Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:14 PM

What if Trump openly obstructs justice by pardoning Manafort.

Because that is going to happen.

Just you wait.

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What if Trump openly obstructs justice by pardoning Manafort. (Original post)	Le Gaucher	Nov 2018	OP
While a very likely scenario, it is unlikely that obstructions charges will be used against him for	still_one	Nov 2018	#1
Manafort can still be charged for numerous crimes at the state level	htuttle	Nov 2018	#2
won't matter if the speculation we are seeing tonight is true..	Grasswire2	Nov 2018	#3
I hope you are right nt	demsocialist	Nov 2018	#4
I just wrote the same thing on another post.	BigmanPigman	Nov 2018	#5
One of the things I believe a Dem controlled congress should work on	Jake Stern	Nov 2018	#6

Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:19 PM

still_one (87,290 posts)

1. While a very likely scenario, it is unlikely that obstructions charges will be used against him for

any pardon.

What hopefully will be done, is when the Democrats take over the House in a few weeks, they will make this all public

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:20 PM

htuttle (23,738 posts)

2. Manafort can still be charged for numerous crimes at the state level

And Trump digs himself deeper.

It's starting to feel like the end of this comes down to how willing the remaining Senate R's will be to go down with him.

That's just regarding the end of Trump's presidency. I'm becoming more sure that the end of his life will be in prison or Russia. Perhaps both.

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:26 PM

Grasswire2 (12,922 posts)

3. won't matter if the speculation we are seeing tonight is true..

...that Mueller set Manafort up and Manafort tripped the trap by passing info to Trump.

Let's hope Trump hears that news while he's on stage tonight.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:27 PM

demsocialist (202 posts)

4. I hope you are right nt

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:28 PM

BigmanPigman (48,833 posts)

5. I just wrote the same thing on another post.

I have the feeling that Corsi and Papadopoulos are going to attempt that now too.

Manafort will still be charged with money laundering at the state level, right?

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:31 PM

Jake Stern (3,143 posts)

6. One of the things I believe a Dem controlled congress should work on

is proposing an amendment to limit the pardon power of the president.

The proposed amendment bar the president from:

- Pardoning him/herself and his/her family under any circumstance.
- Pardoning former Presidents and Vice Presidents, Cabinet members, Senators and Reps.
- Issuing unilateral pardons of anyone else.

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