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Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:44 AM

Bernie Sanders Faces Questions About Political Future

Jan. 11, 2019, at 1:14 a.m.

BY STEVE PEOPLES, Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) ó Allies of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are rallying behind the embattled presidential prospect, even as they reluctantly begin to ponder a painful possibility: a 2020 presidential field without him.

The 77-year-old self-described democratic socialist is the most prominent presidential contender to face a serious setback in the nascent 2020 campaign season. He's been forced to confront a series of reports detailing allegations of sexual harassment of women by male staffers when he ran for president in 2016.

Sanders' loyalists fully expect him to launch a second campaign in the coming weeks. And his broad network of die-hard supporters is hosting hundreds of events across the nation this weekend encouraging him to run.

But the persistent allegations put Sanders in an unenviable political position in the early days of a presidential contest playing out in a #MeToo era that's offered little mercy for those associated with allegations of sexual harassment. While his Democratic competitors tour crucial states and scope out potential campaign headquarters, Sanders spent Thursday apologizing for the behavior of a handful of his 2016 staffers and looking for a new ones to run his 2020 operation should he enter the race.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-01-11/bernie-sanders-faces-questions-about-political-future

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Reply Bernie Sanders Faces Questions About Political Future (Original post)
TexasTowelie Jan 11 OP
Cha Jan 11 #1
fleabiscuit Jan 11 #2
ehrnst Jan 11 #18
Cha Jan 11 #28
Hortensis Saturday #46
Cha Saturday #47
Hortensis Saturday #49
jrthin Jan 11 #26
Cha Jan 11 #32
Blue_true Jan 11 #37
Cha Jan 11 #43
SunSeeker Jan 11 #3
Control-Z Jan 11 #4
herding cats Jan 11 #5
ehrnst Jan 11 #9
NewJeffCT Jan 11 #14
ehrnst Jan 11 #15
Cha Jan 11 #33
GulfCoast66 Jan 11 #41
Blue_true Jan 11 #38
betsuni Jan 11 #6
lapucelle Jan 11 #7
ehrnst Jan 11 #10
kcr Jan 11 #13
ehrnst Jan 11 #16
Cha Jan 11 #24
NastyRiffraff Saturday #54
ehrnst Jan 11 #8
Cha Jan 11 #22
Eliot Rosewater Jan 11 #30
Hortensis Saturday #48
LexVegas Jan 11 #11
NurseJackie Jan 11 #25
jrthin Jan 11 #27
yardwork Jan 11 #12
NurseJackie Jan 11 #17
Apollyonus Jan 11 #19
disillusioned73 Jan 11 #20
Apollyonus Jan 11 #21
GulfCoast66 Jan 11 #42
George II Jan 11 #23
Eliot Rosewater Jan 11 #31
GulfCoast66 Jan 11 #44
R B Garr Jan 11 #34
NastyRiffraff Jan 11 #29
R B Garr Jan 11 #35
Cha Saturday #45
R B Garr Saturday #55
Cha Saturday #58
comradebillyboy Saturday #52
R B Garr Saturday #56
ProudLib72 Jan 11 #36
Blue_true Jan 11 #39
ProudLib72 Jan 11 #40
ehrnst Saturday #50
LongtimeAZDem Saturday #53
KPN Saturday #51
TexasTowelie Saturday #57
Cha Saturday #59

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:51 AM

1. And, was "too busy" to know.

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:57 AM

2. +1

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:48 AM

18. He was not too busy to fly to Rome. (nt)

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:13 PM

28. The "micromanger".

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Response to Cha (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:21 AM

46. All his staffers said he's a micromanager.

The decision maker.

My biggest question is why anyone who believes in government by the people would consider for a moment a candidate who's proven himself to be as ready as the right to overset the votes of many millions of Democrats in order to win.

Imo, we all have a duty to remember that before deciding if he's the right stuff.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #46)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:31 AM

47. I've seen the tweets.. they're so

proud of him for being such a "micromanger".

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Response to Cha (Reply #47)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:43 AM

49. :) Me too, and I've read post-election articles

that were far less complimentary. No one likes their abilities to be undervalued, and some finally took the chance to vent. No sympathy from me, though, knowing at least some of what they supported and enabled.

Speaking of, they're NOT leaking what they know about their former coworker, Tad Devine, and his activities in the campaign.

