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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:38 PM

Shout out to Michael Moore who did not want overconfidence in democrats

on election day. Remember early afternoon exit polls in the 2004 election giving John Kerry the win resulted in dems not going to the polls later on in the day? So Bush won. Who is with me!! Moore is brilliant and more often or not a predictor of the truth. He saw Trump winning but people didn't listen. The people he lit a fire under last week no doubt made the difference on Tuesday where margins were tight.

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Reply Shout out to Michael Moore who did not want overconfidence in democrats (Original post)
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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:41 PM

1. He cares. He stands for justice. He stands face to face with power... LOVE HIM n/t

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Response to wroberts189 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:49 PM

35. I like Nancy Pelosi's position on it. She predicted we would win...

and she was right. She gave Dems confidence and we came out and voted out repugs.

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Response to brush (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:59 AM

54. I like the class half full and half empty perspectives

keeps it real.

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Response to elmac (Reply #54)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:26 PM

109. How are the video sales of moore's flop of a movie doing?

No one went to see this flop and so moore is trying to get attention in other ways

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #109)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:29 PM

111. another comment that tRump and putin would love

knocking fellow progressives should be an instant kick from DU.

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Response to elmac (Reply #111)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:19 PM

121. "Michael Moore calls Obama a 'huge disappointment"

Moore continued: “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered. He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, (it’ll be noted that) he was the first black American that got elected president. And that’s it — eight years of your life and that’s what people will remember.”>

https://nypost.com/2014/09/11/michael-moore-calls-obama-a-huge-disappointment/


BULLSHIT "..that's all people will remember about President Obama". That's what Moore wishes.. ain't gonna happen. MM is jealous of President Obama.

Moore is the one who's helping those against Democracy.

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Response to elmac (Reply #111)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:49 PM

122. Bookmarking. n/t

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Response to elmac (Reply #111)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:49 AM

134. Moore is a faux-gressive and hails Bust folks

He practically made nonvoters out to be saints when he was on Chris Hayes' show

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Response to brush (Reply #35)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:33 AM

125. Honestly, I think Pelosi saying, "We're going to win the House back."...hurt us on election.

Almost a week before the election she went on Colbert saying Dems would win it. That is Election 101....you never make comments like that a week before an election. It is like an invitation for dem voters to stay home.

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Response to bobGandolf (Reply #125)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:20 AM

126. Hah! It sure didn't work out that way, did it.

She obviously had internal polling data, as did the repugs. All were predicting a big Dem win and that's what happened.

It was no secret.

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Response to brush (Reply #126)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 03:43 AM

129. Seriously?

Everyone knows, YOU NEVER SAY comments like Pelosi did a week before the election. It almost guarantees friendly voters will rationalize not needing to vote.
Look how close the high profile races in Texas, Florida, and Georgia are..... it takes very few staying home to change the outcome. YOU, NOR ANYONE ELSE, can justify PELOSI making such a statement...more than once.

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Response to bobGandolf (Reply #129)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 03:52 AM

131. That's one way of looking at it. Another is voters like to see leaders show confidence.

Campaigns often extol candidates as the "next senator/representative/judge/sheriff" of wherever. You know, showing confidence of an upcoming win. Nothing usual about that at all.

The blue wave happened. What are you complaining about?

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Response to wroberts189 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:09 AM

79. I am amused that anyone pays attention to moore

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Response to Post removed (Reply #113)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:40 PM

116. Who is aligning with trump and putin? I thought we're talking about Michael Moore here.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 04:56 PM

117. He's a total flim-flam man. A con artist. Not a friend of Democrats.

I can't stand him.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:42 PM

2. it seems we always need to be a few points above the margin of error

some people dont want to admit in polls that they are racist and some dems end up not voting.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:44 PM

6. Dems are not as rich and often have kids at home that need looking after

and it is also therefore not so easy for them to vote with no car, no extra time off work, etc... too.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:11 AM

45. and gerrymandering too

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Response to KSNY (Reply #45)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:19 AM

47. Oh yes. Harder to get to your voting place too. GOP counts on it.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:43 PM

3. THANK YOU, a'g.

MAYBE we can end the hatefest!

