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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Abramson on Cohen. Unrolled. Great summation!
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1068918946982764545.html?refreshed=15436868031/ In his sentencing submission, Cohen makes it 100% CLEAR that Trump paid off former mistresses Daniels and McDougal EXPLICITLY to avoid their true stories of Trump's infidelity "adversely affect[ing] the [presidential] Campaign," confirming that Trump committed election crimes.
2/ A longtime defense issued by Trump's critics is that the timing of Trump's payoffs to Daniels and McDougal was both coincidental and solely intended to save his family from embarrassment (essentially, this was Trump using his wife and child as human shields to defend himself).
3/ Cohen's statement, previously part of an oral allocution but now submitted in writing, confirms that Trump received campaign contributions in a manner contrary to law. I'd add that this is another instance of Trump defrauding voters. Cohen's statement:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5348237-Sentencing-Submission.html
4/ Cohen's close consultation with Trump's legal counsel while he was committing the crime of lying to Congress raises the specter of Trump suborning perjury, witness tampering, and obstructing justice either by conspiracy (e.g. through his counsel) or by direct command to Cohen.
5/ I think Americans must understand that when the Mueller Report is given to DOJ sometime in mid-2019 (most likely), and after the weeks or months of legal battles thereafter allow Americans to see it, we will discover not one allegation of Trump committing a crime but *dozens*.
6/ It cannot be said enough times: DONALD TRUMP WAS NEGOTIATING A MASSIVE PERSONAL FINANCIAL BENEFIT WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN THROUGH MICHAEL COHEN AND A TOP KREMLIN OFFICIAL WHILE HE WAS PROMISING PUTIN A UNILATERAL END TO US-RUSSIA SANCTIONS. HE LIED TO VOTERS ABOUT THIS EVERY DAY.
7/ Take every event that happened from October 2015 through the RNC that involved Trump, and describe it in a sentence, and then add after that sentence, "And this happened while Trump was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin himself."
8/ When Papadopoulos told Trump that he was a Kremlin intermediary tasked with setting up a Trump-Putin backchannel, Trump made him a foreign policy aide. "And this happened while Trump was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin himself."
9/ Why did Trump not fire Papadopoulos? "He was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin." Why did Trump not call the FBI? "He was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin." That explains his actions.
10/ Why did Trump orderon March 31, 2016the members of his newly formed National Security Advisory Committee to change the RNC platform in Cleveland in July to dramatically benefit Putin? "He was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin."
11/ When Trump learned Putin had stolen Clinton emails, and when Putinvia WikiLeaksreleased the emails, why did Trump cheer? Wellbecause he's a criminal and wanted the White House. Also: "He was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin."
12/ Why did Trump want Cohen to say negotiations with Putin ended pre-Iowa? Because he knew he'd be accused of defrauding voters if anyone knew "he was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Putin" while lying daily re: the basis for his Russia policy.
13/ Trump defrauded American voters to win the 2016 presidential election: of that there's no longer any doubt. He defrauded voters about Daniels; he defrauded voters about McDougal; he defrauded voters about Putin. He defrauded voters just as he's defrauded hundreds in business.
14/ We had proof of collusion before this week's eventsit's itemized in PROOF OF COLLUSION. But this week we learned that Cohen kept Trump apprised of *all* conversations involving the Trump-Rozov Trump Tower Moscow dealwhich would include gifting Putin a $50 million penthouse.
15/ By the time the plot to gift Putin a $50 million penthouse was hatcheda plot Sater wanted Cohen to perfect via a trip to Moscow to meet Putin and Peskov in July 2016the campaign knew Putin had stolen Clinton emails and knew that Russians were suspected of hacking Americans.
16/ Trump is not just guilty of election crimes; he's not just guilty of bribery; he's not just guilty of obstruction of justice and witness tampering; he's also guilty of aiding and abetting crimes against Americato wit, the computer crimes his COVERT business dealings INDUCED.
17/ Let me state it plainly: Trump's business dealings with the Kremlin, Kremlin agents, and Kremlin allies, which started *years* before he announced his run and continued through the campaign, not only led to him defrauding voters but inducingdeliberatelyan attack on America.
18/ After the attack occurred, Trump conspired with our enemies to disorient voters, tamper with witnesses, and thwart federal law enforcement's efforts to detect Trump's grievous crimes. This course of obstruction was systematic, premeditated, and thoroughly *corrupt* in intent.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)19/ 25% of the country is lost. No matter what the facts reveal, they'll take a position on criminal justice the likes of which they've never taken when it was an average American in the metaphorical dockany crime can be forgiven if the defendant has the right party affiliation.
20/ I wrote PROOF OF COLLUSIONwhich chronicles Trump's treacheryand I run this feed, which tracks its course daily, because it's time for America to return to sanity, our democratic principles, the rule of law, and a commitment to peace, stability, and *honest* government. /end
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Isn't it?
triron
(21,999 posts)I thought Ari was a little shocked at that description and was not sure how to respond. I continue to think the MSM, including MSNBC, soft peddles what Trump has done.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... haven't admitted to was the causality and no one in their right minds is going to believe Benedict Donald's Kremlin KKKlan about shit now.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)he worked with a foreign power to get elected.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)"By firing squad or the guillotine?".
Botany
(70,490 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 2, 2018, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)
Funny, he knew the country to ask Russia, and the # of emails which was 30,000.
BTW I would be worried if they used the guillotine on Mitch McTurtle you
know with his shell getting in the way.
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)can only be committed during war. Here is an article from last year that dispels myths about treason: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-treason/2017/02/17/8b9eb3a8-f460-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.09edf29d60a2
But I share the opinion that Russia sabotaging our elections was an act of war and therefore Trump's actions should be considered treason. However, I don't think it will hold up in a court of law.
I pray the universe proves me wrong.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)answered the question of whether they had had sex with Donwald:
"I think so, but I can't be sure. We must have, but I couldn't tell, really. I mean, well..."
Roland99
(53,342 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)..... "And this happened while Trump was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin himself."
Got IT!
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Look at the oil money too.
samnsara
(17,619 posts)."He was secretly negotiating a multi-billion dollar real estate deal with Vladimir Putin."
Auggie
(31,163 posts)I'm not implying it didn't happen, just how it got past the FBI, DOJ, State Department, IRS, Financial regulators, etc.
D23MIURG23
(2,849 posts)So it didn't get past them in the sense of them being unaware. It just takes time to gather evidence and use it to lay out a case sufficient for bringing charges.
lilactime
(657 posts)So glad his book is a best seller.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief has bigly screwed up another one. He failed to deliver for Pooty Poot, and Pooty Poot is going spanky spank on the ignoble republican misleader.
All the republicans is hazing a sad.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)submissively allowing the ACTS OF WAR perpetrated against the USA and against American democracy.
Traitors.