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Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:43 PM

The Biggest Reveal: Mueller Knew Manafort Was Lying and WHY

Truths, lies, half-truths, and all the shades between... each one is revealing to frame of mind and context. Mueller knew when Manafort was lying, what it was about, and now he know’s why. Thanks Manafort for being the predictable chump you are. When you know a supposedly cooperating witness is lying and why, it gives you the keys to the kingdom in taking apart the criminal organization as a whole. Mueller can now prove frame of mind, motive and intent. It is also revealing that Mueller’s case against Trump’s crime organization is based predominantly on concrete evidence, not on any shady testimony that Trump’s goons would provide.

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Reply The Biggest Reveal: Mueller Knew Manafort Was Lying and WHY (Original post)
berni_mccoy Nov 26 OP
orangecrush Nov 26 #1
democratisphere Nov 26 #2
unblock Nov 26 #7
ChazInAz Nov 26 #20
lastlib Nov 26 #21
Raster Nov 27 #25
berni_mccoy Nov 27 #31
True Blue American Nov 28 #37
orangecrush Nov 26 #17
Botany Nov 26 #3
eggplant Nov 26 #19
Turbineguy Nov 27 #27
babylonsister Nov 26 #4
Wounded Bear Nov 26 #9
babylonsister Nov 26 #15
wishstar Nov 26 #16
brush Nov 26 #5
erronis Nov 26 #8
brush Nov 26 #14
Jersey Devil Nov 26 #6
blugbox Nov 27 #34
Scurrilous Nov 26 #10
FakeNoose Nov 26 #11
0rganism Nov 26 #12
Hoyt Nov 26 #13
Jersey Devil Nov 27 #28
Hoyt Nov 27 #32
True Blue American Nov 28 #38
George II Nov 26 #18
sarcasmo Nov 26 #22
MontanaMama Nov 26 #23
NastyRiffraff Nov 26 #24
mucifer Nov 27 #26
uponit7771 Nov 27 #29
berni_mccoy Nov 27 #30
True Blue American Nov 28 #39
autorank Nov 27 #33
Cary Nov 27 #35
Linda Ed Nov 27 #36
malaise Nov 28 #40
kentuck Nov 28 #41

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:45 PM

1. Mueller



Is a Grandmaster.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:48 PM

2. Mueller's abilities are mind blowing; like he is omniscient!

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:00 PM

7. To be fair, he's investigating such bumbling idiots....

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Response to unblock (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

20. True.

They just can't seem to avoid stepping on their own d**ks.

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Response to ChazInAz (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:50 PM

21. ...which is a feat, considering.........

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Response to lastlib (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:08 AM

25. SNAP!

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Response to lastlib (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:09 AM

31. Heh.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:47 AM

37. LOL

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:44 PM

17. Definitely an artist.


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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:51 PM

3. Please remember Mueller took down John Gotti

He knows how to deal with organized crime. My guess is that he got Trump's written answers and then looked at Manafort's answers.

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Response to Botany (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:23 PM

19. From "Sneakers"

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Response to eggplant (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:10 AM

27. Manafort should get

23 years in the electric chair.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:52 PM

4. I wonder if any of his testimony is admissable.

He's been chatting with Mueller for a very long time. Some things he revealed must be true.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:08 PM

9. Everything Mueller has discussed with Manafort has been recorded...

It's what they do.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:35 PM

15. Yes, but since I posted that

I've heard that it's not admissible but Mueller knew he was lying. So there's that.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:42 PM

16. On MSNBC, former DOJ officials said he now cannot be considered a credible witness

therefore his testimony will not be provided to the Grand Jury or used in court to obtain indictments or convictions.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:53 PM

5. Manafort must've thought he was still the shrewd operator he was...

in Ukraine. Hard to outsmart Mueller's team when you're locked up.

He must be really afraid of what waits for him from Putin if he rats out trump.

Good luck with that pardon wish but trump will throw his ass and everybody else's under the bus to save himself.

Maybe he'll save the czarina, hoping he'll finally get to...

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Response to brush (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:06 PM

8. Whoa there. You're not intimating intimate stuff, right? What a twisted family. And a morally

bankrupt party and bankers to allow them to poison the executive branch.

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Response to erronis (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:31 PM

14. Yep, you know the deal too.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:55 PM

6. The Force is what gives a Jedi his power.

It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.

Cogito ergo Mueller

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:52 PM

34. Oh c'mon

Everyone knows it's how many microscopic little bugs are living in you!

I'm sure Mueller has over 20,000!

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:11 PM

10. K&R

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:12 PM

11. Mueller's playing a 3D chess game

... while Manafort, Papadopoulos and others can barely manage checkers.