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Response to elleng (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:44 PM

7. Oh I think going after MM is a GOP meme.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:47 PM

8. But it's SO common around here,

'old timers' among the 'leaders.'

I usually don't comment when they do it, but HAD to say something today.

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:49 PM

11. I'm glad you did. I started another OP to get even more positive responders.

You inspired me.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:51 PM

14. ;-)

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Response to elleng (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:52 PM

15. .

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:53 PM

16. .

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:44 PM

34. +1000

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:09 AM

42. Don't pay 'em any mind.

We had a great week and they want to stir it up for some reason.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:19 AM

48. I usually don't,

this is the first time felt I had to say something.

Won't happen again.

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Response to elleng (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:46 AM

102. It should happen again,this was a nice thing. It was obvious to a lot of

people what he was saying and doing. He hasn't always done the perfect thing, like what he said about Gore and Bush but he has atoned for that and he has been a great ally . He doesn't need to give them another pound of flesh.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #102)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:33 PM

108. Thanks, Autumn.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:00 PM

23. Is that why his movie bombed?

I know that I pay not attention to moore and I doubt that many democrats did. I am amused that you think that anyone but his supporters care what moore thinks

I am still amused by how badly his last movie bombed.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:03 PM

24. Some of his movies bomb. Some hit it out of the ball park. Same as

almost any director.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:07 PM

26. His last movie bombed and bombed badly

These numbers are really sad http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/michael-moores-fahrenheit-11-9-isnt-doing-great.html

The early box office returns aren’t looking good for filmmaker Michael Moore’s latest film Fahrenheit 11/9. According to The Hollywood Reporter, barring a Sunday surge in viewership, Moore’s film will come in at eighth place for the weekend. For perspective, in 2004, Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in 868 locations and earned $23.9 million; Fahrenheit 11/9 opened this weekend in 1,719 theaters and on Friday earned just over $1 million. Assassination Nation and Dan Fogelman’s Life Itself also opened this weekend with less than spectacular numbers, so far earning even less than Fahrenheit 11/9. But The House With a Clock in Its Walls, based on a kids book of the same name, looks set to pull in $25 million, easily the weekend’s big winner.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:02 AM

56. and this proves what?

oh, sorry, I forgot. You've never failed at anything.

cher

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Response to NJCher (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:07 AM

77. That few people pay any attention to moore

Why would anyone pay any attention to Moore? Moore is a joke that few people pay any attention to

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Response to NJCher (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:30 PM

112. The failure of his movies mean that moore has to seek attention in other ways

Most real democrats ignore moore and so he as to seek attention from his few remaining supporters

I really enjoy this thread

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #112)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 04:57 PM

118. your assessment is laughable

The entertainment business is known for its comebacks. Arnold Schwartzenegger is only one of many producers who staged a comeback.

Then there's Ben Affleck. (Argo)
Drew Barrymore. (Never Been Kissed.)
Ellen DeGeneres, producer of the Ellen DeGeneres Show.

Please, you're insulting peoples' intelligence with such comments. Really, your thinking is ...extraordinarily simple.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #118)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:09 PM

120. I am amused that anyone pays attention to moore

I watched and owned a copy of F 9/11. I was a weak film in my opinion. I have been ignoring moore ever since. I was amused to see that moore's latest film was such a major flop. https://www.lifezette.com/2018/09/michael-moore-anti-trump-documentary-pulls-a-disappearing-act-at-the-box-office/

Though it had major support from movie critics and the mainstream media, the public is continuing to reject Michael Moore’s new anti-Trump documentary, “Fahrenheit 11/9,” a movie that reportedly compares President Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler.

In its second weekend in theaters, the film averaged a paltry $652 per theater — and it has fallen out of the top 10 at the box office.

Its estimated earnings for its second weekend in cinemas is only $1.1 million, which brings its grand total to only $5.2 million....

