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Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:23 AM

"I may lose the farm, but I strongly feel we need some border security"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/farmers-trump-administration.html

Farm Country Stood by Trump. But the Shutdown Is Pushing It to Breaking Point.
By Jack Healy and Tyler Pager
Jan. 10, 2019

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Farm country has stood by President Trump, even as farmers have strained under two years of slumping incomes and billions in losses from his trade wars. But as the government shutdown now drags into a third week, some farmers say the loss of crucial loans, payments and other services has pushed them — and their support — to a breaking point.

While many rural conservatives may loathe the idea of Big Government, farmers and the federal government are welded together by dozens of programs and billions of dollars in spending.

Now, farmers and farm groups say that federal crop payments have stopped flowing. Farmers cannot get federally backed operating loans to buy seed for their spring planting, or feed for their livestock. They cannot look up new government data about beef prices or soybean yields to make decisions about planting and selling their goods in an ever-changing global market.

“This is real,” said Jeff Witte, president of the National Association of State Departments of Agriculture and New Mexico’s agriculture secretary. “You had farmers who were in the process of closing a loan or getting an operating loan. Now there’s nobody there to service those.”

All week, Joe Schroeder has been listening to shutdown stories pouring into Farm Aid’s hotline. There was the cotton farmer who could not get disaster assistance to help him recover from Hurricane Michael. The woman in her 90s facing foreclosure on her family farm. The dairy farmer trying to make one last attempt to renegotiate her loan with the Farm Service Agency.

“You cannot reach anybody,” Mr. Schroeder said.

Mr. Trump is expected to address a largely friendly audience on Monday at the American Farm Bureau’s annual convention. Many farmers, including David Nunnery, 59, of Pike County, Miss., have stayed unflinchingly loyal to Mr. Trump and his demands for $5.7 billion for a border wall, even as the shutdown threatens their livelihood.

“I may lose the farm, but I strongly feel we need some border security,” Mr. Nunnery said.

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Reply "I may lose the farm, but I strongly feel we need some border security" (Original post)
dalton99a Jan 11 OP
SHRED Jan 11 #1
NurseJackie Jan 11 #29
agingdem Jan 11 #30
Cha Jan 11 #2
AJT Jan 11 #3
JI7 Jan 11 #4
Solly Mack Jan 11 #5
violetpastille Jan 11 #15
ooky Jan 11 #17
Solly Mack Jan 11 #20
handmade34 Jan 11 #34
Solly Mack Jan 11 #38
muntrv Jan 11 #45
Onyrleft Jan 11 #6
Mariana Jan 11 #47
dweller Jan 11 #7
ProudLib72 Jan 11 #8
Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 11 #9
betsuni Jan 11 #10
TexasBushwhacker Jan 11 #11
Flaleftist Jan 11 #12
Caliman73 Jan 11 #13
nini Jan 11 #14
Wellstone ruled Jan 11 #16
duforsure Jan 11 #18
Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 11 #41
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 11 #19
llmart Jan 11 #25
ananda Jan 11 #21
MrScorpio Jan 11 #22
UniteFightBack Jan 11 #23
Brawndo Jan 11 #26
BSdetect Jan 11 #24
handmade34 Jan 11 #37
anarch Jan 11 #27
SammyWinstonJack Jan 11 #28
Mr. Quackers Jan 11 #31
In It to Win It Jan 11 #32
hatrack Jan 11 #33
The Genealogist Jan 11 #35
jpak Jan 11 #36
Freethinker65 Jan 11 #39
LonePirate Jan 11 #40
Hoyt Jan 11 #42
muntrv Jan 11 #43
JDC Jan 11 #44
Tribalceltic Jan 11 #46
ck4829 Jan 11 #48
lilactime Jan 11 #49

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:26 AM

1. I can't feel sorry

I'm sorry.
These people are blinded by their racist hatred.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:43 AM

29. Neither can I. They aren't the innocent ones. They're complicit. Let them suffer.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:45 AM

30. how dumb are they?!

who the hell do they think works their fields for almost no pay and lousy living conditions...those very desperate people the racist morons are trying to keep out..

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:27 AM

2. Masochists.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:27 AM

3. Some people are lost.

Hope that keeping children in cages makes you feel safe at the cost of your farm.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:28 AM

4. fuck these people. hypocrites propped up by welfare . bigoted piece of shits.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:28 AM

5. Wow

Either he is in no real danger of losing his farm or he's an idiot.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:02 AM

15. +1

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:30 AM

17. For sure, really hard to believe someone would say that.

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Response to ooky (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:01 AM

20. No one who fears that kind of loss is that cavalier about it.

Unless they are idiots or die hard true believers - which makes them scary.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:52 AM

34. I always like to see

who is getting subsidies when there is talk of farms... just because I can

David Glen Nunnery received payments totaling $285,548 in the past 20 years

https://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php?custnumber=A05002601

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:55 AM

38. Ha! Thanks! Figures.

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:19 AM

45. Pike County Mississippi is nowhere near the Mexican border.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:29 AM

6. "Although I do not understand I know my god is good"

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Response to Onyrleft (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:55 AM

47. I wonder if his church is one of the many

that preach that Trump is God's chosen man to be President, and as such can do no wrong.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:30 AM

7. so... we'll starve to death

collectively 😑

sigh,
✌🏼️

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:30 AM

8. Just like my dear old granpappy used to say in times like these

WHOMP WHOMP!

