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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:40 PM

Opinion: Donald Trump is NOT amoral.

Read this definition and you be the judge.

https://grammarist.com/usage/amoral-immoral/

Amoral vs. immoral
The adjective immoral means contrary to established moral principles. Immoral actions are corrupt, unethical, sinful, or just wrong. Amoral means (1) neither moral nor immoral, or (2) lacking moral sensibility. So while immoral and amoral might share a little common ground, there is a clear distinction: immoral things are bad, and amoral things are either neutral from a moral perspective or simply removed from moral considerations.

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Reply Opinion: Donald Trump is NOT amoral. (Original post)
Mme. Defarge Saturday OP
stonecutter357 Saturday #1
empedocles Saturday #2
guillaumeb Saturday #3
Mme. Defarge Saturday #5
guillaumeb Saturday #7
gulliver Saturday #4
Mme. Defarge Saturday #6
Maeve Saturday #8
dalton99a Saturday #9
Atticus Saturday #10
Hortensis Saturday #12
ecstatic Saturday #15
Mme. Defarge Saturday #16
Atticus Saturday #17
Blue_true Saturday #11
rusty quoin Saturday #13
C_U_L8R Saturday #14

Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:43 PM

1. he is a Racist coward !

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:45 PM

2. trump is #%@%&+!

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:46 PM

3. Every society determines what is legal, and what is considered moral as well.

If a person ignores these positions, and behaves contrary to them, that person might be called a criminal, or a sociopath.

In my view, Trump is a criminal and a sociopath.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:55 PM

5. My point is that I think journalists and pundits

are giving him a pass by applying a morally neutral label to him. They need to show some courage by stating the obvious, which is that his motives and actions are malevolent.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:57 PM

7. Agreed.

The US corporate media created the fiction of Trump the success, and now they maintain the fiction that there are 2 sides to the problem of Trump.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:54 PM

4. Yep, he's immoral.

He exhibits it, thrives on it, and deliberately strengthens it in others.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:56 PM

6. Merci mon ami(e)!

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:59 PM

8. I think they concentrate on the second def

He totally lacks moral sensibility, any sign of a moral compass and only mouths the word of 'right' or 'wrong'. He doesn't do 'moral considerations'; he wants what he wants when he wants it and that's all that is important to him, the center of his universe.

Granted that, I take your point.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:02 PM

9. He is malignant, malicious, malevolent

Clearly against any standard of morality or ethos

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:09 PM

10. Trump is the very definition of an AMORAL person! He is totally unconcerned about whether

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his actions are right or wrong. He is not neutral. He does not believe in right versus wrong or immoral versus moral. HE DOESN'T CARE! Those concepts are not relevant to his world. The only considerations governing his actions are "Will it benefit me?" and "Can I get away with it?"

An immoral person recognizes right and wrong and chooses to do wrong. An amoral person never ponders "right" or "wrong" because he doesn't believe in the concepts. He does as he pleases, period.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:26 PM

12. Yes. Trump's missing various pieces that normal human beings have.

It's very likely that he's among the roughly 1 out of 30 or more who do not have a conscience, for instance, or perhaps only a vestigial one that warns him of danger but without ability to feel guilt. He not only doesn't believe in right versus wrong but is almost certainly incapable of feeling what is right and wrong. He lacks the capability to understand and care about moral issues.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:44 PM

15. +1000. He's amoral and most (if not all) of his actions

tend to be immoral.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:49 PM

16. Donald Trump:

“I could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters”.

In my opinion, this statement would be meaningless if he didn’t know that shooting someone for any reason other than self-defense was wrong.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:58 PM

17. Knowing that others consider right and wrong is not the same thing as believing in the

relevance or importance of the concepts.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:20 PM

11. He is immoral as hell. Immoral and soulless are the right words to describe him. nt

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:38 PM

13. Well, I guess it really doesn't matter. He is guilty as shit.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:43 PM

14. Not amoral but a moron

How does this guy trip through life, one failure to the next? The trail of bankruptcy and corruption is nauseating. We know how it ends this time.... just like before. In ruin. At the hands of an idiot.

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