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Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:42 PM

Christmas with my right wing parents

I keep reading the stories here about everyone's horrible right wing families so I thought I would share mine.

Me and my parents do not get along about many things, such is the nature of the relationship. We have been at odds for some ... oh ... for some 35+ years, since I was a teenager. They bug me about going to church, I do not go. They bitch about my drinking, I still drink. They complain about my lifestyle, I still do my thing. You know what else?

I love my parents, and if it came to you or them ... it would be them. every. single. time.

So ... I generally spend a few days with them over Christmas holiday and this year was no different. They live about 40 miles from me so it is not like I do not see them on a regular basis but the Christmas holiday allows me to take a couple of extra days and spend it with them. They are in their mid 80s now and mom has Parkinson's and that is tough for me to watch, dad has had health issue since his 50's but still seems to stay busier than me. They live in a little two bedroom trailer in Cut and Shoot Texas and have been retired for 20 years or so.

Sitting around the table we argue about this and that, sometimes it gets a little heated but for the most part it stays civil ... because of me, I know when to stop. My father pretty much puts me to work as soon as I get there and I know it is coming. Lots of tree branches to get piled up, something is always broke that needs a little more than my father can give it ... normal stuff, I do not mind.

This year when I asked what was new my father told me he had "picked up two more shifts at the food bank" that the church they attend sponsors. He had a couple of boxes of food and asked if I needed any and I scolded him for taking it when he did not need it. He explained that they receive more food than they can move because the walk in cooler at the church has been broken and they cannot afford to fix it so they cannot keep the food for any length of time. I suggested he find someone else who needs it and he explained that he helps to feed some families in the area and "was just asking" if I wanted anything ... it was Christmas eve and he had just got the stuff the day before. They have purchased a second refrigerator that is in the "shop" ( an old wood shed ) so the food stays better.

Christmas morning we loaded up his truck and drove around to some houses and dropped of packages of food to others. We spent about an hour at each place, trailers in the woods, and everyone of them insisted he take some gift ... which he did, only to give it to the next family. I teared up a little here and there, and I ain't no crier.

We got back to the trailer and mom does a prime rib and it was great, as always. We spent the rest of the day burning up piles of tree branches, trimming, and mowing. 65 degrees, eh ... Texas. The next morning, Wednesday, my parents were off to church and I told them I would go ( I never go, they do not even ask anymore ) but I wanted to drive myself. I followed them there in my work truck and once there and went and found that cooler. Old piece of crap that it was ... it did not need much. A new compressor, contact, and capacitor would do it. After my parents got done with the service they introduced me around to a great group of older retired people. I told them what was wrong with the cooler and they explained they knew but the estimate to fix it was over $3,000 and they just did not have it.

I left there that night and came home and this morning called my boss and told him the story I am telling you. His response was as I expected, "how much are the parts ... $500 or so ... you put them in I will pay for the parts". I stopped at the parts house and picked up what I needed and told no one, I just showed up and went to work. Had it knocked out about 3 this afternoon when my father showed up for his "shift". Had to fight them off a little to not get paid.

Merry Christmas.

Stuck around a little and helped my right wing bigoted father put donated food in boxes and load them in his truck so he could get out there and deliver the care packages ... horrible Trump voter that he is.

Not that my family is any better or worse than any other, the point is simple ... you only have one family and this time of year you should remember that and come together to do what it should be all about. Help those who you can, anyway you can and put those differences aside. For a minute or two anyways.

Merry Christmas all, hope your holiday was as enjoyable as mine.

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Lurker Deluxe Dec 2018 OP
empedocles Dec 2018 #1
elleng Dec 2018 #2
PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #3
Autumn Dec 2018 #4
912gdm Dec 2018 #6
Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #5
guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
herding cats Dec 2018 #8
TNNurse Dec 2018 #9
Turbineguy Dec 2018 #10
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Amaryllis Dec 2018 #13
colorado_ufo Dec 2018 #46
salin Dec 2018 #14
mcar Dec 2018 #15
NBachers Dec 2018 #16
Ohiogal Dec 2018 #17
Pluvious Dec 2018 #18
summer_in_TX Dec 2018 #54
Pluvious Dec 2018 #55
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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:44 PM

1. 'Cut and Shoot' Texas

Heard of it. Thank you.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:47 PM

2. Thank you.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:47 PM

3. Thank you for sharing that.

I do volunteer work at a local homeless shelter, helping to feed people there, so I'm real aware of the need for food by some people. And I'm likewise aware of the issue about getting broken equipment fixed. What you did was the kind of right thing we should all do on occasion, but too many of us don't.