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:53 PM

26. +1000

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Response to jrthin (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:58 PM

32. Thank You, jrthin!

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

37. He showed grossly poor leadership.

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He claimed fairness and opportunity for women were two of his core campaign principles. I have never worked in a successful company where core principles were not driven into everyone's skull and people told that violations of those principles must be brought before the top leader in the company.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:59 PM

43. Excellent points, Blue_true.. Thank You!

I claimed fairness and opportunity for women were two of his core campaign principles. I have never worked in a successful company where core principles were not driven into everyone's skull and people told that violations of those principles must be brought before the top leader in the company.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:04 AM

3. K & R

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:19 AM

4. A handful of his 2016 staffers?

A handful? Damn. He's got a lot of splaining to do.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:34 AM

5. Oh, I thinks he wants to run, and likely will.

He's an elderly senator with little to nothing to lose personally. This is his last chance and he has a following.

I've been there and done that with 3 different presidential candidates now in my adult life. The only one I gave a second chance to was Edwards... we all know how that turned out. I still suffer acid reflux when I think of it.

I know a lot about two of our potential candidates this cycle. To the extent I've spoken to them one on one. I'm learning more daily about our other potential and declared candidates. I'm taking it slow and fleshing out and vetting my candidates for 2020. I'm going to be an extremely hard sell.



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Response to herding cats (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:26 AM

9. Those cheering crowds college students are very hard to give up, I imagine.

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But Ralph Nader got over it, and he had a long career still ahead of him.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:33 AM

14. I think the cheering college students

are going to go for Beto O'Rourke this time around. Yes, O'Rourke is more moderate than Bernie, but he has the "cool" factor to him - punk rocker, skateboarder, etc.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:39 AM

15. Well, Beto needs to be sure to always book a hall very near a campus.

That ensures a young, enegetic, higher income, loud crowd with a flexible schedule for an audience.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:14 PM

33. Plus Beto is smart, compassionate, and courageous.

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Response to Cha (Reply #33)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:54 PM

41. And a member of the Democratic Party

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:17 PM

38. Or Senator Warren, did you see the age range in her Iowa crowds?

Lots of young people, as many as any other group.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:17 AM

6. K&R

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:44 AM

7. It's surprising to hear the reactions of some of BS's prominent supporters.

"If he doesn't run, there's a massive void in this country," said RoseAnn DeMoro, an activist and former executive director of the National Nurses United union, who reiterated her support for Sanders. "The passion in that base goes away. That base evaporates. It doesn't go to someone else. There would be a void so deep it would go to (President Donald) Trump, I suspect."

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"Obviously, it's impacted all of us quite a bit. It's very upsetting," said Heather Gautney, executive director of Our Revolution, the political arm of Sanders' network.

Despite her concern, Gautney warned Democrats that a 2020 contest without Sanders would inflict serious damage on ambitious plans to shake up health care, education, housing and other liberal priorities.

"Bernie is holding the flank on the left. If he doesn't run for president, then the whole horizon shifts, and universal health care maybe gets taken off the table," Gautney said. "In my view, he is an absolutely necessary part of our political system."




By the way, Ms Gautney needs to brush up on the Democratic Party platform and history. Univeral healthcare has been core principle and party policy goal since 1992. John Conyers's Medicare for All Bill HR 676, introduced in every session of Congress since 2003. had 132 co-sponsors at last count. While Congressman Sanders wasn't an original co-sponsor when it was first introduced 16 years ago, he did get on board quickly.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:27 AM

10. Universal health care is in the Democratic platform. I wish those people at OR would read it.

It won't blind them...

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:22 AM

13. That's sad

They seriously sound like they need deprogramming.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:40 AM

16. The HR person on the 2016 campaign is savaging the staffers that blew the whistle. (nt)

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:39 PM

24. ...

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:00 PM

54. It's not so surprising

if we keep in mind that they are a cult. Like all cultists, they literally think their hero is the savior of the world, and nobody else can do it.

That base evaporates. It doesn't go to someone else. There would be a void so deep it would go to (President Donald) Trump, I suspect."
--RoseAnn DeMoro

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:23 AM

8. Now that he's starting to be truly vetted, things look different.

Not the case last time around.

Being held to the same standards as other candidates is a new test.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:24 PM

22. About time.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:22 PM

30. Imagine if...oops, cant go there

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:33 AM

48. Exactly! Not that the NYT or any others have reformed.

Sanders is no longer "new," though. So others who are new will get the pop media glossing and pumping up, and Sanders will get more of the negative "been there, covered that" treatment.

My concern is that much may still be ignored to keep him useful for defeating Democrats. That was his role for both our own right-wing powers and for Putin before, and they're still using him that way.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:27 AM

11. He's done. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:44 PM

25. The kid gloves are off! I think that he's in for quite a surprise...

The kid gloves are off! I think that he's in for quite a surprise at how different things will be this time, and how much more difficult it will be when the real and extreme vetting begins. All I'm saying is that I believe that ALL candidates for national office should be carefully scrutinized from all angles... for many obvious reasons that I don't have time to go into now.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:55 PM

27. I hope you are right.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:31 AM

12. Not just "a handful of his former staffers."

Bernie apologized for sexual assault committed by of one of his most important staffers, the man who led Bernie's field campaigns in key states. Bernie also claimed that he only just learned of a monetary settlement his campaign made to two staffers who were apparently abused by this same campaign leader.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:42 AM

17. I think the smart decision would be for him to, if possible, just serve out his term and retire.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:25 AM

19. He was definitely too busy

to copy his tax returns and hand them to the media.

