Julian Assange is being smeared and framed by the 1%.

[Zorra]

He released confidential and classified information that was instrumental in exposing the corruption of the 1% and some of their international government employees, helping to spark a revolution in Tunisia that was a catalyst for mass civil protest against the 1% in other countries.

Julian is an amazing person, and he, and his skill and knowledge with machines, and in coordinating others with superior skills and knowledge of machines, are possibly the greatest threats that the 1% status quo has had to eliminate to date.

In April of 2010, Julian released footage of US soldiers slaughtering 18 Iraqi civilians from a helicopter in Iraq.

The allegations of sexual assault arose in August of 2010. The stories behind the allegations and subsequent actions by law enforcement personnel are extremely suspect; and there is evidence that the persons bringing these allegations have ulterior motives, other than seeking justice for self-alleged sexual assaults on their persons, for bringing these allegations.

Intelligence organizations in several countries were aware that Julian possessed confidential and classified information that he intended to release at some point, prior to the sexual contact, and the subsequent allegations of sexual assault being brought public.

The persons who allege that they were sexually assaulted by Julian colluded prior to seeking legal redress for these alleged assaults.

There is no evidence other than a torn condom and hearsay, to indicate that any sexual contact between Julian and these women was anything but consensual.

There is no case.

Even if these allegations were true, the alleged assault would be totally impossible to successfully prosecute, given that the forces of justice were applied with complete integrity.

This entire drama is a staged event by a vindictive 1% who are determined to punish Julian for exposing them for the monsters that they are. Using false allegations of sexual assault is the simplest way for the 1% to ruin a person's reputation, and to neutralize their post-allegation actions, without having to have any tangible evidence to do this with. They are using this case, which is already moot, in order to insure that Julian can no longer threaten the status quo of their dictatorial control over world affairs.

Logically: The 1% has all the money and power in the world. Julian spit in their face, after letting them know that he had pissed a bladderful in their caviar before they ate it. What is the 1% going to do about this?

If Julian does make it to Ecuador, he will, like Trotsky in Mexico in the 1930's, have to be vigilantly protected at all times to prevent his being assassinated by some action arising from a dictate by the 1%.

Again:

There is no case.

Julian is being smeared and framed.

[russspeakeasy]

1. As near as I can tell it's closer to 99 %

[Zorra]

5. As more people learn the facts about this case,

they will realize what a crock of poop it is.

Some others feel that they have an agenda to protect at all costs, and will deny the facts despite all evidence.

[russspeakeasy]

6. I hope you are correct.

[sabrina 1]

13. And each time they go after him as the Brits did yesterday, more and more people

do learn more of the facts. Looking at the reaction from around the world yesterday, online especially, the comments are more and more on the side of Assange, even from people who say they once believed the stories.

Ecuadorans eg, were overwhelmingly in support of their Government's decision.

And today, Ecuador called a summit of the OAS states to get a vote on the law Britain referenced as a possible means of removing their diplomatic status. I believe it is still going on. But so far, Chile, Honduras among others have stated they are fully in support of Ecuador's right to grant asylum as they did. I believe they are going to vote to support that right. Most expressed outrage at the British threat and Britain has now said they their letter 'was not a threat'. But no one is buying that.

[xchrom]

2. du rec. Nt

[bayareaboy]

3. I agree their is no case against him ...

But I really disagree about where the charges come from. They come from Government, not any one else!

[Zorra]

4. Maybe so. Whatever the case, there is no case. And making the world aware of this

is important.

Despite the anguished, indignant protestations of the supporters of Wall St. and the 1% plutarchy, *lol lol* we need to keep the truth about this case in the public eye as long and as obviously as possible, in order to expose the corruption of the status to as many people as possible, in order to gain more support for actions in the future that will lead to the establishment of effective egalitarian democracy and economic justice for everyone.

[sabrina 1]

9. True, but governments now are paid for by the 1%. And remember that is was

after Assange revealed in the summer of 2010, that most of the leaks Wikileaks had been receiving were from the 'private sector'. Since Wikileaks revelations had brought down the Iceland bank, resulting in the government arresting bankers and nationalizing the banks, when he claimed to have more damaging info on 'major banks', and that some of it could bring down at least one of them, shortly after that these allegations were made.

