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Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:16 PM

If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people is the problem..


Anand Giridharadas

If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people and actually understands new technology is the problem with America, it may be that you are the problem with America.

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Reply If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people is the problem.. (Original post)
jodymarie aimee Jan 11 OP
brooklynite Jan 11 #1
jodymarie aimee Jan 11 #2
TreasonousBastard Jan 11 #3
brooklynite Jan 11 #16
BluesRunTheGame Jan 11 #18
msongs Jan 11 #21
KPN Jan 11 #23
Mr.Bill Jan 11 #26
BluesRunTheGame Jan 11 #31
KelleyKramer Jan 11 #59
KPN Jan 11 #22
R B Garr Jan 12 #63
Mr.Bill Jan 11 #27
Proud Veteran Jan 11 #32
EffieBlack Jan 11 #44
Mr.Bill Jan 11 #45
EffieBlack Jan 11 #46
Mr.Bill Jan 11 #48
Kurt V. Jan 11 #35
shanny Jan 11 #55
Bilegurken Jan 11 #37
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 11 #58
MrGrieves Jan 11 #61
SMC22307 Jan 11 #41
WeekiWater Jan 11 #4
Cuthbert Allgood Jan 11 #8
WeekiWater Jan 11 #10
Cuthbert Allgood Jan 11 #11
WeekiWater Jan 11 #14
Mr.Bill Jan 11 #29
Cuthbert Allgood Jan 11 #5
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 11 #6
Bilegurken Jan 11 #38
Autumn Jan 11 #17
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #30
FiveGoodMen Jan 11 #7
murielm99 Jan 11 #9
wasupaloopa Jan 11 #12
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #19
KPN Jan 11 #24
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #52
KPN Jan 12 #62
Demsrule86 Jan 12 #68
Ace Rothstein Jan 11 #25
mountain grammy Jan 11 #36
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #51
shanny Jan 11 #56
wasupaloopa Jan 11 #49
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #50
wasupaloopa Jan 12 #65
Demsrule86 Jan 12 #66
LongtimeAZDem Jan 11 #20
LongtimeAZDem Jan 11 #13
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #15
EffieBlack Jan 11 #40
Demsrule86 Jan 11 #53
EffieBlack Jan 11 #60
Demsrule86 Jan 12 #69
shanny Jan 11 #57
Demsrule86 Jan 12 #70
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #28
George II Jan 11 #33
nini Jan 12 #67
defacto7 Jan 11 #34
Kurt V. Jan 11 #39
DoctorJoJo Jan 11 #42
Kaleva Jan 12 #64
EffieBlack Jan 11 #43
griloco Jan 11 #47
shanny Jan 11 #54

Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:21 PM

1. Other than the small electorate in her safe district...

...what is the evidence that she "connects with people"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:25 PM

2. eyes and ears

for starters

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:28 PM

3. Wasn't it supposed to be "safe" for the guy she replaced? And...

look how fast she turned the dancing meme around.

She is someone to watch-- and be glad she's on our side.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:37 PM

16. It was...and consequently he stopped paying attention.

Turnout in her district was 50,000 lower than the competitive race in Staten Island

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:41 PM

18. 2.3 million Twitter followers.

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:54 PM

21. trump has 20 million per money.com

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Response to msongs (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:57 PM

23. So how many elected Dems match him? How many

exceed her?

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Response to msongs (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:14 PM

26. Is that including the ones at the Russian bot farm? n/t

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Response to msongs (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:27 PM

31. She's been in Congress for 1 week and was unknown a few months ago.

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Response to msongs (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:02 PM

59. apples + oranges equals strawman

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:55 PM

22. Isn't there quite a bit right here at DU?

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Response to KPN (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:11 AM

63. Thanks for confirming that these threads are about

talking about DUers.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:18 PM

27. Just ask anyone (even here) how many

freshmen Congresspeople they can name without Googling.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:40 PM

32. Freshman Congresswomen without Googling

Admit that I know of only a few freshman and they are all women. Besides AOC, their is Shalala and Davids.Plus the three from Michigan, Slotkin,Stevens,and my personal favorite MFer from my district Tlaib.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:57 PM

44. If they can't, they should be ashamed for being so ill-informed

and for only paying attention to the one getting the most national press.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #44)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:00 PM

45. The average person in this country

can't name their own congressional representative. Nor could they answer half the questions on the citizenship test.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #45)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:04 PM

46. I wasn't just referring to the "average" person - I was also referring to the DUers

you referenced.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:19 PM

48. I understand.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:11 PM

35. in other words, you are the problem

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:50 PM

55. ---

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:23 PM

37. If she is such a non-figure

why is the right and the dem establishment attacking her? Where is the evidence that she should be assailed for her positions?

