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malaise | Nov 2018 | OP |
AZ8theist | Nov 2018 | #1 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #2 | |
Renew Deal | Nov 2018 | #37 | |
True Dough | Nov 2018 | #3 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #4 | |
elocs | Nov 2018 | #17 | |
True Dough | Nov 2018 | #18 | |
Downtown Hound | Nov 2018 | #23 | |
CincyDem | Nov 2018 | #26 | |
Downtown Hound | Nov 2018 | #27 | |
elocs | Nov 2018 | #38 | |
Downtown Hound | Nov 2018 | #39 | |
Downtown Hound | Nov 2018 | #40 | |
JHan | Nov 2018 | #5 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #6 | |
JHan | Nov 2018 | #9 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #10 | |
suffragette | Nov 2018 | #30 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #32 | |
suffragette | Nov 2018 | #33 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #34 | |
suffragette | Nov 2018 | #35 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #36 | |
Thyla | Nov 2018 | #7 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2018 | #11 | |
Thyla | Nov 2018 | #24 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2018 | #8 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #12 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2018 | #13 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #14 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2018 | #15 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #16 | |
Blue_true | Nov 2018 | #25 | |
OnDoutside | Nov 2018 | #29 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Nov 2018 | #20 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #21 | |
suffragette | Nov 2018 | #31 | |
Gothmog | Nov 2018 | #19 | |
triron | Nov 2018 | #22 | |
malaise | Nov 2018 | #28 |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:13 AM
AZ8theist (4,373 posts)
1. GOOD!
Let the citizens have another referendum.
This time without the Putin ratfucking!!! |
Response to AZ8theist (Reply #1)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:20 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
2. Putin and the Con
As in Bannon.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:13 AM
True Dough (13,964 posts)
3. That old adage...
"You've made your bed, now lie in it" fully applies in this situation, IMO.
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Response to True Dough (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:21 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
4. Yep
She even congratulated the Con on his success in the midterms.
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Response to True Dough (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:20 AM
elocs (21,628 posts)
17. Might not others in the world say the same of our election of Trump? n/t
Response to elocs (Reply #17)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 12:02 PM
True Dough (13,964 posts)
18. Sadly, yes
It stinks for those who opposed Trump and opposed Brexit, but the voters had their say (although there are rightfully questions about the voting process). But there's no turning back on Brexit and no turning back on Trump, so until a new government is in place and can reverse course or make major adjustments, serious consequences will be realized.
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Response to elocs (Reply #17)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:20 PM
Downtown Hound (12,618 posts)
23. They would have a point but
Remember that Trump did not get a majority of votes. He's an undemocratically elected leader.
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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:33 PM
CincyDem (5,195 posts)
26. Unfortunately. Only half that is true.
Less popular vote. Check.
But...as you well know, our “democratic” process are based on the electoral college. I’m not a fan but we consider 271ev as the win. |
Response to CincyDem (Reply #26)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:39 PM
Downtown Hound (12,618 posts)
27. You can call it a democratic process all you want
But if somebody with less votes wins then it is inherently undemocratic.
North Korea call themselves the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. I don't think anybody's really buying that one. |
Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:52 PM
elocs (21,628 posts)
38. You know as well as everybody should that our presidents are not elected
by popular vote. And if Hillary had won in the same way as Trump did you wouldn't hear a peep here about him winning the popular vote.
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Response to elocs (Reply #38)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:55 PM
Downtown Hound (12,618 posts)
39. Gee, thanks for the civics lesson that I so did not need
Yes, I am aware of how our system works. And it is not democratic. Have a nice day.
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Response to elocs (Reply #38)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:02 PM
Downtown Hound (12,618 posts)
40. Oh and, if we were to ever win an election the same way you better believe I wouldn't complain about
it. But that has way more to do with the fact that the Repukes have now won that way twice so turnabout is fair play. It wouldn't be because I think that the electoral college is a good or democratic thing.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:28 AM
JHan (10,173 posts)
5. a hot mess all around.
and all so unnecessary.
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Response to JHan (Reply #5)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:35 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
6. After what she did to our Windrush folks and their descendants
I wish her no good. She's just another racist monster.
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Response to malaise (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:37 AM
JHan (10,173 posts)
9. good to see push back against it , though the way they've drawn up the compensation rules
reeks of fuckery.
"compensation".. how about not fucking deporting people who have been there decades, paying fucking taxes and contributing to the economy. |
Response to JHan (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:40 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
10. Not just that but deporting people who helped England country recover
after WW2. She was Home Secretary when thie madness started.