Thank you for caring enough, and being willing to overlook the differences between you and your parents.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:48 PM

4. You are a wonderful son, and your parents raised you well.

Thanks for sharing your Christmas.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:51 PM

6. agree.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:49 PM

5. great story.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:55 PM

7. A beautiful story.

Merry Christmas to you also.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:12 PM

8. That was beautiful.

Thank you for sharing. ☺️

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:13 PM

9. A wonderful Christmas story,

Thank you so very much for sharing it with us.

Happy New Year.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:17 PM

10. It's a funny thing about Americans.

In many ways, they are really nice people.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:00 PM

25. +1

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:19 PM

11. Beautiful post, thank you.

Both sets of parents are gone now; hubby's were fairly liberal, mine right-wing Catholic and I miss them all. We rarely argued with mine, but did do some teasing - my Mom was appalled with Trump and voted Dem for Obama before she passed. Also wanted to live long enough to see Hillary as Pres. Quite the turnabout for Mom.

They also, all of them, made sure to give to "the less fortunate".

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:19 PM

12. Thanks for sharing your holiday experience. A loving family is key.

Honor thy father and mother.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:24 PM

13. Good people can be Trump supporters. It creates cognitive dissonance for me, but I know some. They

get their news from Faux and think we are the ones who are being brainwashed. But they are good people.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:20 PM

46. Trump is a world-class liar

and deceived a lot of people who themselves are used to telling the truth. For many of them, particularly the older people, it is difficult to imagine that someone could lie like that, so therefore they believed him.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:28 PM

14. :)

Well done. The "fix" to help others, give aid to others. Merry Christmas.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:28 PM

15. It's not all cut and dried

Thanks for this. I live in red FL and often feel like a fish out of water. But, my Dotard voting neighbors would give me the shirt off their backs if I needed it.

I don't understand them, but it is what it is.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:30 PM

16. A Christmas Tale for our times. Thank you. Thank you to your dad. Thank you to your mom.

Thank you to your boss. And thank you to their church.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:30 PM

17. What a great story.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Youíre a pretty talented writer. I look forward to reading more of your posts!



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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:31 PM

18. Thank you for sharing friend - somewhere in that there tale, is...

... is the answer to how we'll get past this time of Fox/HateRadio induced division.

And I think too, Shara Silverman is on to something.

John Lennon knew, as did MLK and Grandi.

Cheers for a breakout 2019

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Response to Pluvious (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:49 PM

54. There's a lot of love and caring in so many people, imperfect as they may be.

My Texas town has more Republicans and conservative-leaning independents than Dems.

But it has a huge culture of volunteerism, and people who believe that to whom much has been given, much is required. They gather donations and distribute at our local food bank, staff volunteer hotlines, drive for Meals on Wheels, spend their time, labor, and own money on mission trips to to help towns hard hit by Hurricane Harvey, (or Katrina or other disasters), or to the impoverished communities in the state to repair homes and make them livable for those who have neither the health nor the means to do so themselves.

When we can find what we have in common and build relationships, we have reason to hope that we can overcome the bitter partisan divide, and restore our country.

It's tempting to label each character defect in those who voted for Trump. But we ignore our own flaws when we do that and we give evidence that makes Rush credible when he says, as he does repeatedly, to his listeners: Liberals HATE you and everything you stand for.

I find most people here do the best they can. They make mistakes. They have preconceptions and areas of prejudice. I don't like admitting it, but I make mistakes and have some areas of prejudice myself.

I think you are right that the picture the OP paints and what Sarah Silverman is doing points the way to getting through this time to a better one.