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Response to Bilegurken (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

58. Ding, ding, ding!! We hava winna!!

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Response to Bilegurken (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:56 PM

61. Pardon me.... Who is the "Dem Establishment" that is "Attacking Her"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:31 PM

41. I feel "connected" to her...

and I'm an oldish suburban white lady living a couple of states away.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:30 PM

4. Not very deep.

That said, not only are there bigger fish to fry, she shouldn’t even be in the pan. She won’t be once the media finds a new person to stoke the flames of division.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:32 PM

8. So she has no talent or ability?

She seems like she knows what's going on.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:33 PM

10. Who said she has no talent or ability?

I’m sure someone did. Wasn’t me.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:35 PM

11. Well, break it down for me, then.

"...she shouldn’t even be in the pan. She won’t be once the media finds a new person to stoke the flames of division."

Why shouldn't she be getting attention? Why do you argue the only reason people care about her is because of false division?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM

14. Ok. I'll let you stick with the thought she should be in the frying pan.

Run with it.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:19 PM

29. Don't forget Rachel Maddow used to be

a bartender, too.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:30 PM

5. And quotes Alan Moore




For those without Twitter:
To quote Alan Moore: “None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.” 🤣


I mean, I think I couldn't like her any more, and then she does something like this.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:32 PM

6. politico's purpose is to divide

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:24 PM

38. Absolutely

They have essentially become a "fox lite" publication.

Why bother reading it? If the political junkies stopped going to that site, ad revenue would dry up. I would suggest a rolling boycott of that place.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:39 PM

17. "You can not rein in Latinas" "New party, who dis? "

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:22 PM

30. "cannot rein in Latinas" is a prejudiced statement, just not bigotted.


It's a kind of supremacy ploy (Cristobal Alex ploy) that we would find objectionable coming out of a white guy's mouth. "You just can't rein in white guys. They rein you in."

A O-C will be reined in. If she is as smart as she appears to be so far, she will rein herself in and marshal her forces more effectively than trying to be loudly radical about everything everywhere every time with everybody. She is creating the impression that she just wants to be noticed, which is a bad impression to create while she backs some good ideas that could use support. Not good strategy. But it did work for the Moscow Agent Governing America, so who knows but I do know that as a group statistically Democrats and progressives work well with substance and facts, better than the opposition.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:32 PM

7. Amen to that!

I hope our party is listening!

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:33 PM

9. What people? n/t

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM

12. She is very refreshing. It is nice to hear other voices rather than those demanding conformity.

We had a saying in the 60's, "bug the bourgeois."

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:41 PM

19. I would say that justice Democrats demand conformity...and this primarying BS needs to stop.

Go after Republicans not Democrats in Democratic districts...waste of time and money. And I am not from the 60's but was watching a CNN show about the 60's the other day...and those non-conformist pretty much all looked alike.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:00 PM

24. I would guess justice democrats see it rxavtly

the reverse. Strikes me that way.

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Response to KPN (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:45 PM

52. I see nothing good in justice Democrats....they are Democrats? ha

I can't abide Cent and will never forgive him for 2016. They take money from Republicans and it shows.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #52)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:26 AM

62. I understand. Never found Cenk to be

legitimate in the first place, but he’s one person.

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Response to KPN (Reply #62)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:54 PM

68. I find them horrible. They played a role in our 16 loss...and hate Democrats in my opinion.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:02 PM

25. No

Going after Democrats in safe Democratic districts is how the party gets pulled to the left.

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Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:23 PM

36. Yes thank you

For answering that.