I mean ... give the guy a break!

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Response to Apollyonus (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:57 AM

20. Welvome to DU..

You are gonna love this place..

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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:51 AM

21. ty kindly

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Response to Apollyonus (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:57 PM

42. And fit in well!

Welcome. Once you feel at home look into getting a star.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:29 PM

23. This is a scandal that is not going to go away. Actually it's a two-pronged scandal:

1. Sexual harassment and abuse.
2. Blatant income inequality.

Either of them alone would be enough to destroy a Democrat's candidacy. But two?

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Response to George II (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:23 PM

31. Then we will need a new leader for universal healthcare, protecting the environment, etc.

Beto works for me, or Kamala.


Not that the other person was a leader in this, but some saw him that way so we will need a new leader.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #31)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:59 PM

44. Since both of those were in our last platform.

I think many will do. Universal healthcare does not mean Medicare for all.

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Response to George II (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:32 PM

34. +1, Yes, this is not going away. What's so absolutely outrageous

is how our nominee was maligned in so many ways and with no proof while all this was going on.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:17 PM

29. He's going to be seriously vetted this time

As he should have been last time. I just hope the Democratic Party doesn't let him pull the same stunt as in 2016: become a temporary pretend Democrat to get media attention and of course Party resources. It's not fair to real Democrats, and it looks like we have a nice, deep bench for 2020 if they choose to run.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #29)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:02 PM

35. Exactly. People shouldn't miss Liza Treyger on Ari Melber's show

on the FallBackFriday segment. She completely nails Bernie. She was scathing about the unequal pay and campaign abuse. He will be seriously vetted!

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:15 AM

45. Oh wow.. Good to know!

People shouldn't miss Liza Treyger on Ari Melber's show on the FallBackFriday segment. She completely nails Bernie. She was scathing about the unequal pay and campaign abuse. He will be seriously vetted!

Thank You for that, RB!

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Response to Cha (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:07 PM

55. Glad you liked it, Cha! It's easy to Google and I

didnít want to link.....

But she was excellent. People wonít tolerate the lack of accountability anymore.

Good to see you, Cha!

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #55)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:04 PM

58. A nice person sent me

the youtube in a PM from seeing this exchange.

I just saw it! omg.. Fantastic! She hit it out of the park!

Good to see you, too.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:18 AM

52. The look on Melber's face during Liza's rant

was priceless.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #52)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:13 PM

56. Yes, it was priceless! I liked how he nodded his head when

she started.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:11 PM

36. How many will refuse to vote if he isn't on the ballot?

Or write his name in? 2016 all over again. It never ends with zealots.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:21 PM

39. We can plan for that.

Remember around 40% of voters did not vote, even if it was only 20% and the other 20% wrote in Bernie, if we get 20% of that 20%, our candidate wins, my guess is our candidate gets 100% of the ones that vote, lots of them are getting their ass burned by Trump.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

40. Remember all the blaming and ill will toward HRC after the primaries?

All because the Bernie Bros felt cheated? And Bernie tried to rally his base to support HRC, but they weren't having it. Just the simple fact of him throwing his hat into the ring is dangerous as hell. Suppose this time around he gets rejected right off the bat. His base will be furious. Suppose he isn't rejected right away but gets primaried. His base will be furious. The only way I can see keeping his base somewhat mollified is for him not to run at all. I'm sorry, but if he wanted to truly support the Democratic party, he would not run again.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:00 AM

50. +1000

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

53. There's less of a chance of that if he doen't run. Once he's in, you're right. /nt

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:08 AM

51. OFFS TexasT -- this again?

Bernieís gonna run. Get over it. Will he win? I doubt it especially with the organized torpedoing going on daily.

But heís going to run.



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Response to KPN (Reply #51)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:07 PM

57. I already know that Sanders is going to run.

That was evident to me since the general election in 2016 so I don't have anything to "get over." It's an article from the AP, so if I hadn't posted the thread then someone else would. I don't believe in censorship.

If anything, Bernie now has a set of obstacles that he will need to "get over." I still haven't seen anything from Bernie that will attract new voters while his base has diminished based upon responses at DU and on other social media.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #57)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:06 PM

59. Yes! Mahalo, TexasT!

Cheers!

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