That averages out to likely less than 20 tickets sold per theater — based on varying ticket prices across the country. This movie is basically nonexistent to the majority of America’s moviegoing public.

I try to avoid moore when he appears on TV because I think that he is wrong in so many different ways including the fact that he supported nader and sanders.

I am so very amused by the concept that anyone thinks that moore played any role whatsoever in the 2018 election results.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:32 PM

115. It proves that some DU members love to bash progressives

very sad.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:09 AM

61. Gothmog is talking about Michael

Moore's latest Documentary.. the one Lying about President Obama and Dissing Dems.

Moore had nothing to do with our Blue Wave.. I don't care what his fans say.

I'm a fan Of President Obama and anyone who lies about and disses him is no friend to our Democratic Party.

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Response to Cha (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:22 AM

68. I have not heard the details of that dis. I likely would not agree with Moore there as Obama is

pretty close to perfect in my books.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #68)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:28 AM

72. Thank you for that, apple.. we're on the same page there.

And, sorry I'm getting so freaked out.. I really do NOT like what Moore says about our Democratic Party and President Obama.

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Response to Cha (Reply #72)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:34 AM

73. Okay. I can well understand. I just don't think we need to throw

what leaders we have under the bus. That includes Obama. But we need EVERYONE who speaks to any part of the voters lifted up. Think of all the people who have watched Moore movies and been moved to vote or fight or even just to change their heart. Anyone who can do that i think we keep.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #73)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:14 AM

81. It would be nice if Moore didn't throw Democrats under the bus.

His past movies and books were great, aimed at a popular audience. In the age of Trump it's unacceptable to attack the only party protecting us from Republicans, who are not a normal political party anymore. He needs to attack Republicans.

For example, he blamed Democrats for not fighting against Kavanaugh when obviously they did and they didn't have the votes to stop his appointment: "5 days ago Dems & 'liberals' did the same old thing, claiming some empty 'victory' when Flake feigned 'shame' and then foolishly placing their hopes in the FBI -- THE FBI! -- doing an 'investigation.' When is our side going to wake up and start FIGHTING? Stop hoping & start acting!"

What possible reason does he have to say something like this? Why are 'liberals' the enemy?

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Response to betsuni (Reply #81)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:45 AM

84. Oh FO, MM! Thanks for giving a detailed

rational reply, betsuni.

As you might be able to tell.. I get very emotional about stuff like this. I could never be a politician. I admire those who can keep their calm but get the truth out there with an added bonus of facts.

I also could never listen to him.. I'd want to throw a brick through the tv if I had one.. a tv. I learn even more things from you about what he's said.

He's like a fucking Gaslighter.. and some are ok with that.. to what fucking end?

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Response to Cha (Reply #84)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:07 AM

86. I could never be a politician either, can't control my face.

Thank YOU for posting all the tweets!

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Response to Cha (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:12 AM

80. That movie was really weak which is why it flopped

Few democrats pay any attention to Moore. Moore played no role in the blue wave in the real world

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Response to applegrove (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:51 AM

136. All of his movies have been duds since F911

Did anyone even see "Where to Invade Next?"
He was aiming on his Operation: Depress Turnout picture this year to be a comeback and it bombed

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Response to applegrove (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:25 AM

128. What about him going after Pres. Obama? Is Moore even a Democrat?

Seems invious of O, and was once a Naderite.

Moore continued: “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered. He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, (it’ll be noted that) he was the first black American that got elected president. And that’s it — eight years of your life and that’s what people will remember.”

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:43 PM

4. I am!

I was as nervous and pessimistic as he was before the election. I didn’t want to hear what he was saying, but I thought there was every reason to believe him when he said it wasn’t enough to vote ourselves but to drag one or five or ten neighbors to the polls with us.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:44 PM

5. Which Michael Moore is this? The asshole who said a vote for Gore is a vote for bush? How about

the asshole at the woman's march who thought it was all about him when he took the podium to start trashing the Democratic party, until Ashly Judd made him shut his pie hole. Perhaps the Michael Moore who told us how Mitt Romney was going to win, or his latest so-called documentary to take the opportunity trash President Obama and the Democratic party

No thanks

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:48 PM

10. Yeah, I'm not a great fan myself. n/t

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Response to OhZone (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:57 PM

18. MM isn't the reason for our success in the midterms. We won in spite of his constant doom and gloom

shtick.

