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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:13 PM

US calls for 'new government' in Venezuela

The State Department expressed support Saturday for an opposition party's bid to replace Nicolás Maduro as Venezuela's leader, declaring Maduro's government illegitimate.

A statement from the agency's deputy spokesman, Robert Palladino, encouraged the Venezuelan General Assembly's president, Juan Guaidó, who on Friday told supporters outside the legislature he was prepared to invoke the country's constitution to remove Maduro and serve as interim president.

Maduro, who was recently elected to a second six-year term, has faced accusations of illegitimacy from the U.S. and other nations due to low voter turnout, boycotts and ballot irregularities that occurred during last year's election.

“It is time to begin the orderly transition to a new government," Palladino said. "We support the National Assembly’s call for all Venezuelans to work together, peacefully, to restore constitutional government and build a better future.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/americas/425049-us-calls-for-new-government-in-Venezuela

I'm no fan of Maduro but it seems every time we've intervened in Latin America we've just traded one dictator for another.

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday OP
Clash City Rocker Saturday #1
sinkingfeeling Saturday #7
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KCDebbie Saturday #3
Crutchez_CuiBono Saturday #4
joshcryer Saturday #5
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DetlefK Saturday #6

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:16 PM

1. I'm calling for a new government in the US

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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:26 PM

7. Me too!

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:17 PM

2. Can we get one of those new government thingies here in the US?

It would be nice if someone called for Americans to work together, peacefully, to restore constitutional government and build a better future.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:26 PM

3. STFU! Someone needs to start calling for a new government HERE!

A functioning, rational government free of republicans and TRAITORS!

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:27 PM

4. They go on insisting on installing Democracies...after they've shown now they can be compromised.

This was a big danger and they did it anyway. There's so much damage they've done. We don't hold the moral high-ground anymore, and really have no grounds to demand anything of any other nation. We can't push our system on people anymore. All we have is an opinion.
Pompeo is just play acting now. The jigs up bubba.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:31 PM

5. This is likely signaling against Russia.

To pretend that we're still willing to meddle in their client states. All posturing.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:50 PM

8. Which helps to kill the thread,

because it makes Venezuela out to be a Russian client state.

Support Maduro, support Putin. (That's not really much support; Putin's merely being opportunist and probably thinks little of Maduro, if at all. Still, he's gotten some saber-rattling out of it and might just get a bomber base. It helps Putin in yanking the US' chains and helps Maduro in his attempt to pry away 2/3 of Guyanese territory in the name of empire. Or grievance that he doesn't have an empire. And it'd give him more territory to loot.)

It's also because in the last couple of weeks Maduro was sworn in, defying the Constitution in not being sworn in by the National Assembly but by his hand-packed supreme court. (It's something that people do when they want to exert control, go out of their way pack courts that they think are ideologically hostile and might be a check or balance on their government. Poland did it. Maduro did it. Look at who was criticized for it and play "spot the asymmetry."

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:52 PM

6. Good.

Do you want to know how the situation in Venezuela will end?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Revolution

In the early 1980s, an economic crisis began in socialist Romania. Shortages of food, shortages of medicine... but only for ordinary people. The military and the lackeys of the regime had no problem buying such things in special government-shops. But nobody dared to say a thing, because that was a good way to get killed by the secret police.

In 1989, a pastor spoke our against the regime. The government reacted by evicting him and trying to transfer him to another parish. Except that the village staged a protest. The protests grew and grew and transformed into nationwide protests for more rights.

The dictator Ceausescu announced a big speech. He held it from the balcony of his palace, in the center of the capital. Before him the plaza and streets were packed with thousands of people. Everybody was hoping for some change.

The dictator held his speech... and immediately brought out the same tired slogans and the same empty promises he had been giving for decades. Nothing would change. The entire audience, thousands strong, rose up in anger and stormed the palace.
(There's TV-footage, you can see the dictators shock and confusion that the masses are no longer buying his bullshit.)

A brief but bloody and chaotic civil-war followed, that only lasted a week, because the soldiers refused to shoot at civilians. The fighting was between ragtag rebels and exquisitely armed and trained security-forces. The lackeys abandoned the dictator because they did not want to get caught at his side by the rebels, which ultimately lead to his capture.

The dictator was taken captive by the rebels and supposed to be put on trial, but when rumors arose that a rescue-mission by his special-forces was under way, they executed him right away.






This is how the situation in Venezuela will end.

There will be a breaking-point.
Maduro will try to bullshit his way out of it, just like he did dozens of times before.
Only this time the people won't take it anymore and violence will break out.

If the military sides with him, Maduro will turn Venezuela into a dictatorship for good.
If the military does not side with him, Maduro will end up like Ceausescu (bullet in the head), Saddam Hussein (hanged) or Muammar Qaddafi (beaten to death by an angry mob).

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