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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:21 AM

Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as 'Human Shields'

One lies, this one swears to it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kirstjen-nielsen-gassed-border-children-were-being-used-as-human-shields?ref=home

1. DOUBLING DOWN2 hours ago
Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as ‘Human Shields’
Reuters / Kim Kyung-Hoon


The Trump administration is doubling down on its use of tear gas on women and children at the Mexican border, with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen speculating without evidence that vulnerable people were used as “human shields” by migrants. Shocking photographs showed border agents deploying tear gas against people seeking asylum in the U.S. on Sunday, including young girls wearing diapers. In a lengthy statement late Monday, Nielsen speculated the women and children were used tactically by a migrant group. “It appears in some cases that the limited number of women and children in the caravan are being used by the organizers as ‘human shields’ when they confront law enforcement,” she wrote on Facebook. “They are being put at risk by the caravan organizers as we saw at the Mexico-Guatemala border. This is putting vulnerable people in harm’s way.” The unverified allegation is similar to one offered by President Trump on Monday evening, when he said “grabbers” take children to protect themselves from harm.

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Reply Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as 'Human Shields' (Original post)
babylonsister Nov 27 OP
octoberlib Nov 27 #1
vlyons Nov 27 #2
MrsCoffee Nov 27 #9
allgood33 Nov 27 #16
vlyons Nov 27 #19
Sherman A1 Nov 27 #3
spanone Nov 27 #4
superpatriotman Nov 27 #5
treestar Nov 27 #8
superpatriotman Nov 27 #13
deminks Nov 27 #6
Jim__ Nov 27 #7
VOX Nov 27 #10
GoCubsGo Nov 27 #11
Celerity Nov 27 #15
workinclasszero Nov 27 #17
beachbum bob Nov 27 #12
workinclasszero Nov 27 #14
Hortensis Nov 27 #18
peekaloo Nov 27 #20
Hortensis Nov 27 #21
Johonny Nov 27 #22

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:23 AM

1. She's fookin' despicable.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:24 AM

2. Even if true,

It's still morally wrong to gas unarmed women and children. Period!

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Response to vlyons (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:51 AM

9. Exactly.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:28 AM

16. What do you mean by "even if true?"

How the f**k do you use anyone as a human shield against tear gas? Everyone has to breathe for themselves.

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Response to allgood33 (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:56 AM

19. Even if true implies

the assumption that it's not true. "Even if" is a rhetorical device.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:38 AM

3. I wonder why this individual

Is not in jail for contempt of court.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:39 AM

4. she's as disgusting as the man who hired her.

Lying must be a prerequisite to join the trump cabal

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:41 AM

5. This argument reminds me of another country with border issues

It's right from their playbook

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:51 AM

8. along with accusations of rock throwing

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Response to treestar (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:00 AM

13. Spin everything

To justify anything

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:46 AM

6. Cruella with the yellow hair has no credibility. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:50 AM

7. A human shield against tear gas?

What, were the children breathing for the adults?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:54 AM

10. What a steaming load of right-wing propaganda bullshit.

They ALWAYS blame the weak, the victim, the innocent, and the non-existent.

A Republican will suddenly punch you in the jaw, then complain that you put your face right in front of their hand, and thus they have no choice but to bring criminal charges.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:57 AM

11. Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS is full of shit.

What's even worse than her lie is the fact that she thinks that it makes it justifiable to hurl tear gas tat toddlers.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:23 AM

15. ...

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Response to Celerity (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:30 AM

17. Reichsfuhrer Nielsen: I was just following the orders of mein fuhrer Trump

Seig Heil!!!!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:59 AM

12. she wil be in front of a house committee in 6 weeks to explain to the american people on camera

how gassing women and children is acceptable response

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:08 AM

14. YES!

I want to see this nazi explain to the American people how these "dangerous" children in diapers were such a deadly threat to Trump's Gestapo that they were forced to gas them!!!!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:43 AM

18. Ms. To-Prison-for-Those-Who-Boycott-Israel

could be right. (Gillebrand's shocking S.720, Israel Anti-Boycott Act)

I don't know what happened here, but I do know that pushing women and children to the front in hopes that'll force opponents to hold off attack is a common tactic. Remember the Bundy standoff when those armed men put unarmed women, and I believe maybe even children, between them and federal agents?

I've been wondering how it is 5000 people arrived so soon when these groups would typically take most of another month to get to San Diego. That's also several hundred miles farther than the nearest TX border crossing.

There's obviously organization here, perhaps more than just from that migrant aid group who couldn't begin to provide transportation for thousands before this. It's also reasonable to suspect that troublemaking agents may have infiltrated this group with a very different agenda from those so desperate that they set out for a little 3000-mile walk with their children, if not children themselves.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:59 AM

20. Do you suppose the Mexican government is assisting Thump on this?

I saw a CBS report last night with truckloads of migrants being escorted to Tijuana. While the journalist's focus was on one young woman from Honduras it seemed strange they were being rerouted to the California border.

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Response to peekaloo (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:33 AM

21. Hm. Let's say I don't suspect Mexico of assisting Trump.

Mexico has its own huge problems with immigration and migration and now also huge problems with Rump and the U.S. I'm pretty sure both Pena Nieto and Lopez Obrador must regard him with profound contempt and distrust, something they have in common.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:41 AM

22. I wonder if she's still on Trump's cut list. In fact, the whole he's changing everyone sort of went

away funny. huh

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