We also know from the HB Gary emails released by Anonymous, that BOA was hiring Contractors, like HB Gary to go after Assange and to discredit anyone who supported him, including people like Glenn Greenwald. So there is absolute proof that at least one Bank was behind the smear campaign.

Also, Wikileaks obtained a CIA document which it published on its website where they discussed how to silence him, and settled on 'sex charges' as the best way to do so.

The problem is that Governments are now often controlled by Giant Corporations and will work to protect them.

[riderinthestorm]

7. The two women themselves are the first to say they were not raped. Nor would they press charges

One of them has left Sweden and will not ever participate in any kind of prosecution, the other wouldn't even sign the investigator's report.

[treestar]

11. With what we know about battered and abused women

Come on. Changing their story is suspicious the other way.

[riderinthestorm]

14. They bragged to their friends that they were sleeping with Assange.

And I know battered, abused and raped women. I'm a rape crisis counselor and I volunteer weekly at my local women's shelter.

What Sweden is doing actually demeans and belittles women who really have been through this - this is a grotesque parody of a case, and the two women involved are disgusted by it.

Your hideous attempt to try to conflate the trauma that real women experience vs. what's happening in this political theatre exposes is nothing short of breathtaking.

When it comes to allegations of rape - I take what the women involved say it is or is not, extremely seriously. They say that no rape occurred.

In fact, the only reason they went to the authorities was to have Assange take an HIV test since the condom broke and there was unprotected sex.

And for what its worth, the women have NEVER changed their story. That's a bold faced lie. A lie.

[cr8tvlde]

17. Yep. Amazing how quickly the RW political press jumps on (no pun intended...ha)

the hint of rape when it is in their own best interest. When it really, really happens and there is a rape kit involved and those other tacky details, they can't flee fast enough.

[riderinthestorm]

20. I know. The sheer scale of rape in the US, during our wars

hell even Sweden (which has some of the worst rape prosecution stats in Europe)...

... and everyone's getting worked up over THIS case?

My heart just breaks for real rape victims who often wait (forever) for justice.

This political stunt is hideous, especially in its treatment of women. Especially the women involved in the Assange case, who've been told by their paternalistic state that they don't really know that they've been "raped"! And that despite the women's adamant desire to NOT press charges, the paternalistic state believes it can supercede the wishes of its own citizens and advance the case FOR them). I can't even imagine being the women involved - if this ever comes to a resolution in Sweden they will be forced to become hostile witnesses (if they can be found. One of them has fled the country and vows to not return) detailing their sex with Assange?!

Ick. Just completely patriarchal and disgusting. I'd bet a million dollars that virtually all of the posters pressing that this "rape" case go forward are all men - despicable, sexist, voyeuristic men.

[treestar]

49. So? That is not permission to rape them another time.

And why doesn't this cad take an HIV test for them then?

[riderinthestorm]

56. Except the women themselves aren't calling it "rape" so how dare you decide for them.

I'm going to guess you're a man but let me give you a hint - telling women how they should categorize their sexual encounters is a huge turn-off. Besides, its degrading and patriachal, and won't score you much.

Assange has willingly offered to take the HIV test and go to Sweden for questioning - all of it, if Sweden will promise to NOT extradite him to the US.

Since the US is working on extraditing him, its a reasonable request.

Assange has also been willing to meet with the Swedish authorities in England for testing and questioning. They've declined, not him.

But you already knew all that too since its been mentioned on these boards at least 100x in the past 24 hours at least.

[treestar]

67. He should take the HIV test without bargaining like that!

And no, no victim gets to decide. In this type of case, women are known to drop charges or try to drop them because they were sweet talked or threatened by the perpetrator. This is Feminism 101. We are not allowed to condone crimes in Western Legal Systems. It is about the harm to society not the victim.

[brooklynite]

8. So, no need for a Criminal Justice system then...

...as long as a group of online bloggers can render a judgement.

I'll sleep more soundly tonight.