The people came out to vote did so because they knew what was at stake. Most of the voters were unaware of what he was spewing


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Response to still_one (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:34 AM

83. +1

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:08 AM

40. Don't worry, he'll be back in 2020 to tell everyone they're doing it wrong and there is no hope

That’s his schtick now.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #40)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:11 AM

44. He has already come out and said trump will win in 2020

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Response to still_one (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:54 AM

103. Yeah

This is getting old already. I love his movies, but this constant "doom and gloom" is not helpful, even if he is trying to motivate people to vote. I'd rather he just be honest and treat us like adults.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:48 PM

9. The no Blue Wave Moore.

Fuck that. He is a self promoter. Said Democrats and Republicans are all the same.

Why should we even care?

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:50 PM

13. He's from the left wing of the party. That is a common refraine.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:58 PM

20. If that is the case, then why did his movie bomb so badly?

I doubt that many democrats paid any attention to Moore

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:13 AM

62. actually, documentaries are usually not box office hits; Moore's films do unusually well

for that genre

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Response to diva77 (Reply #62)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:08 AM

78. Denial is not just a river in Africa

I am very amused that Moore’s movie was such a failure

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Response to applegrove (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:58 PM

22. Sorry, not getting your gist

I consider myself from the left wing of the party. I don’t really see him from any wing of the party.

I am a left wing pragmatist.

Moore is An opportunist. Goes where the money is.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:50 AM

52. No he's not "from the left wing of the party"

He’s an independent. Not a Democrat.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:14 AM

64. It's an ugly LIE is what it is. Anyone can see that

who doesn't have an agenda to shite on the Democratic Party.

Moore had a big ZERO to do with our Democratic Party's BLUE WAVE.

I'm really surprised you're giving him any credit of all people.

Too many real Democrats worked long and hard on this.. and they're NOT from the so-called "left wing"

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Response to Cha (Reply #64)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:19 AM

66. I was referring to criticism of the Democratic Party by the left. And Moore.

Anyhow i see Moore as a totem. One who sees the darkness around the corner. He's not always right. Sometimes I've thought he was wrong but he turned out to be correct. Fully room in this party for seers. The worst thing Democrats could be in monolithic.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #66)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:25 AM

71. I see him as a Liar about President Obama and the

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Democratic Party. We have no room for Liars and those who throw Cheap Disingenuous Pot Shots at our Party for their profit.

MM tells you to "embrace trump".. have fun with that..

“But I think we have to embrace Trump,” Moore said in the interview. “People reading this will say, ‘What do you mean? Embrace Trump?’ But we have to embrace him. We have to listen to him. He’s telling lies, and he’s telling the truth at the same time"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/07/new-film-michael-moore-compares-trump-hitler-hes-not-so-crazy-about-obama-either/?utm_term=.77221405d03e

But, M.Moore also says trump is like "hitler".. so why should we "embrace" hitler? Or the fucking moron?

"In new film, Michael Moore compares Trump to Hitler. And he's not so crazy about Obama, either."

"I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/07/new-film-michael-moore-compares-trump-hitler-hes-not-so-crazy-about-obama-either/?utm_term=.77221405d03e

Michael Moore is Full of Shite.

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:42 AM

75. Ocasio-Cortez and others have said the same about the establishment

of the Democratic Party. I don't see how we jettison all of them. Plus I am from Canada and universal healthcare is what we believe in. I love Obama and am sorry Moore attacked him. But I don't want to see two parties on the left in the USA like we have in canada. It just splits the liberal vote.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #75)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:00 AM

99. Uh...What do you think the Green Party is? Why do you think we complain about his support of Nader?

Because it split the freakin vote!