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Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:44 PM

51. No it is how the party loses...we live in a center left country...much of our success was in red and

purple districts...move to far left and we lose. And sometimes the general can be lost.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #51)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:53 PM

56. oh so we lost that district?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:36 PM

49. Yes they looked alike. Is that bad?

They were a minority and identified with each other by looking alike and read the same literature listened to the same music and hung around together.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:42 PM

50. It just always struck me as odd that non-conformist have to conform too...

What you describe is conforming and of course those who didn't meet the standards were no doubt marginalized...sometimes I envision a world where you can just be who you want but it never seems to happen. Social norms were enforced just as viciously no doubt by the counter culture as within the 'square' culture. But I was not present and not part of it.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #50)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:32 PM

65. You start out using the word nonconformist then you build a case based on a word.

Just drop the word nonconformist and discuss what they were about. It wasn't about nonconformity. It was doing something, it was action, it was building a movement. It was change. It was about turning the norms on their head. It was about bringing in a new and better word. It was listening to your inner self. It was doing what you thought you should do without caring what others taught you.

It was about a new freedom and a desire to be and share with others who felt and thought the same way, thus the identity in dress and music and thought.

It wasn't about not being something, it was about being something new.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #65)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:47 PM

66. But in the creating of the movement new norms were created...is my point. I am not saying it was bad

or anything close to it. But there seem to be something in humans that breeds conformity even in the midst of revolution.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:49 PM

20. And then we electced Nixon, twice, abandoned Carter, and then voted in Reagan twice and then Bush.

So, that worked well.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM

13. Her backing group wants to target Democrats in vulnerable districts; if she doesn't denounce that,

then she is part of the problem. We don't need people who do the Republican's dirty work for them.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:37 PM

15. You all should just stop...I don't dislike the young lady...but kind of sick of hearing

about her...she is a newbie...let her be for a while...she needs some (years) experience before she can assume a leadership position. I think she shows promise. But let it go. I was going to trash her name but kind of enjoy hearing from her. The dance thing was awesome. I honestly think (not you) some of her supporters will cause her trouble if they continue to attempt to shove this talented young lady down people's throats...as time goes by, most will like her just fine.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:31 PM

40. +1,000

As I've said, I hope she's savvy and focused enough not to get herself caught up in the increasingly breathless hype created by some of her more adoring fans, many of whom behave more like a cult than a constituency.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #40)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:47 PM

53. Sometimes fans can be a hindrance...

I see Democrats looking for a savior...Beto, Bernie...etc. We must save ourselves.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #53)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:53 PM

60. And, unfortunately, some fans become so devoted and protective,

they assume their idol is the only true savior and alienate others by attacking anyone who doesn't agree and join their cool kids club.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #60)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:01 PM

69. There is no savior...and when Democrats stopn looking for one in AOC, Sanders, Beto, and roll

up their sleeves and elect Democrats in presidential years and mid-terms, our party and the country will prosper.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:55 PM

57. isn't there a trash keyword function?

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Response to shanny (Reply #57)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:05 PM

70. I have considered that but I like to read news about AOC. She is impressive, and I find her

interesting. I just can't stand the posts that gush -not the news stuff...positively nauseating...not saying any of your posts are like this or pointing fingers at anyone... they have right to post what they choose...I do think it could hurt AOC if we are not careful and that would be a shame.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:18 PM

28. You have no link/context. The premise as posited in the OP is NOT the issue.


I can guess at who the "freshMAN congressWOMAN" might be (disregarding the discombobulated choice of words), but I really can't be sure or say.

Without a link or context, I don't know what was said or written. I don't know if his premise has been miss-stated in the OP or not.

In any case, connecting with people is most certainly not considered a problem by anyone. Go ahead and flabbergast me if you can.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:42 PM

33. Jahana Hayes? Sharice Davids? Katie Hill?

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Response to George II (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:51 PM

67. Perfect

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:51 PM

34. I'm still closely watching and waiting...

But I don't care if she connects with people, I don't care if she's popular, I don't care if she's entertaining, I don't care if she is technologically savvy. A lot of people fit that criteria good and bad. All I want to know is if she can do her job, and that waits to be seen. I have no way of knowing at this point.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:24 PM

39. I'm more than tired of minority rule.

Different players, with different motivations say we the people mean nothing.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:47 PM

42. My Experience Is That Very Little Is Learned While Running One's Mouth

She needs to listen more and learn a LOT more!

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Response to DoctorJoJo (Reply #42)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:35 AM

64. Do you follow your own advice?

I don''t agree with your argument that people who post little here or just recently joined should be quiet.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:54 PM

43. Lots of new female Members are connecting with people

Like her:

And her:


And her:


And them:

?s=19

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:18 PM

47. I love it when silly Republican tweeters get A-OCked

Nt

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:49 PM

54. Amen.

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