[sendero]

16. Don't worry...

... learn and understand the MF Global case and you will realize that there IS no justice system.

So no worries.

[cr8tvlde]

18. No, the information from the alleged victims should help you sleep.

[treestar]

10. How do we know that?

The 1% are busy doing other things.

Sweden is not known for having a terrible justice system, like say Iran. So why not answer the charges? People are acquitted of charges every day.

The 1% if they cared would be smart enough and crafty enough to frame him for something far worse.

[librechik]

15. there have been no charges. Merely allegations.

If there were charges, it would be easier to take this seriously.

If they had real evidence there would be charges, but they don't. So it's just a smear.

[fascisthunter]

22. that poster already KNOWS that

watch the propaganda...

[Zorra]

25. We've apparently hit a very sensitive nerve in the Borg collective.

[backscatter712]

27. Their persistence is amazing, isn't it? n/t

[backscatter712]

12. The US, UK and Sweden are trying to railroad him, and are using the broken condom case as a cover.

The fact that Sweden won't agree not to extradite Assange, and that the US won't agree to not seek extradition speaks loudly about their true intentions.

Also, the fact that the women themselves who are the subject of this case are saying they weren't raped and don't agree with the prosecution says the same thing - the sexual misconduct case is nothing but a fig leaf covering the true motives of those persecuting Assange.

[cr8tvlde]

19. Details, details. n/t

[fascisthunter]

21. and their maggot worms who have no soul

[SidDithers]

23. Swedish prosecutors seem to think there is a case...nt

Sid

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. But the women changed their stories doncha know? At least that's what we keep hearing.

Those poor women, if they were attacked, have every right to seek justice. And if their stories are truly false, Assange should take his ass back to Sweden and clear this up once and for all.

What Assange's ardent defenders won't admit however, is that he has very rich and powerful friends, like say the President of Ecuador, the wealthy people with whom he's lived all over Europe, and the fools he duped into sending him money online. Assange is the king of computer hacking, and I'm going to assume that he knows that community quite well. If his friends really wanted these women to retract their stories, they have the means to absolutely obliterate their lives, with a few well placed keystrokes.

Can you imagine being on the wrong end of a community of computer hackers? These women might be scared shitless, despite their protestations to the contrary. The good news is that the UK & Cameron won't bend to political pressure. The moment he steps his ass outside that damned embassy, he's on his way back to Sweden, whether he & his supporters like it or not.

[backscatter712]

29. But they weren't attacked.

The worst of this case is allegations that Assange had sex while wearing a broken condom, and had sex with a woman while she was sleeping. Note that in both cases, the women got in bed with him voluntarily, and the women themselves have said that Assange did not rape them.

If it were anyone but Assange, the prosecutor would have thrown this case out for lack of evidence, and one of the Swedish prosecutors did, before he was overruled.

[Robb]

57. So they deserved it. Nice.

If you let me in your house, can I beat you up? I mean, you let me in, right? That means you've given me permission to do whatever I want.

[backscatter712]

61. And now you're back to labeling and using strawmen.

Way to be intentionally obtuse.

The women themselves are refusing to participate in Assange's persecution.

But by all means, keep demeaning women and victims of sexual assault by using this case to promote your political agenda.

[Robb]

62. Your words are there for everyone to see.

But by all means keep digging.

[backscatter712]

63. You're the one stretching and distorting them. n/t

[sabrina 1]

65. Except that there was nothing from these women in the days after their

consensual sex with Assange, but glowing reports of how 'interesting' he was. Too bad those instant messages witnesses who spoke to them exist still, despite an effort to erase everything the women said from the internet.

And yes, their stories did change, from their very own words. So anyone with respect for women, unlike the lunatic lawyer who claims to represent them and believes that a woman cannot decide for herself if she was raped or not, would accept their own words.

Which is why no case has been filed. Because of the mountain of evidence from the women themselves which in a court of law, will be introduced. Two years is a long time if you have a case, not to have filed it. And when asked about the huge discrepancies between the women's own words and the Prosecution's claims, their only answer as late as last week, is 'Swedish Law is Confusing'.

Women's groups have condemned the way these women are being used for political purposes as it truly is shameful.