I don’t care what anyone says, he is a socialist not a Democratic socialist. You should check out some of his stuff on Venezuela and Cuba.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #99)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:31 PM

114. These parties only help the GOP

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:50 PM

12. Trump said to vote as if he's on the ballot... and we did!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:57 PM

17. No one went to see his movie and I doubt that many democrats paid attention to him

Boy, did his last movie bomb

I was busy protecting the vote but I never pay attention to moore

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:57 PM

19. Thank you for this

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:58 PM

21. He predicted Romney and McCain would defeat Barack Obama.

He also predicted the Pukes would retain the house. But whatever. Let's hear Moore wax poetic about what an "evil genius" Trump is now. He's arguably the SOLE reason why the Pukes lost the house in the first place.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

29. I'd say he FEARED Romney and McCain would defeat Barack Obama.

But whatever.

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Response to shanny (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:58 PM

36. That's not what he said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.commondreams.org/news/2012/08/31/michael-moore-mitt-romney-will-win-november%3famp

Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory," Moore told host Josh Zepps. "I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.' To assume that the other side are just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition."


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Response to John Fante (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:14 AM

46. Well sure if you are going to use actual quotes to hold him accountable he's

A guy who makes some good docs and gets prognostication right about 10 % of the time

Think of his constant shaming of Dems as a Liberal "Be Best" campaign.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:44 AM

89. Oh snap! I wonder if the poster will acknowledge his/her mistake? Tic! Toc! n/t

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:05 PM

25. Democrats weren't overconfident, but they WERE confident that there would be a huge blue wave....

....and there was. What Moore did the other day may have discouraged more voters than encouraged them. It certainly didn't make the difference on Tuesday.

As for Moore wanting to get bush out of office in 2004? Perhaps if Moore wasn't such a big supporter of Ralph Nader in 2000 (along with Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon) he wouldn't have had to worry about getting bush out of office, he would have had to worry about keeping Gore IN office!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:08 PM

27. MM Is Someone . . .

. . . whose act I just don't get. Which is okay. I did enjoy the movie he did - no idea which one - where he went to France and talked to some people there about their health care system, work weeks, vacation time, and so on. However, I never understand what he's getting at when he appears on TV talk/news shows.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:31 PM

32. That was SICKO. From my perspective the significant moves he made were the following:

Roger and Me.
Bowling for Columbine
Fahrenheit 9/11
Sickco

and perhaps Capitalism, a Love Story


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Response to still_one (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:05 AM

38. Right You Are!


Sicko. That's it. Thanks. Again, the movies are okay to good, but his schtick on TV is something I simply do not understand.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:08 AM

39. I agree

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:14 PM

28. Oh screw him. He is already out there talking about us losing 2020. I can't stand him.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:25 PM

30. I saw that, he is already spewing how trump was going to win reelection in 2020. It is bullshit,

that isn't the right message


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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:08 AM

41. Yeah


I just don't grok the guy.

He's clearly trying wake people up, I guess - maybe it's not so clear actually - but why do it in such a depressing manner? He has resources and an audience. It seems like he could actually effect constructive change to some degree rather than serving as an empty doom-and-gloom purveyor.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:13 AM

63. he doesn't have much of an audience based on how his films have been doing recently

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:28 PM

31. Shut up to Michael and his promotion of third parties

And undermining of Democrats.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:33 PM

33. Naderites get no quarter from me

since 2000.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:01 AM

37. It doesn't always work the way you think. Here on the west coast, I can remember

hearing that a Presidential race had already been decided for the Republican -- while we were driving home from work. We dragged ourselves to the polling place anyway, but it was so depressing. And turnout in my state was lower than they had expected.

So some people are less likely to vote when the odds appear to be against them. They do better with some hope.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:19 AM

67. yup , just look at Beto.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:10 AM

43. Michael Moore didn't have a thing to do with Tuesday.

Not a GD thing. A fart in the wind.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:27 AM

49. Lots of progressives trying to rewrite history about the lead up to this election

Too bad DU members can read and remember.

