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MariaM83

(233 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:05 PM Aug 2012

"Legitimate rape"? same as what Ron Paul called an "honest rape"

Todd Aikin isn't the only Republican politician who doubts women who say they have been raped.

Ron Paul, who practiced for many years as an obstetrician , is another.

"Ron Paul generously offers victims of 'honest rape' the right to abortion"
http://jezebel.com/5882692/ron-paul-generously-offers-victims-of-honest-rape-the-right-to-abortion

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"Legitimate rape"? same as what Ron Paul called an "honest rape" (Original Post) MariaM83 Aug 2012 OP
and being an OB-GYN, Paul can also reset their uterine defense mechanisms. Solly Mack Aug 2012 #1
can't that be done over the air now? frylock Aug 2012 #12
Who the fuck knows? I can't even find mine. Solly Mack Aug 2012 #22
When I see Ron Paul and honest rape... luvspeas Aug 2012 #2
Rape is a GOP FAMILY VALUE. _Liann_ Aug 2012 #3
honest and legitimate, as if the rapist is respectable eShirl Aug 2012 #4
All the freedom loving libertarians should consider the link here: freshwest Aug 2012 #5
Pretty much Hydra Aug 2012 #8
Well, it was fun. For them, huh? Women and children... Not so much. freshwest Aug 2012 #10
Yes and no Hydra Aug 2012 #15
I've argued with wingnuts who are against abortion, claim that women get pregnant to get money, freshwest Aug 2012 #19
You know, if climate change wasn't going to kill most of us Hydra Aug 2012 #20
This has got to be Aerows Aug 2012 #13
Apparently some references to rape are just harmless fun, link: patrice Aug 2012 #6
I don't understand that picture. Sow? Boar? Pretty mouth? Is that like saying ... freshwest Aug 2012 #18
Honest and legitimate? Hatchling Aug 2012 #7
Legitimate? Honest? How about "rape-rape"? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #9
Bill Napoli's "Sodomized Religious Virgin" version: LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #11
how far away are we from them referencing a "good, clean rape?" frylock Aug 2012 #14
Hey, ladies, you know that some rapes ARE legitimate Aerows Aug 2012 #16
Not losing their minds Hydra Aug 2012 #21
How can rape be called legitimate? RebelOne Aug 2012 #17
I don't understand with this language all over the GOP primaries the media reaction NOW Johonny Aug 2012 #23

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
1. and being an OB-GYN, Paul can also reset their uterine defense mechanisms.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

Protected by Ignorance! Stand back!

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
2. When I see Ron Paul and honest rape...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

I hear the voice of the guy on SNL that impersonates him going up high at the end of each word.

We're talking about honeST raPE herE!

_Liann_

(377 posts)
3. Rape is a GOP FAMILY VALUE.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

Rape is one of the EIGHT BIBLICAL TRADITIONAL FORMS OF MARRIAGE: Republicans have been approving government-compelled birth of rape-children in many states. Rape is a GOP FAMILY VALUE.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
New International Version (NIV)
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

The EIGHT REPUBLICAN BIBLICAL TRADITION FORMS OF MARRIAGE:
1: Polygamous Marriage (lots of same-sex women married all together with one man, 1 Kings 11:3, CH 11:21 Rehoboam had eighteen wives and sixty concubines)
2: Leverite Marriage (bigamy with brother's heirless widow, (De 25:5))
3: A Man, A Woman, and Her Property (wife's slave, Gen. 16:1-6, Gen. 30:4-5)
4: A Man, One or More Wives, and some Sex Slave Concubines (Judges 19:1-30, David's son, Solomon, chose 700 wives and 300 concubines, totaling 1,000 women in 1 Kings 11:3)
5: A Male Soldier and a Female Prisoner of War (DT 21:10-14, NU 31:17-18, )
6: A Male Rapist and His Victim (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
7: A Male Slave and A Female Slave
8: Monogamous Heterosexual Marriage

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. All the freedom loving libertarians should consider the link here:
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:39 PM
Aug 2012
Will Ron Paul himself be waiting vigilantly in every American ER, syringe of estrogen at the ready, ready to provide anti-pregnancy treatment for rape victims who are behaving properly? He doesn't say.

Instead, he continues, noting that while the victim of an "honest rape" can take the morning after pill this one time, a different set of standards should apply to a woman who was raped and just moseys on into the doctor's office 7 months later to have one of those spontaneous late term "just-for-funsies" abortions women are so fond of having nowadays.


