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Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:04 AM

Don Jr. May Have Gone to Prague, Not Michael Cohen

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Ever since the Steele Dossier was published Michael Cohen has denied that he has ever been in or near Prague in the Czech Republic. But most people thought he was lying.

This week McClatchey reported that there is convincing evidence that his cell phone was used near Prague in 2016, so we thought this was proof that Cohen has been lying all along about the Prague visit.

But now there is speculation that Cohen is telling the truth. The thinking is that he himself was not in or near Prague in 2016, but someone else from the Trump campaign was there with one of his cell phones.
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And Ivana’s father lived near Prague and was visited by Don Jr. many times during his childhood. So for Don Jr. to visit Prague would not be surprising or suspicious, since he has been going there his whole life.




Check out the rest, here, which lays down a plausible claim that Traitor Tot usd Cohen's burner phone.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/29/don-jr-may-have-gone-to-prague-not-michael-cohen.html

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Reply Don Jr. May Have Gone to Prague, Not Michael Cohen (Original post)
TheBlackAdder Dec 29 OP
Renew Deal Dec 29 #1
empedocles Dec 29 #2
TheBlackAdder Dec 29 #3
OliverQ Dec 29 #5
OliverQ Dec 29 #4
Adrahil Dec 29 #6
calimary Dec 29 #7
WhiteTara Dec 29 #8
TheBlackAdder Dec 29 #9
WhiteTara Dec 29 #15
LakeSuperiorView Dec 29 #17
Yosemito Dec 29 #10
TheBlackAdder Dec 29 #12
manor321 Dec 29 #14
allgood33 Dec 29 #11
katmondoo Dec 29 #13
Yosemito Dec 29 #19
Iggo Dec 29 #16
sarcasmo Dec 29 #18
Jarqui Dec 29 #20
Ilsa Dec 29 #21
ffr Dec 29 #22
NastyRiffraff Dec 29 #23

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:08 AM

1. That would be even better than Cohen

But it would be the first known mistake in the Dossier.
Still, can Don Jr be placed at the meeting with Russians?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:10 AM

2. We have to get 'to the bottom of this'

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:17 AM

3. Perhaps Steele and others knew the phone number as being Cohen's, hence the confusion.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:28 AM

5. How would it be a mistake?

What if Don Jr. used one of Cohen's burner phones? He had like 20 of them.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:27 AM

4. I was actually thinking about this.

Don Jr. is fluent in Czech and visits often.

This could explain Cohen's bizarre tweet. He says he wasn't in Prague, but Mueller knows everything. Maybe he his reference to Mueller is that he knows Don Jr. was actually the one there.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:39 AM

6. Yeah, it would explain that tweet. NT

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:44 AM

7. Aha! That is MOST interesting.

And he’d have a perfect alibi.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:49 AM

8. The phone pinged outside Prague

which makes it even more intriguing.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:53 AM

9. Phones going though airport security must prove they turn on, there should have been others.

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It's not only that it pinged outside Prague, when it was probably turned on, it must have been turned on at the airport security lines too.

It can't be tracked to travel logs?

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:10 AM

15. I'm betting that he didn't go through security

but instead came in on a private plane.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:33 AM

17. I don't fly that much, but I have never been asked to show that my phone turns on.

YMMV, but checking every phone would take a lot of extra time. I would not put much faith in that theory.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:55 AM

10. Crappy, unhelpful article

Cohen was in Europe, and was in a position to go to the Czech Republic without leaving a trace in his passport because you can travel freely within countries there.
Looks like Cohen was in Prague.
Plus why would Trump sacrifice his son by giving Cohen an alibi?

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Response to Yosemito (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:05 AM

12. If both travel over there at the same time, it creates confusion who the actual person was.

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If Cohen traveled there, at that time, by himself, it would be easy to connect the dots.

If there are multiple people traveling to the Prague area, the ability to prove who it was adds reasonable doubt.

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Response to Yosemito (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:04 AM

14. Yep. I don't read that website. Too many articles like this show up here.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:58 AM

11. Be sure if it wasn't Jr. it was one of the Trump campaigners.

I am certain Mueller knows exactly who it was.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:38 AM

13. It would make more sense if Don Jr went to Prague instead of Cohen

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 01:20 PM

19. Russians were overheard saying Cohen was in Prague

"During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said."

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html#storylink=cpy

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:23 AM

16. But this.

"So for Don Jr. to visit Prague would not be surprising or suspicious, since he has been going there his whole life."

Why create suspicion where there wouldn't have been any?

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:56 AM

18. Junior while in Prague used one of the phones Mr. Mueller confiscated from Cohen.



That's my opinion.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 02:31 PM

20. If they have one of Cohen's burner phones around Prague

talking to phone numbers linked to the Russians

and Trump Jr or whoever has been lying about it, then Trump has a significant problem arguing no conspiracy because some of his folks would have been caught lying about it.

Whether it was Cohen, Don Jr or someone else close to Trump, this is not good news for them.

If the Steele dossier misidentified Cohen because his burner phone was used, sorry but that is not too terrible an error.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 02:42 PM

21. Could it have been Iwanker? nt

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:56 PM

22. That makes the most sense to me too.

Cohen was said to have 16 cellphones seized.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:56 PM

23. This makes sense

What doesn't make sense is Cohen continuing to lie, particularly after he got a deal for just 3 years in prison. Mueller seemed pleased with him; those 3 years didn't come from him but from SDNY. Now he says Mueller knows everything, and he's most likely right.

It may be and probably is Junior, or it could be someone else. But I no longer think it was Cohen. That doesn't put Cohen in the clear; it was his phone that he must have given to someone.

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