Michael Moore is a self promoting huckster. The minute I heard him say there was no difference in the Democratic Party and republicans that was obvious.

He had Jack Shit to do with this win. Lots of his types trying to catch up with the Blue Bus that pulled out of the Station on Tuesday. Too late for those that missed it. This is a Democratic Party Bus.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #49)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:01 AM

55. +++++

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #49)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:07 AM

59. +1

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:31 AM

50. "I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock

to social progress than Trump is." MM said this a couple months ago.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #50)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:57 AM

53. What an amazingly stupid thing to say

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Response to still_one (Reply #53)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:02 AM

56. Yes, not at all "brilliant" or a "predictor of truth."

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Response to betsuni (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:09 AM

60. yup

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:49 AM

51. Kerry would have been a great President. :(

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:03 AM

58. Sorry, apple.. Michael Moore has done

nothing but diss our Democratic Party and President Obama.

He had absolutely nothing but negative bullshit about our Midterms.

His damn documentary dissing Dems bombed, too.. Thankfully.

he had Zilch to do with our BLUE WAVE. ZILCH.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:18 AM

65. 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it"

that's what he was saying in september 2014 just in time for the upcoming midterms that year.


<"When the history is written of this era, this is how you'll be remembered: He was the first black president," Moore said during a discussion at The Hollywood Reporter's video lounge at the Toronto Film Festival.

"OK, not a bad accomplishment, but that's it," the director said. "That's it, Mr. Obama. 100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it. Eight years of your life and that's what people are going to remember. Boy, I got a feeling, knowing you, that — you'd probably wish you were remembered for a few other things, a few other things you could've done."

"So, it is, on that level, a big disappointment," Moore said.>


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-moore-slams-obama-history-731563

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Response to JI7 (Reply #65)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:24 AM

70. Well i don't agree with that at all.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:23 AM

69. what hurt Kerry was Voter Suppression and Ken Blackwell in Ohio

and Jeb Bush in Florida .

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:38 AM

74. Agree - it needed to be said

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:03 AM

76. He's not a predictor of truth. Historically the likelihood of a Republican following Obama..

was always on the cards. The signs were there in 2014, We began hearing the excuse making for it re WWC since 2012. The racial animus and cultural fear behind it was minimized. We're now seeing for a fact that millions of Americans will vote for useless racist representatives, even if they're treated with a breadcrumb of what they think maybe m4all by their opponents. All Trump had to do was demonize a "caravan" of desperate people. The Republican attack ads in swing districts were chock full of fear mongering and race baiting.

So what did the blue wave mean to you? The blue "wave" meant to me (and this is why understanding the results and the way electoral process can potentially change at this point) showing some grit and push back against voter suppression and gerrymandering. Democrats did make a dent in a system Republicans have thoroughly gamed by disenfranchising people. At the State Level, Democrats made sweeping changes - THIS is important to note since it has been at the State Level Republicans have done some of their worst.

And how much responsibility will some like Moore take for trashing the democratic party brand as no different to Republicans when it's obviously not fucking true? Every cry based on the bogus charge of "establishment Democrats" who refuse to support people he supports has helped create the most ridiculous memes, also used by the GOP. I don't see what thanks I'm supposed to give Michael Moore here, he's not my savior and I ain't looking for one. The people responsible for what has been accomplished are those who did GOTV efforts and supported Dems - if he did so other than complain and trying passing himself off as Cassandra, then good for him.

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Response to JHan (Reply #76)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:56 AM

96. +1 nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:14 AM

82. In some of the paper thin D wins, what he did may have made the difference.

That is EXACTLY what needs to be understood here.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #82)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 07:42 AM

141. Bullshit

What won these election was increased voter turnout and typical Republican voters switching over. Michael Moore did nothing to influence either of those groups of people.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:02 AM

85. And if we'd lost on Tuesday ...

... Michael Moore would have been the great seer who saw it coming, and tried to warn us.

