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Tue Dec 4, 2018, 02:07 PM

Bada Bing's Big Bang: How The Sopranos Defined White America's Cultural Shift

A great look at the Sopranos as it foreshadows today's political and social scene.

<The Sopranos shows how we got to where we are now, a country stewing in its own stale juices.>

<Coming at the ragged end of the Bill Clinton era and sticking around through most of the Bush presidency, The Sopranos records and preserves the cusp of the pre-9/11, post-9/11 atmospheric shift, when national confidence had the wind knocked out of it and terrorism superseded organized crime as the chief preoccupation of the feds, the red needle on the fear gauge.

It pulls back the tarp of the underlying malaise afflicting white America, a malaise compounded of postwar nostalgia, creeping age, waning virility and vital purpose, and a nagging belatedness (Tony himself: ďLately, Iím getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is overĒ). The gong of decline is tolled at the outset. The rackets arenít bringing in the money they used to, the minorities are taking over . . . Why canít things be the way they used to be when young snots respected their elders, made men didnít cut deals and rat out associates but took the full rap, and they played Jerry Vale on the radio?>

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/the-sopranos-white-americas-cultural-shift

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LuckyLib Dec 4 OP
Wellstone ruled Dec 4 #1
shenmue Dec 4 #2
StevieM Dec 4 #3
byronius Dec 4 #4
StevieM Dec 4 #6
byronius Dec 4 #7
misanthrope Dec 4 #8
TexasBushwhacker Dec 4 #11
fishwax Dec 4 #5
Celerity Dec 4 #9
Coventina Dec 4 #10
Drahthaardogs Dec 4 #12

Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 02:20 PM

1. Nice Post.

Ironic as all heck,we had this discussion going the same direction three weeks with our Niece. Thirty years age difference,but her observations were spot on much like this story.

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Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 02:33 PM

2. I hate that show

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Response to shenmue (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 02:40 PM

3. I never watched it. I don't like shows and movies that glorify the mob. (eom)

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Response to StevieM (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:42 PM

4. Oh, I'm certain it did the opposite. And I've watched it through three times.

The show made it clear that they were all incompetent losers, constantly, overtly. There was zero glorification. Every character was depicted as ugly and small inside, especially the normal citizens who helped them for cash.

Not to mention the end -- in which the message was 'now you've killed your entire family, great job'.

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Response to byronius (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:21 PM

6. I see your point. I am just not into the mob shows. I can't believe we live in a society

where there is actually a TV show called "Growing up Gotti."

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Response to StevieM (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:06 PM

7. Gangsters have always had an odd appeal for the downtrodden.

The thirties, for instance. Bonnie and Clyde were heroes to the poor farmers who lost their land to the banks.

Goes back to Robin Hood.

But the reality is always a little more psychopathic.

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Response to byronius (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:36 PM

8. I've seen it more than three times

When it was still airing, I would watch each each episode twice on the night it aired and then I've gone through it at least two more times in the decade since it ended. I still believe it's the best series I've ever seen on television. Everything about it -- cinematography, writing, direction, production values, especially the acting -- is unmatched as a whole.

Anyone who believes it glamorizes crime or the mob, or specifically defames Italian-Americans has never watched it all the way through. It's a masterpiece of a show with numerous psychological and sociological layers.

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Response to byronius (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:08 PM

11. I agree it did not glamorize them

I just don't find a bunch of thugs all that interesting.

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Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:54 PM

5. Yeah, it's a great series. I watched it again this summer, and much in this article rings true

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Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:56 PM

9. Great article.

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Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:04 PM

10. I tried to watch it, but I found it put me in a bad mood.

I don't need TV that puts me in a bad mood.

So, I bailed out when Adrianna (?) was strong-armed into being a snitch.
That was the last straw for me.

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Response to LuckyLib (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:14 PM

12. Nice story but..

Italians have historically not been considered "white" in America. They were oppressed, lynched, interned during WWII, and laws were passed in this country to prohibit italian and Greek immigration

Roman Catholic italian Americans are not the epitome of whiteness. The author of that article is clueless.

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