Tucker Carlson is a racist a*hole, but this is just wrong

[MichMary]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/08/they-were-threatening-me-my-family-tucker-carlsons-home-targeted-by-protesters/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.20a179ebaac6

‘They were threatening me and my family’: Tucker Carlson’s home targeted by protesters
‘We know where you sleep at night’: Protesters surround Tucker Carlson’s home
A group of protesters gathered outside the Northwest D.C. home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Nov. 7. (Drea Cornejo/The Washington Post)

Boycott advertisers, but physically threatening someone at his home, with his family present will not produce the results the protesters hope for.

[Mr. Quackers]

1. this is the sound

of all the fucks I give:



boo fucking hoo for Tucker "Fuckboy" Carlson

[LincolnRossiter]

3. Again, he has a wife and kids who have school and bedtime and they all have the right to feel safe..

at home. This isn't supposed to be who we are.

[MichMary]

9. +1 n/t

[ChazII]

19. +1

We are better than this. Thank you for this reminder.

[Mr. Quackers]

25. his racism and abhorrent right wing ideologies

are an existential threat to many people who have wives and children

[dchill]

54. +1000

[ck4829]

81. Indeed

[Doremus]

140. 100% correct. nt

[LAS14]

146. So we want a USA where vigilante-ism rules the day? Not me. We're better than this. nt

[Mr. Quackers]

148. Well, you can have your high horse

Nobody is trying to string up the dickweed from the streetlights or anything.

Spew shit, get shit in return.

So tough shit for the buttercup, he needs to get to sucking it up.

[True Dough]

152. Let's a mob form outside your home while your kids are inside

and see how quickly you change your mind.

[Mr. Quackers]

158. Sympathy for the racist

how endearing.

You can come here if you want, do you like mayo or mustard on your sandwiches? I suppose you guys will be hungry by the time you get here.

Plus, we don't serve alcoholic beverages, so you'll have to settle for Diet Pepsi or plain water. From the tap.

Do you like dogs? No children here, just a couple of dogs. But they like to play though.

[True Dough]

161. You chose appropriately with a name like Mr. Quackers

I can't stand Tucker Carlson, but I wouldn't advocate scaring the shit out of anyone's kids to try to make yourselves feel better. C'mon! You think Tucker is going to change his stance on anything one bit due to an angry protest outside his home?

This only further inflames the alt-right. It edges things closer to violence between the Proud Boys and the Antifa types. There's no solution there.

[Mr. Quackers]

164. Mr. Quackers is the name of one of my ducks

It is rather touching that you have so much sympathy for racists though. Fuckboy Carlson shouldn't put his children in that position. There are consequences to actions. Give shit out, get shit in return.

Nice ad hominem! Shows you probably have nothing of value to actually contribute.

Fuck what Tucker Carlson thinks, fuck what the alt-right thinks. Why are you so concerned about what they think anyway? Why do you have sympathy for racists? Come clean, it's okay.

Bless your heart, dear.

[True Dough]

169. Tucker should do what?

Put his kids in detention centers with the immigrant children rather than have them at home?

Keep stacking up the wrongs to see if you can make a right. You're the real valuable contributor here. Just ducky!

[Mr. Quackers]

170. Tucker can go fuck himself for all I care

you're spoiling for something, hope you figure out where you actually stand.

You're very adamant and consistent in your defense of and sympathy for racists though - it shows real commitment.

[True Dough]

173. Yeah, it's consistent with my wardrobe sporting "I love racists" emblazoned across everything

and also my longstanding signature quote from Barack Obama. Get a clue!

[treestar]

189. Shouldn't put their children in

That position is what the right wing has said about separated immigrant children and those with DACA.

Has tucker used that one himself?

[gopiscrap]

157. thank you

[Tipperary]

206. Wow, you sound tough.

[gopiscrap]

156. +1000

[Johnny2X2X]

61. It isn't who we are

This is a group that we on the left bare no responsibility for. They are responsible for themselves, not us.

[Seeking Serenity]

65. "This isn't supposed to be who we are"

May not supposed to be, but, regrettably, it is who we are now. Just read the comments in this thread for confirmation of that :

Boo [effing] hoo. I don't care. If only he'd become a progressive Democrat, this wouldn't happen to him or his family. He deserved it. He probably staged it on his own. I don't believe it happened, but so what if it did?

Et cetera, et cetera.

So yeah, it is who we, as progressives, are now. Not all participate, but most support this kind of stuff (or even worse) Get used to it.

By all means, please call it out and denounce it, loudly and forcefully. But be prepared to be called a Nazi for doing so and to be banned from progressive forums. Or you could stay silent and thus be complicit. Or you could join in. Or you could leave. At the end of the day, those are your only choices.

[Demsrule86]

67. You assume the account is true. I do not...as for a rights, Kavanaugh's accuser's kids had

rights too...I don't give two shits about Tucker's situation.

[gopiscrap]

160. thank you

[Demsrule86]

175. We are supposed to just swallow any BS they say but the GOP can send Nazis to Charlottesville and

threaten anyone who disagrees with Trump...if there is a camera...why no arrests if this is true? Thanks!

[Demsrule86]

209. Been gone so thank you...and as it turned out the the door was not broken and the entire thing

was a lie....new it was untrue...no arrests.

[LenaBaby61]

171. I don't give two shits about Tucker's situation.

Same here. FUCK HIM.

He spews racism like he's a fountain. He's also the same person who thinks cops should use black folks for target practice (Philando Castile), and oh if they get murdered because the cops are SCARED so fucking what. Feel sorry for that? Uh NOPE.