[dionysus]

28. they're bought off by the oligarchs, Sid.. quit dissing the movement. occupy.... vaht?

[dionysus]

26. he truly is the sweet bebe jeebus.. or.. bill maher doing performance art... you pick...

[Zorra]

33. You do realize that an entire DU subgroup has reached the end of its credibility in this thread?

Icing, meet cake.

[dionysus]

44. and that would be your's, by elevating this attention seeking hack to sainthood.

he's not all bad, he's not all good, but a "subgroup" of DU worships this guy the way they accuse Democrats of "worshipping" the President...

ASSANGE\MANNING 2012! he is the wiiiind, beneath my wiiiings....

[backscatter712]

45. All you've got is the "I'm rubber, you're glue" argument followed by a transparent strawman?

I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better argument than that!

[dionysus]

46. it's a statement of fact, sorry if that puts you out of sorts...

[Zorra]

50. LOL! No. Sorry, no dice. It's too late. We totally get it now.

I'd put this entire subgroup on ignore, but I don't do ignore, and I must reluctantly admit that I find it amusing to see posters on the internet, posters who have a clear and consistent long term questionable agenda, stuttering away while foundering in the mud of their phony agenda, when they are forced to defend this agenda when confronted with fact and logic contrary to the memes that they are compelled to support.

When posters with consistent patterns won't admit to something contrary to their agenda, something based on sources and facts, something that is blatantly obvious to the vast majority of other posters, things become perfectly clear to the majority.

One thing has now become totally clear to the majority...

Democrats rule, and the Third Way Party totally sucks.

[Puglover]

59. Right on sister! nt

[sabrina 1]

66. You can say that again. What upsets women's groups about this case is the way

those who oppose Wikileaks, are using women for political purposes. Naomi Wolf, who could never be accused of not standing up for women, in fact she has been slammed as a 'radical feminist' has spoken out on this case, along with Women's organizations. Few believe the faux claims of 'caring' about women. Just another instance of using women as tools in a big, political game which is despicable.

The CIA memo planning on 'involving Assange in a sex case' demonstrated how willing his political enemies are to use women as pawns in their dangerous games.

Not to mention how unconcerned these same, suddenly outraged individuals are over mere allegations, opponents of Assange, have zero interest in the Women of Iraq who were raped and tortured and who have received NO justice, many of them traumatized for life, some it is thought, having killed themselves. When it comes to those crimes, the same people will tell you to 'move on' because there is no way their rapists are going to be prosecuted. In fact a few of them have received 'medals of freedom'. When I see outrage again, as there was on the Left during the Bush years, rather than the sudden silence that has descended on these crimes, then those claiming outrage in this case, would have some credibility as to their concern for women.

[WillyT]

30. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!!

[Comrade_McKenzie]

31. Absolutely. And only an idiot buys it. nt

[99Forever]

32. Truth to power.

Always.

[WillyT]

34. Yeah... And Apparently... Some Of The 1% And Their Supporters Post Here...

Who knew ???

[HooptieWagon]

36. I guess one advantage of being a 1%er

is you can have "the help" post for you.

[backscatter712]

37. Didn't you know? That's a conspiracy theory!

Suggesting that power-elites, federal agencies, military or security contractors, right-wing think tanks or interest groups representing the powerful would employ people that would engage in psy-ops, disinformation, propagandizing or trolling here at DU is against the rules! After all, we must respect our fellow posters and engage in a civil and constructive dialogue.

So, let me write a hundred times more with Dolores Umbridge's blood quill...

There is no astroturfing at DU.
There is no astroturfing at DU.
There is no astroturfing at DU.
There is no astroturfing at DU. (Am I bleeding!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (WTF?!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (ow)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (OW!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (grimace)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (toughing it out)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (really struggling)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (please don't PPR me)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THE KITTENS!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (OW!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (I think I sliced a tendon!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (My hand's going numb!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (I'm going faint from the lack of blood!)
There is no astroturfing at DU. (My god, it's full of stars!)
There is no astrotur... (THUD!)