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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:14 PM

12. this time, maybe Yoda kicks Palpatine's ass and arrests him

i always did want to see that version...

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:28 PM

13. Must have missed, what concrete evidence and how does it impact trump?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:11 AM

28. We'll find out soon

Flynn, Cohen, others who have already cooperated may have known about lines of communication between the Trump campaign, and perhaps Trump himself, and Assange and Russia. It could be that Trump himself doesn't know that they knew about those communications. If Mueller has them, in writing, Trump is screwn.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:40 AM

32. Could be. But, if it doesn't take trump down, it's just a bunch of crooks trying to get

trump elected. They need to be prosecuted, but trump is still sitting in office nominating judges, veto any decent legislation that reaches his desk, etc.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:49 AM

38. Do not forget McGhan!

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:48 PM

18. Situations like this remind me of that classic scene in the Cincinnati Kid after the big poker game:

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:52 PM

22. It's only Monday, I'm amped for this week.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:58 PM

23. I was ready for Manafort news today.

Rachel told us a week and a half ago that Mueller had asked for a 10 day extension on the Manafort case which puts us at TODAY. Could be a bumpy week.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:33 PM

24. Probable conversations with Manafort

His Lawyers: WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LIE! You'll be in big fucking trouble if you lie! Don't do it! SAY IT! Say I WON'T LIE!

Mueller's team: Look at what you're signing, Paul. Read it carefully. You must cooperate in all ways, and above all YOU CANNOT LIE! EVER! Read it and tell us you understand everything. Especially the part about lying.

Manafort's wife: Paul, don't be an idiot like usual. You can't lie to these people. It's a crime. You could spend the rest of your life...wait. Maybe you should lie.

Manafort: I can get away with it. They'll never find out. I'm smarter than...

Judge: *pounds gavel*

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:55 AM

26. I think either manafort believes he will be pardoned or he fears what

the russians would do to his family. Either way Mueller lost the testimony he was counting on.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:19 AM

29. He fears for his family, the Russians will kill his kids and wife first then him yrs later

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Response to mucifer (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:09 AM

30. I don't think Mueller was counting on testimony

They have enough already to know when Manafort was lying, what it concerned and why.

Information is revealed when a suspect lies and this information can be as useful if not moreso than testimony.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:54 AM

39. Mueller does not need

Manafort’s testimony. He knew he was lying from the beginning. He is in jail right now because he contacted those he was not supposed to. Mueller is used to dealing with smarter criminals than this bunch of Keystone Kops.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:39 PM

33. K&R

You nailed it. Meuller also forced Trump's hand on the written questions and, I'm sure, confronted Manafort with Trump's responses, which were more revealing not knowing why Meuller got his deal.

Also, there is about zero doubt in my mind that there is some video/photographic evidence that Manafort entered the Ecuadorian embassy on several occasions. Assange is no journalist and Manafort is no civil libertarian in London to support Assange's claims of persecution.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:40 PM

35. We have to wait and aee

I just hope justice is served because it will be heartbreaking if it isn't.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:42 PM

36. Can't wait

I can't wait! The conclusion is almost crystal clear. The story of a president compromising American foreign policy in exchange for financial gain and covert election assistance.

Because he expects a pardon from Trump, Manafort felt free to lie to investigators while also acting as a “mole” for Trump, feeding him information about what he falsely told Mueller, according to national security journalist Marcy Wheeler, writing on her Empty Wheel site.

As a result, Trump’s written answers to Mueller’s questions, which Trump submitted last week as CNN reported, are likely to be “full of lies,” Wheeler wrote.
The journalist, who herself has given information to the FBI in the Russia case, according to the Washington Post, wrote that “Mueller’s team appears to have no doubt that Manafort was lying to them. That means they didn’t really need his testimony, at all. It also means they had no need to keep secrets — they could keep giving Manafort the impression that he was pulling a fast one over the prosecutors, all while reporting misleading information to Trump.”

But deceiving Trump into, in all likelihood, parroting Manafort’s lies in his written answers to Mueller — which would also serve as evidence that Manafort was acting as a Trump spy within the investigation — Wheeler says that Mueller has now given himself an opportunity to air his collusion evidence in open court.

Mueller has proposed a way to put Donald Trump, and the facts about Donald Trump, on trial without the slightest chance of executive privilege being asserted, successfully or unsuccessfully. And Manafort, thug that he is, fumbled and crime'd himself right into this trap.”
https://www.inquisitr.com/5181923/robert-mueller-set-trap-for-trump-russia-collusion-paul-manafort/

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:59 AM

40. It's Mueller time

He's got the scumbags

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:59 AM

41. But, will he indict?

The word is that "a sitting president cannot be indicted"?

Does Mueller agree with that?

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