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:37 AM

9. Kiss the farm g'bye then man.

We HAVE Border Security in like 5 redundant agencies. To say otherwise is ridiculous. I wonder if this guy isnt some stupe/dupe planted to lead the sheep. Farmers get subsidies and they cry about other stuff. Everybody is important. farmers, teachers, burger flippers. nobody has better title to the promise of America.
If this farmer cares so much about border security...hows he feel about trum importing illegals BLATANTLY? This farmer raises an eyebrow for me.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:41 AM

10. Obligatory:


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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:43 AM

11. Well, he may not use undocumented workers

but many farmers do. Over half of all agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. If they want people to quit coming here illegally, employers shpuld quit hiring them.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:43 AM

12. People who live nowhere near the border are more afraid

of immigrants than people who literally live on the border.

Good job, Fox News.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:46 AM

13. They have more to fear from corporate agriculture who wants to fuck them off their land.

Yet he is worried about immigrants who actually prop up the agriculture industry by providing hard working low paid laborers.

I do not want to wish ill on anyone but let the chips fall where they may on this guy. Democrats cannot give in on that stupid wall.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:59 AM

14. I don't care

Do you?

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:06 AM

16. Sad to say,those Farmers that are Dem Voters are

in this same mess. And we are only hearing about those Rethug Farmer voters.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:37 AM

18. Remember 2015 President Obama

Asked Congress for more funds for border security, and Mitch and republicans refused. trump hires illegals at his properties, issues fake green cards to them , and does no background checks, but claims they are causing a crisis. HE pushes the putin plan by promoting dis-information , all false claims, to incite his followers with, then do like he did with the birther issue, repeats it over and over again. He repeats his lie he wants you to believe the most. If he's allowed to create make believe crisis , he'll use that as a weapon against us all in time. Just like putin did in russia. This isn't about a wall , its about gaining power he doesn't have , yet.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:12 AM

41. +1

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:15 AM

19. They loathe the idea of big government?

Clearly they haven't a clue that they are among the blue-ribbon recipients of the benefits of big government. They should only have to live under the system they think should be in place. They'd be starving in the streets.

I so despise the ignorance and the hypocrisy.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:37 AM

25. Republicans are typically the type who think they deserve government assistance.

They see no hypocrisy in their thought process because they feel entitled because they are white. Their anti-government stance only applies to those "others".

I remember the story about Timothy McVeigh's partner in the Oklahoma federal building bombing, Terry Nichols and his brother, who live in Northern Michigan and who had received federal subsidies for their farm for years. Yet they were anti-government which gave them the notion of killing innocent people and tiny children for their whacked out belief system.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:04 AM

21. What's happened to our farmers is truly tragic!!!

Most of them appear to be batshit crazy and reallyreallyreally stupid!

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:18 AM

22. They were warned.

They were all warned.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:23 AM

23. I thought this was a joke at first. I have no words that this guy is ok with losing his FUCKING

FARM over NOTHING. Ok then...you buddy got exactly what YOU voted for.

Just like a Republican...wanting all the free stuff with their hands out.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:38 AM

26. I'll happily take up farming

just to watch them starve for their "beliefs"

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:36 AM

24. Drumph will buy your bankrupt farm using russian money. All is good.

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:54 AM

37. more like

the Russians will buy it directly... because they can

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:40 AM

27. hmm..."I was worried for my children's safety, so I drowned them in the tub..."

to make sure they don't get hurt. Perfectly logical.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:40 AM

28. Ugh.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:45 AM

31. Stupid, evil racists

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:47 AM

32. I loathe Big Government except when I'm receiving my welfare and federal loans

Cry me a river!

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:51 AM

33. Herp derp herp derp herp derp herp derp herp derp herp derp . . . .

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:53 AM

35. What I hear in that Nunnery quote

I'm willing to lose my farm if it keeps out rown people. More concerned with keeping America white than how he going to survive.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:54 AM

36. Womp Womp

Too bad

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:55 AM

39. But why should farmers who disagree with Nunnery lose their farms too?

If Nunnery wants to sacrifice so Trump can enrich himself he can donate his estate to Trump, Trump's spawn, some anti-minority PAC, the GOP, etc.

Trump's arbitrary tariffs trying to bully US trading partners have little to do with border security. They have only slightly something to do with US economic security and mostly are in place to please Trump's ego to show Trump has power to fuck people over on the world stage if he does not get what he wants.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:56 AM

40. Nunnery has spent too much time in the sun if he thinks we need more border security.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:13 AM

42. A National Monument to Hatred is more important to some of these white wingers.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:14 AM

43. No sympathy for them. They brought that on themselves by voting for Benedict Donald.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:17 AM

44. At the risk of being callus, F him and his farm.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:49 AM

46. Stupid is as stupid does!

An idiot like this does not deserve a farm.. It is God's will

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:56 AM

48. Even if they lose the farm, it's not like they'd blame Trump anyway

Blame the ____ (Group of the day that had no say over you losing your farm)

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:00 AM

49. The Trump voter in a nutshell.

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