[HooptieWagon]

40. Oh, of course there's no astroturfing on DU.

It's accepted fact that the 1%ers have "the help" regularly do the chores for them. But that couldn't possibly occur on DU.

[backscatter712]

41. Nope. Astroturfing, propagandizing and psy-ops do not happen on DU.

To suggest otherwise would cause great offense to your fellow DUers and greatly disrupt the boards. Even if the accusations are true.

[HooptieWagon]

42. Well, as a civil DUer I certainly don't wish to offend

the non-existent astroturfers, propagandizers, and psy-opsers with truthful accusations.

[backscatter712]

43. Your Kung-Fu is getting stronger, Grasshopper! n/t

[dionysus]

48. alex jones style woo if you think everyone who doesn't agree with with you is

a paid black hat hack disparaging the true movement...

usually it's someone laughing at the melodrama and grandiosity...

[Zorra]

51. No; not everyone. Relatively few, in fact. nt

[backscatter712]

52. Most people just laughing at the melodrama don't spend 40+ hours a week at it.

Though I wouldn't want to accuse anyone of being paid to attack Assange on this site - I haven't seen his pay-stub yet.

[Bobbie Jo]

69. That looks interesting, can I try?

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (he's one of us!)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (K&R!)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (what a good progressive!)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (what kind of progressive are you anyway. You, you, right wing republican)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (cut/paste...watch the magic.)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (I'm listening...)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (I shall put you on ignore!)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (maybe she deserved it!)

Better Believe It. There's no astroturfiing on DU. (I can't believe they're actually buying this crap. HA, I'm sooo in! Suckers!)

btw....THIS was an astroturfer, make a note of it.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=217293&sub=trans

[Matariki]

54. Where better to try and turn public opinion against him -

Than a place where people are most likely supportive of him?

[woo me with science]

58. It says volumes about how sick and corrupted our party has become

that the largest, most visited Democratic discussion board on the internet now enables and supports this unrelenting, transparent shilling for the corrupt one percent...across issues.

[progressivebydesign]

35. All Assange All the Time. getting tired of hiding threads... isn't there a forum for this stuff?

it's like the day guns took over GD.

[Matariki]

55. If you're tired go take an nap

and stop posting in threads you aren't interested in

[laundry_queen]

38. And particularly in the US

Today on the news here in Canada, the anchor started the story by saying, ".....Assange has taken refuge in Ecuador's embassy to avoid being extradited to Sweden where he is wanted for questioning on a possible sexual misconduct charge. For more on the story here is <insert reporter's name here> from <insert major American news channel here>"

So the American reporter starts off...."blahblahblah, Julian Assange, a fugitive who is in hiding to avoid being extradited to face serious sexual assault charges and refuses to...blahblahblah....wanted by the US on spy charges....blahblahblah"

See the difference? It's subtle, but that right there is the difference between news and propaganda.

[backscatter712]

39. Exactly. This is why I don't watch much cable news anymore.

American news in particular is garbage.

[Fire Walk With Me]

47. K&R.

[ananda]

53. True dat.

Sigh

[woo me with science]

60. Under a Democratic President, no less.

Wake the hell up, America. This isn't a party-specific problem anymore. Assange is a warning to those who tell the truth about what our government has become. Wake the hell up.

[Kaleko]

64. This site is designed to keep the dream state intact.

[woo me with science]

68. Amen. Corporate tentacles run deep. nt

[backscatter712]

70. Yep!

Look at the tactics.

As long as we're fretting only about stupid shit like Chick-Fil-A, the fine folks we're talking about will cheer us on, pat us on the backs for being good Democrats.

But when we start talking about Julian Assange, or Occupy, waaaaaait a minute, that's not part of the program... And a large group of "loyal opposition" comes out, starts pooh-poohing, demoralizing, flaming, accusing supporters of being bad liberals that support misogyny/communism/anarchism/lawlessness, trying to stir up the idea that these ideas are toxic, controversial, divisive.

But of course, don't you know, there are no psy-ops, astroturfing or trolling on DU. Accusing fellow DUers of these acts or impugning their motives violates the norms of decorum and comity, because didn't you know, DU's just one big happy fucking family!