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Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:59 PM

Laurence Tribe's LEGAL predictions re: Trump and "Emergency" declaration to build the wall




See his interview with Katy Tur here:






For those who can not see embedded tweets:
Laurence Tribe
‏Verified account @tribelaw
10h10 hours ago

Hereís the scoop legally:
1. Trump illegally declares emergency, claims power to build wall with tax $ appropriated for other uses only.
2. Courts say itís premature to block POTUS till he DOES something.
3. Trump signs bill opening government & claims victory
4. No wall.
QED

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:01 PM

1. Too subtle and nuanced

Also, Trump leaves the arena without WALL, and that's unacceptable to his masters (in this instance, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter).

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:02 PM

2. To think it is not going to be tied up in legal challenges for years, is unrealistic, IMO.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:04 PM

3. Agreed.. then add to that.

5. Trump orders construction of the wall.
6. Dems sue.
7. Tied up in the courts then ends up at SCOTUS.
8. SCOTUS rules against Trump.
9. No wall.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:05 PM

4. I'll defer to Prof. Tribe.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:14 PM

5. Having trouble with...

Ö step 3 to 4. I can't imagine this "victory" satisfying the Limbaugh crowd.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:23 PM

6. When his hands are tied by court challenges which will drag on for years, what exactly do you

expect him to do to satisfy Limbutt and Ann the a'hole? Hell, there have been eminent domain lawsuits underway since the early 2000s along Texas border that have never been settled.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:40 PM

8. Expect trump to do what putin tells him to do?

Don't recall immediately, any time he went against putin.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:42 PM

9. yeah, yeah, yeah.. but the question was what he was going to do to appease his base..

Putin just wants chaos and Trump has obliged.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:45 PM

10. trump will hope that putiin's 'suggestion' will appease his base

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Response to empedocles (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:52 PM

13. Look, I don't doubt Trump is puppet to Putin on many issues, but EXACTLY what "suggestion"

are you asserting that Putin is making? Putin doesn't give a damn about the border or a wall or anything except tying us up in knots so that he can do as he pleases in the Ukraine and elsewhere.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:00 PM

14. I am suggesting that putin seens to come before anything else with trump. trump's

border wall hangup is tying up the government, victims, and the country in general - 'in knots' and putin likes that. You may remember a recent thread on DU noting the Russian media pride in trump screwing things up in the US.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:04 PM

15. As I stated repeatedly.. But you are suggesting that Putin has a specific issue that outweighs

Trump's base influence e.g., Limbaugh and Ann Coulter ilck. It is the latter that got Trump to flip flop yet again.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:13 PM

18. I agree the 'ilk' seemed to get trump to flip flop again.

I was suggesting that putin seems more important than anything else to trump, and that fear of bothering putin would be trump's first and most important reference point. My use of the word 'suggestion' was not meant to be a wry way of implying a specific order, but more of a general putin preference. I think putin likes the way trump is 'tying the US in knots' over this wall 'metaphor'. Amen.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:38 PM

7. Well he can say I tried everything

But the courts blocked me.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:47 PM

11. he can just tell them The Wall is built

What are they gonna do, go drive down there and look for themselves? If a few do, he can just say they were at the invisible parts, made out of the same materials that they use for the F-35. Best Wall Ever!

As long as he gets to wet his beak from the $5.7B, it's all good...

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Response to anarch (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:50 PM

12. Yep.

He's already said over and over again that it's built and/or being built which has been debunked over and over again, but of course his stupid base believes whatever they hear on Faux News and whatever the orange asshole says.

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Response to anarch (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:07 PM

16. Yes, that is true...

Ö FOX will report it.., they've implied, already, the wall is being built. They reported the weapons of mass destruction had been found. I just wonder of the "ditto heads" will go along...

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:09 PM

17. they'll do whatever they're told

they are authoritarians; they like to be told what to do, and what to think. It's their thing.

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