What I've pasted from the link, and emboldened myself, may be the slant of the writer.

This is the patronizing attitude the GOP has of women, that they are nothing but children to be instructed by the wise old men. What is there about these alleged free thinkers that they DARE judge another person's wants, needs or thoughts?

These men are in effect, calling all women who don't agree with them liars, impugning the intelligence, morals and integrity of women who say they do not want to or cannot carry a child to term.

The abortion procedure is a painful one, and not just an easy, fun thing to do. The choices women are making are informed because they know what is going on in their lives and will live with the consequences.

They don't need to be informed by a bunch of busy bodies and good old boys who will NOT be living with the consequences of bearing a child.

It is insane that we are even having to have this discussion in this day and age. Or maybe we've been taken back in time to women could be legally beaten with a board so long as it wasn't too thick. And they couldn't vote. The GOP wants all of this for women.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
8. Pretty much
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:26 PM
Aug 2012

They're walking us back to the dark ages. No information, no birth control, no upward mobility and only faith in Gawd to grant you any hope.

...cuz it was so much fun the last thousand years that happened...

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
15. Yes and no
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:40 PM
Aug 2012

Who needs food, clothing, a good home and a clean world while you can beat the crap out of your wife and kids, or rape them at will?

If anyone thinks that's a good trade...they need to be introduced to the executioner's axe.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. I've argued with wingnuts who are against abortion, claim that women get pregnant to get money,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:52 PM
Aug 2012

From them and are gold diggers. Or welfare mothers to get money from the taxpayers. They say any women who dates them must 'Put Out' and there's no such thing as rape, that a woman does not have the right to say 'No.'

They have a circular reasoning on this, which leaves them free of responsibility. The same ones who say women can't have abortions, can't say No, also say if they do get pregnant from them, they were tricked. The fact they refuse to get a vasectomy and won't wear protection, doesn 't take the fault off the women who went with their rules and shouldn't come after them for child support.

They are against taxes that go to take care of 'those people's' babies. They vote GOP, hate Democrats, because they are baby killers, which means they're going to hell.

And they wonder why they can't get any dates. And they are why the rate of celibacy is going up.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
20. You know, if climate change wasn't going to kill most of us
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:59 PM
Aug 2012

What you say would have given me hope- that they would no longer be breeding and in the gene pool.

But alas...they start early and have many children. I didn't have any rabble rousers and looney lefties myself, so nobody to carry the torch.

Why does the stupid have to breed true?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. This has got to be
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:39 PM
Aug 2012

The most fucked up bunch of expositions, walk-backs, then justifications for horrible ethics I've ever seen, Freshwest.

If these people get into office, we are fucking doomed as a country.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. I don't understand that picture. Sow? Boar? Pretty mouth? Is that like saying ...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:48 PM
Aug 2012
Are you gonna kiss your mother with that mouth?

That's about profanity. His words and those of Ryan are an offense to the conscience. Who is the guy in the picture with Akin?

If the thing is about sexually abusing or raping this repuke, that should not be on DU. It's what right wing trolls post with other references to disgust and run off women and progressive posters.





Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
7. Honest and legitimate?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:58 PM
Aug 2012

Soon they will be giving out rape permits to prove a rape is honest and legitimate..

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. Legitimate? Honest? How about "rape-rape"?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:31 PM
Aug 2012

Whoopi: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape."

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
11. Bill Napoli's "Sodomized Religious Virgin" version:
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:35 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-sklar/welcome-to-senator-bill-n_b_17669.html

"A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life."
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. Hey, ladies, you know that some rapes ARE legitimate
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:45 PM
Aug 2012

There are reasons to rape you. For instance, if you look too good. You might be in church or mowing the lawn, but if you look too good, well, that's a reason to rape you.

Unless you have sons to protect you. You have had sons, right? No? Oh, well you need to be raped so that you have some sons to protect you. If all you have are daughters, well, they probably need to be raped too so that THEY can have sons.

I hope that isn't needed, but this generation of Republicans are losing their minds.

Johonny

(20,836 posts)
23. I don't understand with this language all over the GOP primaries the media reaction NOW
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:37 PM
Aug 2012

like somehow honest rape, forcible rape, legitimate rape, personhood amendment is new.

on the other hand did the GOP think the dems wouldn't make this language an election issue. I guess for years Dems have been running from a strong pro-choice stance, but I think that time might be over.

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