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Response to malaise (Reply #10)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:30 PM
suffragette (12,232 posts)
30. Didn't know about her role in that. Figures. Just vile.
Response to suffragette (Reply #30)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:38 PM
malaise (246,603 posts)
32. She is the enforcer- here's an excellent read
She pushed this vile racist crap when she was at the Home Office - doesn't know crap about Windrush folks history. They begged our people to come after theirs were killed in the war.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/01/may-windrush-victims-hostile-environment |
Response to malaise (Reply #32)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:55 PM
suffragette (12,232 posts)
33. Thanks for this link. It is truly vile and racist what May and her crew have done to people who
came to the UK in the spirit of helpfulness and hard work.
On another note, I’m a fan of “Great British Menu” and it was wonderful seeing so many top chefs in the UK bring more positive attention to the contributions made by the Windrush generation during their tribute to the NHS season. |
Response to suffragette (Reply #33)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:00 PM
malaise (246,603 posts)
34. I didn't see that
I need to look for it. Thanks.
What was done will never be forgiven. What's interesting is that Brexit means they now need more economic ties with us so the fake apology had to come. |
Response to malaise (Reply #34)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:36 PM
suffragette (12,232 posts)
35. It's a full series each year. Look for series 13, episode 7 for one of the Windrush tributes.
There were more, but can’t think of which episodes they were in at the moment.
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Response to suffragette (Reply #35)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:40 PM
malaise (246,603 posts)
36. Thanks
Will look for it
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:35 AM
Thyla (791 posts)
7. This whole shit show
Would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
The sheer level of incompetence over the last couple of years is staggering. If you think it's fucked now wait for that creepy bastard Rees-Mogg to be in charge. |
Response to Thyla (Reply #7)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:41 AM
OnDoutside (19,299 posts)
11. Moggie couldn't even get 48 letters to trigger a leadership contest ! He is a creep though, and is
so hypocritical, he moved his investment company to Dublin, in preparation for Brexit !
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/jacob-rees-mogg-s-group-launches-second-irish-fund-1.3573675 |
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:34 PM
Thyla (791 posts)
24. That's true
The cretins are all waiting to for the vote on the bill first, if it doesn't pass then it's going to get messy. As you said in another post, not many options left for poor Theresa.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:37 AM
OnDoutside (19,299 posts)
8. Hi Malaise
![]() We should be clear, May was ALWAYS in trouble ! She's only in the position because those cowards (Johnson, Davies, Gove etc) didn't want to be the one going down in history as having "delivered" Brexit. May doesn't have a long term future as PM....push is coming to shove. Also, the Brexit deal she agreed to, just allows the UK to trade under the EU umbrella, until they get their shit together (which could be years). During that time, they will have given up their MEPs, any EU Commissioners and probably representation at Prime Ministerial level meetings. The plan put out by Downing Street, basically gives her 3 attempts at trying to get this through. If she fails at that point, then she either resigns, calls a General Election or goes to a Referendum (I think there may well be two, as there are three options). |
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:42 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
12. Great post!
May she go down with her fellow racists.
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Response to malaise (Reply #12)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:54 AM
OnDoutside (19,299 posts)
13. She'll sail off into the sunset with a nice pension and a seat in the House of Lords if she wants.
Whoever takes over from her will have a far less easy time !
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #13)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:57 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
14. True
What is Cameron up to these days?
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Response to malaise (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:09 AM
OnDoutside (19,299 posts)
15. Probably having regular porkial relations ;) There are noises that he wants to have his say.
Needless to say, it is not being received well !
In truth, if you had a choice between Blair, Cameron or the Clap, the Clap is looking a lot better !!! ![]() |
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #15)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:10 AM
malaise (246,603 posts)
16. Hahaha
Great point
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #15)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:28 PM
Blue_true (31,259 posts)
25. What is porkial? Never saw that word before used. nt
Response to Blue_true (Reply #25)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:22 PM
OnDoutside (19,299 posts)
29. Sorry.
In Cameron's Oxford university days, he allegedly fucked a pig's head as part of a society initiation.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggate |
Response to malaise (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:09 PM
muriel_volestrangler (98,132 posts)
20. He's writing his memoirs, and putting out feelers about a return to politics
which got roundly laughed at (he thought he'd make a jolly decent Foreign Secretary, apparently). The memoirs are, I guess, proving a bit difficult to spin positively. "How I Screwed GB as Well as a Pig" isn't a title people would pay for.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/david-cameron-foreign-secretary |
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #20)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:11 PM
malaise (246,603 posts)
21. Hilarious
Thanks
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:33 PM
suffragette (12,232 posts)
31. Great post. Yeah, the way she became PM always struck me as the classic image of an Army 'volunteer"
with everyone else taking a deliberate step back to leave her alone in the front.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 01:56 PM
Gothmog (115,375 posts)
19. The UK needs to have a new vote on Brexit
Response to triron (Reply #22)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:40 PM
malaise (246,603 posts)
28. Here
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/15/six-possible-scenarios-in-light-of-theresa-may-brexit-deal
Six possible scenarios in light of Theresa May's Brexit deal If draft withdrawal agreement is rejected this could trigger vote of no confidence, snap election or people’s vote |