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Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #54)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:32 PM

55. Very nicely expressed friend

Thank you for adding your take.
Hopefully this is a nascent trend,
that will get us thru another dark
cycle on our path to growing up.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:32 PM

19. I can so relate. And thanks.

Most of my family are republicans. But I still love them.

They are not in Congress, donít have much money and do some good things.

Rural Louisiana is just so removed from the world I live in.

That said, the young folks show promise. Sadly, the smart ones all have left or plan on leaving the area after college.

I can understand DU members who cut off relationships when it becomes abusive, but politics in not much discussed when I am there. They know my beliefs and seem to respect them.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:36 PM

20. Really nice story.....

Choked me up.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:39 PM

21. Lovely Christmas story. Kudos to you, and your boss, and your parents.

Like you, I have some RW relatives whose political views seem alien to me. But in other ways they're good people, generous people -- including through their churches.

And like your parents, they live in rural areas or small towns in regions where RW views are prevalent. Even if they don't watch Fox News, they're likely to hear RW talk radio throughout the day. Even if they don't hear it directly, they'll hear it echoed by their RW neighbors.

We have a lot of Democrats in the family, too. But in almost all cases they grew up in cities or moved to cities as soon as they could, and in some cases traveled more widely than the RWers.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:47 PM

22. Well done.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:56 PM

23. A nice finish to the day. Thanks for sharing.

Youíll never regret spending that extra time with your parents and I bet they really appreciate your help with their property. Iím sure the recipients of the food from the food bank are thankful for that now-working cooler.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:57 PM

24. what a wonderful, beautiful story



your parents are blessed



Merry Christmas

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:03 PM

26. This might be one of my all time favorite posts on DU.

Iím glad to meet you. Aloha.

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Response to mahina (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:58 PM

53. Mine too. One of the best uplifting OP's I've seen in a couple of years.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:05 PM

27. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.

This is what Christmas is all about. You and your parents are lucky to have each other. Blessings to you all.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:12 PM

28. Thank you for your story!

It was very nice to hear.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:14 PM

29. I enjoyed spending xmas with my progressive parents when they were alive

 

I have no progressive family members left so xmas is very chill, laid back, no pretending for the sake of a Holiday for me, I just don't have time to spend with tRumpsters.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:17 PM

30. Wonderful story but

for any readers who are feeling like there most be something wrong with them since they can't deal with their family like you can, I will put this out there.

My mother did not want me. She did not hold me, she did not nurture me, she did everything she could to avoid having any sort of loving relationship with me. She had realized that my Dad was not who she thought he was and now she was trapped and I was the cause of her being unable to go back to her family. This was in the 50s after all and divorce was not acceptable in many families.

She did have an image to uphold however so I was properly clothed, fed, housed, and cared for but that was the extent of it. When my wife and I took our 16 month old daughter back to meet her great great grandfather and his wife my mother showed up. When she and my sister were getting ready to leave I took my daughter to the kitchen and offered her to my mother to hold, my mother declined. How does anybody do that to a baby?

People have told me all through my life that mothers always love their children and up till I started raising sheep I believed them. I've been lambing now for over 20 years and each year I have a few ewes who refuse to have anything to do with one or more of their lambs. Sometimes there's a reasonable explanation. Something is wrong with the lamb and we only find out when it fails to thrive or dies. Sometimes the ewe has a problem with her bag or teats and it is painful or difficult for her to feed her lambs. Sometimes there is just no obvious answer.

The mother just doesn't want anything to do with her offspring.

Obviously information we get from animal models has to be taken with a grain of salt but frequently there is value in what we can learn from those observations. Things go wrong, some females just aren't wired to be mothers, sometimes circumstances come together that just make it impossible for the mother and child to bond.

Sometimes no matter how much you want to believe that if you just try hard enough anyone can experience what the person who posted this is blessed to have, you just can't.

So to people who have to struggle during the holidays to deal with biological families who have different political views and agendas I want you to know how lucky you are for that connection no matter how tenuous.

