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Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:45 PM

Trumps Push to deport Vietnamese in California may be the death knell of the Republican Party There

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/15/trump-vietnam-war-refugees-california-gop-orange-county-1066639

“It’s not just bad social policy. It’s incredibly bad politics,” said GOP consultant Mike Madrid, who has been vociferously imploring his party to renounce Trumpism and expand its electorate. He was among a group of former California Republican Party political directors who signed a recent letter urging the rejection of “messages of hatred, division and rhetoric that divides us by race.”

Vietnamese-Americans, Madrid said, represent “the only ethnic diversity in the party to speak of.”


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Reply Trumps Push to deport Vietnamese in California may be the death knell of the Republican Party There (Original post)
KWR65 Dec 2018 OP
RandySF Dec 2018 #1
ghostsinthemachine Dec 2018 #2
Flaleftist Dec 2018 #3
Iliyah Dec 2018 #4
Lithos Dec 2018 #13
McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #5
politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2018 #6
UpInArms Dec 2018 #7
Vogon_Glory Dec 2018 #8
Blue_true Dec 2018 #9
UpInArms Dec 2018 #10
ribrepin Dec 2018 #11
Norbert Dec 2018 #12
dsc Dec 2018 #14
LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #15
Hekate Dec 2018 #16
Yavin4 Dec 2018 #17
Hekate Dec 2018 #18
SCVDem Dec 2018 #19
cntrfthrs Dec 2018 #20
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #21

Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:48 PM

1. Stephen Miller is ready to sacrifice the Republican Party to live out his childhood revenge fantasy.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:54 PM

2. Republicans are DONE in CA anyway

Thank you Arnold for that.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:00 PM

3. So if this is a stupid move that will cost the GOP,

what are the chances of bipartisan legislation in Congress to stop it?

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:08 PM

4. There are Vietnamese living all over the country.

The backfire will be "bigly" in their communities.

Apparently, the white nationalists live in non-reality bubbles.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:20 PM

13. Vietnamese are not so much scattered

The largest communities are on California and Texas (Houston area) if I recall.. I believe too that those in California were more tilted towards the GOP. I think those in Texas being more traditionally conservative than not.

This will not fare well with the GOP.

L-

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:10 PM

5. The GOP does not care about California. They want to keep Alabama.

Deporting ethnic minorities anywhere in the country will play well in the Deep South.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:21 PM

6. Damn, I can't believe there are so many people posting stuff about California today that they don't

seem to know anything about. California is a very diverse state, and Los Angeles is one of the most diverse cities in this entire nation. Our Vietnamese-Americans came here legally as refugees and we welcomed them here. Los Angeles has China Town, Korea Town, L'il Mexico, Filipino's, Greeks, Jewish, African American, etc, etc, etc and we welcomed and love them all. Our diversity is a strength, not a weakness. People who don't live here or know our history, need to stay the hell out of our business; particularly Trump.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:40 PM

7. I remember a very vibrant Vietnamese community

In Oklahoma City in the 80s ...

And, in Amarillo, my parents’ neighbors were Vietnamese ... and my mom helped teach them to speak English....

This is all just so wrong ...

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:07 PM

8. There are still a lot of Vietnamese in Dallas, Houston. And

on the Gulf Coast. Trump’s move ain’t going to help the Republicans there.

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Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:17 PM

9. I think the coastal regions of North Carolina has a good population.

My experience with the business types is that they are geniuses at making stuff other people overlooked into sizeable businesses, like shellfish farming, including crab farming. They just take such businesses from hit and miss to significant operations through hard work and smarts.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:22 PM

10. I worked with several of them

And loved them ... they were always so sincere and worked so hard

I knew it was difficult for them ...

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:27 PM

11. I don't understand this

Aren't most of them citizens already if they came as refugees in the 70's. Am I missing something? Surely he can't deport someone who came in the baby lift after the war?

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:34 PM

12. One of my good friends from my previous job is Vietnamese.

His mom and dad emigrated the family to the US as soon as his dad was available to do so. He was incarcerated shortly after the fall of Saigon. I'm no doctor but I'm sure his dad had PTSD from the war and by being imprisoned. I've lost touch of my friend years ago when he took a job in another city. Hopefully we will reconnect someday.


For this draft dodger to call for the deportation of Vietnamese is unconscionable to the highest degree. I can't really imagine what my friends father must be thinking.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:24 PM

14. I don't know if they still are heavily GOP

but back when I was in college Vietnamese were very, very Republican. Given their hatred of Communism that made very good sense. This is politically amazingly stupid of Trump to have done.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:30 PM

15. Just rewatched The Green Berets. Trump wants to deport Hamchunk.

 

I bet Col. Kirby would be pissed that Peter-san's friend is now attacked by Cadet BoneSpurs...

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:35 PM

16. Orange County has a large Vietnamese immigrant/refugee population, & they've been loyal Repubs...

...for pretty much the same reason the Cubans have been: the anti-communist history of the party.

One of the GOP honchos quoted in the LA Times article about this insane new policy said that Trump was "shoveling dirt on the grave of the California Republican Party." Well, yeah.

It took awhile for it to sink in to me that by targeting those who came before 1994, Trump and his racist xenophobic white nationalist buddies are targeting the very refugees who fled the communist regime after the Fall of Saigon -- people who had helped the US military and believed what the US said about taking care of them by letting them into the US.

People like Thuy, who was one of my first friends in California when I moved here in late 1978. She and her husband got out of Saigon with their infant twins on the last boat out -- he made it aboard because he was an officer in the Vietnamese military and worked closely with Americans. They moved to Orange County years ago and we lost touch...

Whatever we think of that war, there are people we OWE. We owe Hmong and Vietnamese who trusted our word, just like we owe our own veterans. Gods know our government has been less than perfect in that regard, but I have a sick sick feeling that once again Trump is going to ensure that Uncle Sam's word is worthless in the eyes of the world.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:38 PM

17. There was a show on Fox called "The O.C."

It was about teens living in Orange County. There were no Asians in the main cast. There wasn't Asians extras in restaurant scenes.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:43 PM

18. It figures. It's like doing a show about Santa Barbara with an all-blond cast when the city is ...

...about 50% Latino.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:47 PM

19. I would be happy to secede!

I was at MCAS El Toro in the fall of 1975. I watched the mass evacuation of a country.

They turned a dumpy area of Westminster into a beautiful destination.

Take your hate and go fuck yourself!

California does not need the other states!

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 11:46 PM

20. I want to know why...

all the recent european immigrants arent also on the list for deportation???

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2018, 12:22 AM

21. I thought they were already pretty much dead

Thanks to Pete Wilson.

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