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Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:01 PM

State AGs Just Subpoenaed All Of Trump's Tax Returns

From the article:

The state attorney generals who are suing Donald Trump for Emoluments Clause violations are demanding that he turn over all of his tax returns.
Read the subpoenas:

The truth about Trumpís corrupt abuse of the presidency is coming to light, and the end result could be impeachment of this president.


To see the subpoenas:

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/04/state-ags-just-subpoenaed-all-of-trumps-tax-returns.html

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Reply State AGs Just Subpoenaed All Of Trump's Tax Returns (Original post)
guillaumeb Dec 5 OP
3Hotdogs Dec 5 #1
guillaumeb Dec 5 #2
grantcart Dec 5 #24
onenote Dec 5 #29
grantcart Dec 5 #36
ashling Dec 5 #31
berni_mccoy Dec 6 #41
Glimmer of Hope Dec 5 #3
guillaumeb Dec 5 #4
ancianita Dec 5 #21
Glimmer of Hope Dec 5 #23
ancianita Dec 5 #27
leftynyc Dec 5 #5
guillaumeb Dec 5 #6
leftynyc Dec 5 #7
geardaddy Dec 5 #19
Victor_c3 Dec 5 #22
Kaleva Dec 5 #32
onenote Dec 5 #30
LakeSuperiorView Dec 6 #42
niyad Dec 5 #8
guillaumeb Dec 5 #10
niyad Dec 5 #14
guillaumeb Dec 5 #16
Wellstone ruled Dec 5 #9
guillaumeb Dec 5 #11
Roland99 Dec 5 #12
guillaumeb Dec 5 #13
Roland99 Dec 5 #15
guillaumeb Dec 5 #17
George II Dec 5 #18
IronLionZion Dec 5 #20
UTUSN Dec 5 #25
kimbutgar Dec 5 #26
guillaumeb Dec 5 #38
orleans Dec 5 #28
red dog 1 Dec 5 #33
Mr.Bill Dec 5 #34
Kingofalldems Dec 5 #35
Amaryllis Dec 5 #37
guillaumeb Dec 5 #39
onetexan Dec 6 #43
guillaumeb Dec 6 #44
Mc Mike Dec 6 #40

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:10 PM

1. That's interesting. If the court directs him to turn over the tax dox and he doesn't,

does he lose the suit and have to sell the crappy properties or pay a fine? What remedies does the suit ask for?

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:16 PM

2. These are state level suits.

So Trump could not pardon himself.

Trump has much experience with civil courts, but these are criminal courts.

I think we are all looking forward to seeing what happens.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:53 PM

24. I was certain you were wrong about it being criminal corts

However if it is enforcing a charge on emoluments then that would have to be Federal and not state.

It is doubtful that a President could pardon himself as you cannot undertake a pardon to further a crime.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:09 PM

29. It is a civil suit brought by the AGs of MD and DC in the US District Court for Maryland

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Response to onenote (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 05:17 PM

36. That makes sense

I read the article at the link and got sloppy. It states "could lead to criminal charges" which is speculative to say the keast

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:11 PM

31. I was once held in contempt of court

for not answering after my name was called 3rd time. I had been stopped by Highway Patrol and was a few minutes late for court. ( My old Ford picyup threw a rod and was not steering well, so Highway Patrol pulled me over to see if I was drinking - I was sober ... the judge was drunk w/ power) Judge fined me $25 and told the Sheriff to not let me leave the courthouse until it was paid.

I never paid anything, the sheriff let me go, and the judge forgot about it.

Maybe Trump could be held in contempt and in jail until they were produced.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:55 AM

41. States do not need Trump to do it. They can go directly to the IRS who cannot refuse a court order.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:27 PM

3. The subpoenas are for his various entities so the requests are not for his personal tax returns.

Maxine will get those.

