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So this is why the Big Con has been getting away with shit in New York....! (Original Post) pbmus Jan 2019 OP
His father was Carter's Secy of State who- dawg day Jan 2019 #1
Thanks. I was about to ask. underpants Jan 2019 #4
I thought it was the same guy until I read the replies. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #15
That's not so far-fetched actually BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #30
like Jr.? cojoel Jan 2019 #8
Maybe Vance Sr. colluded Scarsdale Jan 2019 #32
"Family values" indeed. calimary Jan 2019 #34
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #2
One more count on Trump's indictment. Botany Jan 2019 #3
They should also investigate former FL Attorney General Pam Bondi Mister Ed Jan 2019 #5
Was Pam Bondi the 'Pam' on secret Donald Trump tape? WeekiWater Jan 2019 #6
I believe that the linkage was made to Pam Bondi. Don't have the bg info right here. erronis Jan 2019 #21
Gitmo will have to Scarsdale Jan 2019 #33
From Trump's charity even exboyfil Jan 2019 #7
It was only $25,000. Another one selling out cheap. dhol82 Jan 2019 #17
Every day, more cockroaches. God almighty this is going to be wild when it all shakes out. nt DRoseDARs Jan 2019 #9
Bernie / Elizabeth Have Been Talking About The Rigged Game PaulX2 Jan 2019 #10
as long as we are a capitalistic plutocracy elmac Jan 2019 #13
And as long as the SCOTUS is rigged and passes shit like Citizens United erronis Jan 2019 #22
I think the depth and scope of this one tho, will get enough people woke Volaris Jan 2019 #29
So true Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #24
+1000 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #14
Crime Family obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #11
No pardoning your way out of state level charged either. Takket Jan 2019 #12
Damn, he sold himself cheap! dhol82 Jan 2019 #16
NYC is full of his kind 2naSalit Jan 2019 #19
Dunno. It would a hell of a lot of $25,000 payoffs to warrant trip to the Caymans. dhol82 Jan 2019 #23
If there's a regular flow of such funds 2naSalit Jan 2019 #25
I've had a jaded view of him for a while now... 2naSalit Jan 2019 #18
And in FLORI-duh....State AG got $$$$ from tRUMP and dropped tRUMP University case. SayItLoud Jan 2019 #20
Maybe it is being looked at. Think about it..we know about it..so will they. I'll bet there's even UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #27
Cyrus Vance Has Been Giving Trump A Pass.... Laxman Jan 2019 #26
It doesn't explain who was doing it prior to 2010. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #28
Hooray!! Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #31
Crooked as a corkscrew. calimary Jan 2019 #35
Add Pam Biondi to the list of bribes Pepsidog Jan 2019 #36

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. His father was Carter's Secy of State who-
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jan 2019

resigned "on a point of honor" when Carter sent in a special ops mission to try to free the hostages in Iran. (IT was a bad failure, but hard to see how it was 'dishonorable'.)

Anyway, interesting factoid.

underpants

(182,720 posts)
4. Thanks. I was about to ask.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jan 2019

Kind of strange that he wouldn’t use some sort of suffix to distinguish himself.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
15. I thought it was the same guy until I read the replies.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

I figured that if Carter is still alive, than Vance could be too, just a very old DA.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Maybe Vance Sr. colluded
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

with Reagan. Remember, HE did not want the hostages released until AFTER the election. Maybe Vance Sr. was paid to screw this up?? Vance Jr. may be living the good old "family values"??

Mister Ed

(5,926 posts)
5. They should also investigate former FL Attorney General Pam Bondi
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jan 2019

... who, if I recall correctly, dropped her investigation into the fraudulent Trump University after receiving a large "campaign contribution" from Trump.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
10. Bernie / Elizabeth Have Been Talking About The Rigged Game
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jan 2019

For a long time.

Until we clean up crap like this we can't call ourselves a democracy.

Sorry.

Lock Them ALL Up

There are hundreds / thousands of Trumplike criminals out there. Until we get the money out forget it. They can buy their way out of any crime every time.

Epstein may have raped 60 little girls and got work release.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
13. as long as we are a capitalistic plutocracy
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

there will always be separate justice for the haves and have nots.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
22. And as long as the SCOTUS is rigged and passes shit like Citizens United
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:46 PM
Jan 2019

then we can't have justice and a better democracy.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
29. I think the depth and scope of this one tho, will get enough people woke
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jan 2019

That we should be ready to push hard for a Publicly-funded elections amendment (because if we're ready, we can get it) that's how pissed people will be at what's been done to our supposed democracy. There are levels of corruption that we can accept, and levels that we just won't.
This will be the latter.

2naSalit

(86,501 posts)
19. NYC is full of his kind
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)

I can imagine a reasonable fee from many of them would leave him sitting on a secret acct in the Caymans.

2naSalit

(86,501 posts)
18. I've had a jaded view of him for a while now...
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

glad he's being looked over for fraud. I want every last one of the traitorous enablers to be punished just as severely.

But you know, that's makes this smell more like a RICO case with this new tidbit...

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
20. And in FLORI-duh....State AG got $$$$ from tRUMP and dropped tRUMP University case.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

Be nice if that was looked into as well as the Vance . Pam Bondi took the contribution...visited Mar-A-FARGO many times to hit up other grifters...and a "lot of people saying" she did other stuff with the Orange pig.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
27. Maybe it is being looked at. Think about it..we know about it..so will they. I'll bet there's even
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:20 PM
Jan 2019

more there once the FEDS start looking under the covers.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
26. Cyrus Vance Has Been Giving Trump A Pass....
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:08 PM
Jan 2019

for years.

Manhattan District Attorney Says He’ll No Longer Accept Contributions From Lawyers With Cases Before Him

Cy Vance had faced criticism after declining to prosecute high-profile defendants such as Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. and Harvey Weinstein, whose lawyers had donated to his campaign.

In October, ProPublica, WNYC and The New Yorker reported that Vance had overruled prosecutors who wanted to bring felony fraud charges against two of the president’s children, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr. The office had been investigating the two for making misleading statements as their father’s company attempted to sell apartments in a struggling condominium and hotel in downtown Manhattan called the Trump SoHo.

During the investigation, in 2012, Vance met with Donald Trump’s lawyer Marc Kasowitz. Kasowitz had donated $25,000 to Vance for his first re-election campaign. Vance returned the donation before the meeting. Then he declined to prosecute anyone in connection with the investigation. A few months later, Vance accepted more than $50,000 from Kasowitz and lawyers at his New York firm, Kasowitz Benson. Vance, in comments to ProPublica at the time, denied that Kasowitz influenced his decisions, but announced that he would return the second donation from the lawyer.


https://www.propublica.org/article/cyrus-vance-manhattan-district-attorney-lawyers-contributions
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