"The people he lit a fire under last week no doubt made the difference on Tuesday where margins were tight."

No doubt? Do you have a link to the stats on that?

As for the Dems not voting for Kerry because they'd heard the early exit polls "giving him the win", I'm pretty sure that old meme was debunked years ago.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:10 AM

87. Exactly.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:33 AM

88. Yup, Michael Moore is full of shit

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:49 AM

91. Thank you Nance.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:58 AM

94. Yup -- grassroots leaders and Souls to Polls did this

LOcal people did this on the ground. NOT MICHAEL MOORE!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #94)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:10 AM

100. Yeah, and they had cameras in a lot of Our Revolution campaigns.

There's a documentary about a few of them, but I imagine that Michael Moore has a lot of footage that he'd loved to have used to admonish the Democrats if they lost, since the Our Revolution candidates were completely and utterly rejected. Like not even a handful won.

That documentary would've been huge for him and his ilk as a complete rejection of the Democrats and likely splintering the party.

He was building the narrative before it started.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:58 AM

98. Oh, he would've no doubt pointed to the rejection of Our Revolution candidates.

He would've spouted from the hilltops that the Democrats resoundingly rejecting Our Revolution was the reason for the loss.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:14 AM

104. Great post

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:16 AM

105. Odd how he "lights a fire" under people to vote democratic...

... by perpetually criticizing democrats almost as much as republicans.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #85)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:47 AM

133. His latest film was essentially "Bernie or Bust: The Movie"

And even ends by telling people "voting doesn't work."

Michael "Embrace Trump" Moore (actual quote) used the film to repeat the same myth that the nomination was somehow stolen fromSanders by superdelegates, despite him getting millions less votes and having less delegates going into convention.

He vilifies Obama and completely misrepresents what he said in Flint, and the guy he makes out to be a hero is Richard Ojeda, a conservacrat in WV, whom Moore whitewashed his past, including his Trump praise and endorsement, smears of Clinton using coal industry lies and rabid immigrant and refugee bashing.
That's who Mike prefers to Obama.

Fuck him and his track record of erroneous Debbie Downer Nostradumbass predictions.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:44 AM

90. Iam! nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 04:45 AM

92. k&r

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:55 AM

93. Souls to Polls and other grassroots leaders did this, not fricking Michael Moore

Your OP is beyond insulting to people in every state (and Guam) who GOTV in neighborhoods, drove for Souls to Polls, etc.

Michael Moore did not do this. Just stop.

People always congratulate a white man for a job women, blacks, and other minorities did.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #93)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:54 AM

95. Thank you.

People always congratulate a white man for a job women, blacks, and other minorities did.

That was my first thought when I saw the OP.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #95)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:16 AM

101. This is the white man demanding self congratulations.

Narcissists obviously are not limited to the Right.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #93)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:13 AM

107. Sure he did

Your OP is beyond insulting to people in every state (and Guam) who GOTV in neighborhoods, drove for Souls to Polls, etc.

Michael Moore did not do this. Just stop.


I don't know if he drove for Souls to Polls, specifically, but he spent a lot of energy on GOTV and encouraging others to spend their energy in the same way.

He's a self promoter, no doubt, and his prognostications aren't to be taken particularly seriously as actual predictions because that's not what he's good at (or even what he aims for). But plenty of people follow his specific advice to vote, to GOTV, to donate their time and energy to things like TheLastWeekend.org and so on.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #93)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:16 AM

124. Of course this was the whole team. I just don't like to see our big tent have

poles knocked around. I am not happy with what Moore said about Obama. Obama turned our minds global. His legacy will outlive Clinton's. Obama Care has changed people's hearts even in red states. I'm not happy Moore said that about Obama's legacy. But I protect his right as the best documentary auteur the left has ever seen to say his opinion. If people don't like his message they can ignore his movie. Which they did. And that was a good thing. But I don't want to see him made an example of. If he turns into an irrelevant Nader like character that is his choice and I don't want to see people go after him. He will just not be so important. A lot of people are confused at to the meaning of what is going on in Washington and across the country right now. As Trump ticks off the how to be a dictator boxes it is becoming clearer for all. Trump is seen more clearly now. We need documentary makers like Moore (his talent). He is a storyteller. We have more stories that desperately need telling.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:57 AM

