth certificate? Did you speak up when Trump bragged about grabbing women by the pussy? Did you speak up when Trump mocked Native Americans and made light of the slaughter at Wounded Knee? Because if you didn't your silence is helping to divide the country."

They of course ignore this and try to change the subject and I ask them again and again. They can't win in this situation because if they say they did speak up (which they never do) then they are admitting Trump is scum. By not saying they spoke up, they know this looks fucked up because who in their right mind would not think they should condemn Nazis? So it usually just takes me sticking to the point twice and then they give up and stop responding.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:15 AM

1. I agree with all your points

especially to condom nazis ...

ok I know you'll probably edit it, but it is a valid point !

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Response to dweller (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:18 AM

2. Thanks for the heads up

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:25 AM

3. I enjoyed it

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Response to dweller (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 04:21 AM

4. Condom nazis? "No condom for you!!"

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 04:22 AM

5. Forgot one "Did you speak up when Trump mocked a disabled reporter?"

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:02 AM

6. Yep, YouTube is flooded with RW videos claiming to refute the original clip.

But they all basically just show the 4 ranting Black Hebrew Isrealites standing off to the side say crazy, racist, homophobic, sexists nonsense. Most of the "refutation" videos rely on clips from an over 90-minute cell phone video that appears to have been shot by one of the Black Isrealites himself, since he narrates it.

I guess the right wingers' point is that the boys were goaded into being horrible because these 4 nuts were horrible first.

But, again, the Black Isrealites did not make little Nick Sandmann get in Nathan Phillips' face, smirking, and refusing to let him pass. That was all on Nick:

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:04 AM

7. Did you speak up when Trump permanently separated 1000s of children from their parents?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:13 AM

8. Your examples are spot on

And you're seeing some excellent suggested additions above. I guess the question is: do you have all day to recite Trump's repugnant behavior? Will you need a glass of water handy so your voice doesn't go dry while verbalizing the very lengthy list?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 06:12 PM

9. I don't have the patience to talk to those people anymore.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:49 AM

12. Me neither.

Such people can go fuck themselves.

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:03 AM

14. Only if they learn the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:52 PM

10. My standard (and repeated)

response to right wing propaganda is: Kindly furnish us with peer reviewed empirical data that supports your assertions. One of the Trumpinistas responded by saying "I'm not doing research for you liberals," thus proving my point. .

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:02 PM

11. Ask if they believe in gravity and if so then about science and then global warming etc

Watch them squirm.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:54 AM

13. It's no use. Silence equals consent. These cult members need to be deprogrammed.

Give them a little "A Clockwork Orange" action and get back to me. (That'll open their eyes.)

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