For any of you who were dealt the sort of hand I was, I say if there is nothing there don't beat yourself up. Go make your own family, biological or not. Cherish those people, realize how lucky you are to have them in your life and let the rest go. Sometimes things just don't work the way they are supposed to work.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:54 PM

35. Great insight. You have overcome the bad hand you were dealt.

Without the natural mother-child bond, you must have bonded with another adult to end up so mentally healthy. Sometimes another relative or family friend can fill the gaps left by a parent.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:24 AM

40. Hugs from me to you

You have a beautiful heart

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:30 PM

43. That's tough.

My mother was pretty cold too, and a great one for guilt tripping us and brow beating. She also had a mean streak, but she took care of us, and in return I took care of her when she had Dementia and was bedridden for 5 years before she died. I always loved her and know that as far as she was capable of love she loved us too.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:44 PM

44. About 25 years ago my childrens mother told me she felt trapped

and was running off with a fireman. Three kids between us and a step-son.
I was shocked. I asked her "what about the kids?" She said "I don't want them.
I only had them because you wanted them." I didn't sleep for a week.
The twins were still in diapers, older daughter was three and step-son was ten.
She did not have the mother gene.
I raised them the best I could. Both daughters have college degrees and good jobs.
Both sons are in the Coast Guard.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:52 PM

51. Thank you for posting this


The fact that you were able to watch and learn from nature is amazing, and the fact that you know that some women should not be mothers is also an incredible insight. I hope that your insight was gained without great pain, but that is probably not the case.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 12:50 AM

58. I have always wished for a loving family

My mom couldnít handle my hyper brother and there was no drugs or help back then, parents believed in spanking and he would laugh at them.

She fell apart emotionally when I was 12, my brother was sent away and crazy home life continued.

I was close to my dad who died in 2000, I spent my Christmas time driving last minute out of state to move my mom to assisted living. We arenít close but there was no one else to help except my daughter who is busy manager.

My back was on fire all week from picking up heavy bags of garbage, books and clothes. My heart was sad from being needled and demanded to all week by mom who is freaked of giving up her life and taking it out on me.

I come home my husband is freaked because we are retired and mom may cost us money. I couldnít have her live with us because my husband has bad depression problems and she drives me nuts.

I have been spending the week finding her new doctor, fixing her finances, a million things and she writes in FB how great my kids were helping her and didnít even mention I come to help her once. Family is tough sometimes, life is but its the one we have.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:31 AM

60. My mother came from a family like that

her mother was physically, verbally and mentally abusive to her. Her father was "there" but checked himself out and choose to ignore what went on. Inspite of that kind of home life my mother was kind, giving and loving to my brother and me. Somehow she had the strength to overcome her past and be a wonderful mother, I couldn't have had a better one. Hugs!

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:26 PM

31. Thanks for the wonderful story.

Great story. You have your priorites right....family is so important, and politics and religion are topics that threaten the love and bond that is healthy and so wonderful.

Four older siblings are all trump supporters. We just have to avoid the touchie subject when we get together. Love them all, but if we ever careen to close to talking politics, we all feel like we are threatened.

Mom and Dad are special, and there is good in everyone of us...just sometimes more in some than others. Glad you recognize the good soul in your parents.

Thanks for sharing.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:38 AM

39. Similar experience here with my sole surviving brother


Hasn't voted for a Democrat for 50 years.

We had to adopt a "no politics discussion rule" because we couldn't have balanced discussions, I was much better informed than they were so it wasn't a fair discussion.

Except this year my brother said that he had to break the rule. He couldn't stand what Trump was doing to the country. If the Democrats didn't win by a landslide "the Republic is lost".

Not only did he want to talk about it he changed from "the Democrats might win" to "I think we are going to win".

Now unfortunately he has had to move the "no politics" rule to his own house as his wife is 100% behind FOX news and Sean Hannity or (the dark side as he puts it). I don't talk politics with her, and I still respect her for the generous kind person she is.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:36 PM

32. Nice! There's always SOME way to help out.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:41 PM

33. Thank you and your boss for the repair job.

I volunteer at a Food Bank and not too long ago our huge walk-in fridge malfunctioned. We lost everything in it, took us a couple of weeks to resupply and we were unable to provide any meat/milk/eggs to our clients. So I know how important your actions were to your father's church.
Good job!!!

