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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:07 AM

The Disturbing Truth About Kevin Spacey's 'Let Me Be Frank' Video

Wasn't it obvious Spacey was trying to create doubt for any potential jury? That was my impression, and yea, he is a dangerous man.



(The actor, accused of misconduct by more than 30 men, may believe that talent and fame can save him from public disgrace. It’s not a crazy notion.)

Spencer Kornhaber
Dec 27, 2018

The video Kevin Spacey posted on Christmas Eve has been repeatedly described as “bizarre,” with good reason: No one knows what it means. Wearing a Santa apron and occasionally sipping from a mug, Spacey seems to inhabit his House of Cards character, Frank Underwood, drawling things such as, “We’re not done, no matter what anyone says.” The monologue hints at a desire to return to Cards, despite his character having been killed off (“You never actually saw me die, did you?” he asks). It plays as commentary on the more than 30 allegations of sexual misconduct against Spacey: “You wouldn’t rush to judgment without facts, would you?” The confusion the video has sown may have distracted from the news that the actor was just charged with the sexual assault of an 18-year-old in 2016.

What’s clear, at the least, is that Spacey chose for his first significant reemergence to be a showcase—or “showcase,” heavy on the air quotes—of his acting. And for it to spotlight one of the roles that the public once feted him for. And for it to dispense thoughts about morality and truth. All of which makes a statement: Don’t separate this artist from his art.

As year two of the post–Harvey Weinstein reckoning unfolds, that old ethical question—can art be evaluated apart from its artist?—feels more and more academic. Whether or not they should, many people clearly are fine with being entertained by alleged abusers. The cheers outnumbered the walkouts at surprise comedy sets by the confessed creep Louis C.K. The rapper XXXtentacion faced well-publicized allegations of hateful violence, and yet since his death, his music has risen to mega-popularity. Art, it seems, can survive allegations. What’s more unnerving is the suspicion, now, that artists can weather them, too—by relying on the goodwill engendered by their work.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/12/kevin-spaceys-let-me-be-frank-video-meaning/579034/


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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:16 AM

1. Other than self producing his own work - is anybody employing Spacey?

I got the impression he was kind out in the hinterlands, toxic to any production.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:19 AM

3. I think you're correct.

But I'm sure he's rolling in money from the first 5 season of House of Cards, and imagine the royalties he gets from it.

He probably makes more than any of us just off royalties alone.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:45 PM

16. Estimated net worth is $100 million n/t

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:45 AM

5. Yes, he is finished, professionally. This was about keeping doubt alive, imo.

He could conceivably end up behind bars.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:18 AM

2. I watched it. It was super weird.

Dislike the guy, but as an avid HOC watcher, seriously missed him in the last season. He made that show.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:32 AM

4. I'll be interested to see if justice comes for swiftly for him since he molested men and not women

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:48 AM

6. Yea. The evdience against him seems to be strong and how gender bias plays out

will also be interesting when you consider Harvey's cases too.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:32 AM

7. I interpreted this video as a man who knows he's finished basically giving an "FU" while going down

Professionally, he's finished - no amount of public relations is going to save him on that front. He may have concluded that he's finished on the criminal front as well - so thus, he's playing one of the last cards available to a guilty, condemned man - a defiant but ultimately futile middle finger to his condemners.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

8. I thought he just played creeps in movies (John Doe in SEVEN)

Turns out he is actually quite a creep IRL too.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:43 AM

10. A tRump supporter no doubt.

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Response to Joe941 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:49 AM

12. Nope, Spacey hates Trump

He has likened Trump to George Wallace. Predators don't discriminate when it comes to politics. They come in all forms.

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Response to Joe941 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:43 AM

13. Um, no.

Amazing how everyone wants to blame everything on the evil apricot.

But it doesn’t work that way.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:42 AM

9. "goodwill engendered by their work" is not limited to art

It is very common in all aspects of life. A very prominent example is Bill Clinton.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:45 AM

11. Idiocracy is in bloom.

Don't fall for it.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:47 AM

14. His attorney probably blew a gasket when s/he saw this

Textbook 101 on what a client accused of this NOT to do.

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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:47 AM

15. Bread and circuses: Just like 45: People demand to be entertained.

We are fickle humans.

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