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:28 PM

4. Thank you. eom

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:17 PM

21. The OP quotes the article as saying "all." The writer's misunderstanding? Faulty journalism?

Sorry I haven't had the time to read the subpoenas to find out.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:50 PM

23. That web site is a bit sketchy. I skimmed the subpoenas last night and none of the requests

are for his personal tax returns.

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:06 PM

27. Thanks.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:29 PM

5. Whoever wrote that article

needs English lessons. It's ATTORNEYS GENERAL.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:31 PM

6. I am thankful that I did not write the article.

I rarely correct or comment on such issues. That is my daughter's job as a copy editor.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:33 PM

7. Those kinds of mistakes

stick out like a sore thumb to me. I didn't even read the rest of the sentence.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:06 PM

19. Yep.

I'm always reminded of this when I see "attorneys general"

https://www.theonion.com/william-safire-orders-two-whoppers-junior-1819565735

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:29 PM

22. Not related to this, but I like the headline of the article directly below the one you linked

ďGrieving Nation Solemnly Waits Extra Day For Their Amazon ShitĒ

I love satire, itís often so true and really points to our attitudes as a society.

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Response to Victor_c3 (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:12 PM

32. Lol!

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:10 PM

30. its also one state (MD) and the District of Columbia

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 01:14 PM

42. I agree that Attorneys General is more correct, but both are accepted these days.

Attorneys General is a form that is falling from favor and probably will be considered archaic in a century or so.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:41 PM

8. it should read "attorneys general"

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Response to niyad (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:43 PM

10. If I had written it,

it would have.

I see this type of error all the time, in magazines, papers, and posts here.

I am a literature major, and my oldest daughter is a copy editor. We frequently exchange examples of this sort of thing.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:49 PM

14. I know it was not your mistake. as an editor, these things irritate me.

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Response to niyad (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:51 PM

16. In the future, I may youse (sic) my ability

to correct the copy.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:42 PM

9. Wow,that was fast.

So the make the so called Rich Guy a poor Man is now in full swing. Damn,lovin it. Woo Hoo!!

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:44 PM

11. Fake news?

No, reality stepping in.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:45 PM

12. Now the lawyers start wracking up billables

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:48 PM

13. Will there be money to pay them?

Considering we are speaking about Trump.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:49 PM

15. As long as they accept rubles

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:51 PM

17. Laughing at my desk.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:05 PM

18. The two subpoena documents combined are 492 pages!!

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:08 PM

20. PoliticsUSA doesn't have time for spell check?

This article is full of mistakes. It makes them look unprofessional and lose some credibility.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:56 PM

25. K&R

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:59 PM

26. He is not going to be impeached

We are stuck with him until he is booted out of office in 2020 in a landslide lost.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:38 PM

38. It might be better if he is not.

Imagine 2 more years of investigations, and revelations.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:08 PM

28. it's as if he is attending his own funeral today n/t

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:27 PM

33. The state "attorney generals"?

However, they do provide the subpoenas for us to read.

K&R

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:28 PM

34. Can't they subpoena them

directly from the IRS? I would imagine Mueller may have them already.

I was on a Grand Jury once and we needed to subpoena someone's medical records. We did it directly from the hospital, not the person in question.

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:29 PM

35. Go Maryland!

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:13 PM

37. Can he refuse to hand them over?

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:38 PM

39. That is a good question for the lawyers here.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #37)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 01:41 PM

43. the judge has granted discovery according to WaPo article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2-attorneys-general-to-subpoena-trump-organization-irs/2018/12/04/d20a5106-f7fd-11e8-8642-c9718a256cbd_story.html?utm_term=.252139f9af8d

and i take it to mean there is legal standing for the subpoenas, and if so, the IRS has no choice but to comply:

"The flurry of subpoenas came a day after U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte approved a brisk schedule for discovery in the case alleging that foreign and domestic government spending at Trumpís Washington, D.C., hotel amounts to gifts to the president in violation of the Constitutionís emoluments clause."

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Response to onetexan (Reply #43)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 02:35 PM

44. Thank you for the link. eom

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:23 AM

40. Rec # 100. Thanks, Nt.

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