97. If they had lost he'd have another documentary to make.

And it would've focused on all the Our Revolution candidates that the Democrats resoundingly rejected.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:29 AM

106. Lawrence O'Donnell has practically made MM a co-host throughout this

campaign season. I've been watching LO for years, and think he's by far one of the smartest people in the punditry world, so it's hard to imagine someone like him getting hornswaggled by an apparent "flim-flam man".

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #106)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:29 PM

110. Which is why I skip watching this show

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #106)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:03 PM

119. It's not hard to imagine at all.

it's hard to imagine
It's not hard to imagine at all. One need only have imagination. I think it's safe to assert that smarter men than O'Donnell have been fooled by flim-flam men and grifters less competent than Moore. O'Donnell is no exception... neither is Moore.

All I'm saying is that his coziness with Moore (who's no friend of Democrats) certainly lowers my opinion of O'Donnell. He diminishes him AND his show.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #106)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 06:05 PM

123. I dumped LO in the '16 primaries, and haven't looked back. He's entitled to have anyone he wants...

on his show, but I'm not obliged to watch.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:24 AM

127. He also once endorsed the proposition that Bush is the same as Gore.

More than a million Iraqis died because Bush wasn't the same as Gore.

Michael Moore is a pompous ass.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 03:47 AM

130. I agree with you, to a point.

He also has a high negative that can hurt the party....not really his fault but it can have a negative impact on elections.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:21 AM

132. I would rather shout out to all the women who actually made a real difference

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Moore is OK but Colbert did 1000 times more, but they both got really well paid for it.

I am grateful to the women that were there to knock on doors and make calls including dozens in my neck of the woods that were in their 70s

I am grateful to the middle aged women that went out and got the signatures, got on the ballot and worked hard to win.

I am grateful that Kyrsten Sinema is my Senator elect and Ann Kirkpatrick is my Representative elect and they provide inspiring examples to my daughters AND deliver double bookends to end the career of the despicable Martha McSally.

I am grateful for the young girls and young women who volunteered.

All of these women were too busy to pay any attention to Moore.

But I don't really have one ounce of gratitude for Michael Moore, not because he is a bad guy, he's not.

The reason I can't get worked up for MM is because I don't have any gratitude left after all I give to the giant spirit who dwarfed all others.

When I was tired and didn't want to stay out I thought of her and kept on going.

She is worth 100 Michael Moores.

I am grateful for Dr Christine Ford as here profile rose to the height of the Rookies and her shadow blanketed the entire continent and she gave us the strength to get the job done.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 05:05 AM

138. Dr Ford certainly deserves credit. i found that a lot of women who were not very politically active

were able to relate to her. things like how she could remember the cruelty of the laughter.

because she really was somewhat reluctant. there was no agenda on her part other than getting the truth out.

what she said was how they felt when they had things that happened to them. and the response from the mostly trashy old men to her .

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Response to grantcart (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 05:07 AM

139. ++++++++++++++++++++++

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Response to grantcart (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 05:24 AM

140. +1

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Response to grantcart (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 02:20 PM

142. I agree. It is just that Moore was being trashed and the others were not.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 03:57 PM

143. Great post

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:50 AM

135. I don't like him

His stance on Gore vs Bush says it all, I’m not sure why he is even on tv. I have never seen his films and never will. He is weird imo.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:34 PM

144. I Do Not Think That is What Happened

I do not think that is what happened in either 2004 or 2018. I think the 2004 election was lost due to voter suppression. I think people got out to the polls this year because they saw what happened in 2016, were upset about the direction this country was going, and wanted to send a message to Trump and the Republican Party. Michael Moore has little, if any, impact on the midterm elections.

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