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:50 PM

34. A great story.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:58 PM

36. My Republican parents raised 4 liberals.

We didn't sway from the underlying values they taught us, we just found our own understanding on how to achieve them.

Your story sounds similar, except that I only get to see mine in pictures and memories, now.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:25 AM

37. Thanks you for sharing. I had ultra-rightwing parents who did good things for other people in their

own community. I respect that. My sense is the conservatives love to help people in their own community who needy, but their empathy does not extend farther to the nation or the world at large. Like Dick Cheney can accept his gay daughter. My Dad spoke fluent Spanish and loved the Latin American people in our neighborhood when we lived in South America. But he was afraid of "illegal immigrants" and "Muslims." Go figure.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:31 AM

38. Well written. Appreciate the real world connection.


For some reason I was particularly touched that you had the kind of relationship with your boss that you could ask him to join in the rescue. In my experience most people like to be asked to help and will willing to do it.

The only thing I don't understand, and never will, is how nice thoughtful generous people like your parents look up to a shiftless selfish conman like Trump. It remains a mystery.

Thanks for taking that trip to the Church.

It occurs to me that your Father was beaming with pride and after you left told a similar story to his friends, about his crazy liberal Beto loving son who is really a stand up guy at heart.

Every time he looks at that 2nd rate freezer he will think "I must have done something right to get a first rate son" and because those Texas towns always seem to have dust whirling in the wind (and the fact that growing old has made him more sentimental about the legacy he leaves behind in his children) he will have to take out his handkerchief and wipe the moisture out of his eyes.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:49 AM

41. Your parents raised an incredible son.

Thank you so much for sharing your story, and thank you for being such a good person. Your kind deed will help hundreds of people, and your dad will be proud to say "my son helped."

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:16 PM

42. You should write a novel

Seriously.

You tell a good story out of simple actions.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:48 PM

45. Your post confirms my suspicion that some Trump voters are teddy bears at heart.

I know two of these people too--they are ornaments to their communities, and probably voted Republican. These people need a better party, not a brain transplant. And you never mentioned your boss's politics. However he votes, he too is a teddy bear.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:58 PM

47. Merry Christmas!

I wish you and your family more years of Prime Rib, chores and donated food.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:05 PM

48. That was a lovely story

It goes to show that most people are good at heart no matter where they stand.

We too eat prime rib for Christmas dinner.

Some of the family go to church and some of us are not believers - no one cares either way.

One person who flew in brought his boyfriend. No one even blinked - I was so proud.

My grown nephew, at whose house we met, asked if anyone wanted to see hundreds of dollars of wrapping paper go up in a bonfire. We all ran outside and go up it did.

One of the in-laws mom ate quickly and then ran upstairs and packed up ALL THE FOOD AND PUT IT IN HER CAR. She is a church going, Dr. No leftovers for anyone nor could we even pick at the food. We had 7 small children and one college student in attendance.

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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:41 PM

49. thanks for that - i don't know if it applies to your parents but a lot of the

country has been dominated with 30 years of rw radio liars and bigots making excuses for the bigotry and ignorance and completely malinforming half the country, blaming liberals and democrats at every chance

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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:00 PM

50. Beautiful story and beautiful people:

you, your folks, your boss, and all those folks helping others as best they can.

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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:56 PM

52. Glad you can still love your parents

I am lucky in that regard. My mom (she died in '99) was more liberal than my dad ... my dad has become more liberal than I am under Trump. He hates Trump more than me I think (though I admit - that would be hard - I absolutely despise our cheeto resident thingy.)

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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:09 PM

56. From me to you and your folks...you betcha...

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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:28 PM

57. Beautiful.

Thank you. Your portrait reminds us of what we have in common, which is far more than what divides us, no matter how it looks.

It gives me hope that I can find the courage to talk and especially listen, respectfully, to my two sons who are bright and wonderful people, but I am almost certain voted for Trump. I haven't wanted to be completely sure, but I have little doubt.

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Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:18 AM

59. Absolutely BEAUTIFUL

this the way I feel about my extended family (my parents are gone now), I will always choose them.

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Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:54 AM

61. My Mom died this Thanksgiving morning. You are

doing this thing right.

Love them.

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