Karma is a beyotch IF this story is even true, because he put his family into harms way, but then again, I don't believe most of the shit coming out of a FAUX news person's lying, racist mouth (Shep Smith/Juan Williams are the exceptions, & Sometimes Chris Wallace shows signs of having some decency).

[Demsrule86]

174. Agree completely. Fuck him.

[Ms. Toad]

204. That is precisely why you should care.

If we condone this kind of behavior because we disagree with their politics, then we have to accept that what their side did because they believe Dr. Blasey Ford was a policital hack who was lying is also acceptable.

[EleanorR]

205. except it didn't happen

https://thinkprogress.org/i-was-at-the-protest-outside-tucker-carlsons-house-heres-what-actually-happened-665c2dc0cb67/

[Ms. Toad]

208. I watched the videos, and read numerous reports.

I know exactly what happened - and it is not the kind of tactics we ought to be using.

Standing outside a person's house, shouting veiled threats, "“we know where you sleep at night,” and, “We’ll be back! We won’t tell you when!” is not an appropriate response to a political difference.

[uponit7771]

68. Who in the world said the people doing this is "we" !!???! FAUX News does false flags all the time.

... I'll wait, these bastards are Russian level propagandist

Fuck Carlson

[LincolnRossiter]

73. Day after an election seems like a great time for a false flag...

/sarc.

[uponit7771]

75. +1

[dawg day]

83. So did Blasey-Ford-

And he was loudly impugning her.

Everyone's family should be off-limits, of course. But these people only object when they're the target, and that should be pointed out.

[LincolnRossiter]

85. By all means, lower yourself to his level and then still presume to sit in judgment...

It's a very American thing to do.

[Permanut]

89. Of course we sit in judgement..

This board is full of "judgements", otherwise known as opinions.

[LincolnRossiter]

94. Great retort. How about not justifying terrible behavior by saying "they do it too..."

That's a 5 year-old's opinion.

[Demsrule86]

177. Insulting folks who disagree with you isn't nice either. I will wait to find out what really

happened. Also, I don't give two shits about Tucker.

[krawhitham]

105. actions have consequences

[budkin]

135. Then maybe he should think about what he does

He makes life more dangerous for other peoples' families, why should his family be spared?

[LincolnRossiter]

141. So should every literal murderer's family be targets of murder? Are we justified in getting every

drug dealer's kid hooked on drugs?

Just to be clear, I don't think this would be justified if that piece of shit Tucker lived alone. He has a legal right to spread his racism and bullshit on that bullshit propaganda station that's been a thorn in our national discourse for 20 years until someone decides that he doesn't. People, however, don't have a legal right to follow him home and commit acts of criminal trespassing, disturbing the peace, intimidation, communicating threats, etc. The fact that he has a wife and young children only makes it worse.

Are you all 10 years old or something? This isn't how you beat the ideology of hatred. You go at it with knowledge and reason.

As an aside, if some clowns holed my wife up in the kitchen cupboard because they didn't like my politics I'd knock their goddamned heads off.

[gopiscrap]

163. and we have a legal right to call him on it and shame him to his family

and his neighbors. One of the problems in letting tuckers shit go unchecked is that his evil spawn will take on the same opinions of the father... perhaps if they see that people hate their foather for his vile opinions and they will be shunned they'll eithefr shut the fuck up when they are adults or they will change their opinions

[gopiscrap]

162. agreed

nothing changes unless it directly impacts these fuckers families

[still_one]

137. who said it is us? I don't know who these protesters are, and they don't represent me, and I am

sure they don't represent most if not all here.

They speak only for themselves.

As for Hannity, if he is being harassed in his residence by these protesters, he should call the cops on them

[gopiscrap]

155. they don't give a damn if we feel safe or respected

we need to start fighting fire with fire otherwise they will just run over us

[Butterflylady]

165. Then he shouldn't have a news show where

he spews his racist views.

[John Fante]

172. Tucker should send his fucking kids to a child detention

center in the middle of the desert. I hear it's just like summer camp!

[gopiscrap]

153. thank you

we have got to quit playing nice...there has to be PERSONAL consequences for assholes, otherwise they will just get bolder

[LincolnRossiter]

2. Yeah saw that earlier. It's fucked up. The guy has young kids.

It's not my thing (I live in DC and have seen him out and about a time or two) but if you want to heckle him on the sidewalk or at the gym or whatever, be my guest. He's a giant, racist douchebag (or pretends to be) and deserves no respect. But leave a man be in and near his home.

[MichMary]

11. Public heckling is good,

but won't change a thing.

Boycott his advertisers.

[LincolnRossiter]

38. I haven't watched Fox since 1999 (except to laugh on election night in 2012). I have no idea who his

sponsors are and don't care. He's toxic, but he's found his already toxic audience. And I wouldn't heckle him. I'm saying if that's someone's particular jam, have at. Disturbing a man's home, however, is fucked up. Full stop. It's extra fucked up when he has four small children.

Anyone who can't see that can't be reasoned with. We have laws of war that at least are supposed to prevent this kind of shit in times of literal pitched conflict.

[MichMary]

40. I agree

Families should be off-limits.

[Mr. Quackers]

30. I guess this buttercup

might just need to suck it up, being the special snowflake he is.

oh, and "fuck his feelings."

[EllieBC]

197. I don't give a shit about his feelings.

But his kids should be off limits.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. Shady as hell.

Liberals are not going to intentionally feed Trump’s “mob” narrative, and anything “Antifa” immediately raises red flags.

[irresistable]

15. if the White House press secretary is willing to post doctored videos...

the right will do anything.

[GWC58]

32. Yeah and they accuse the left of hiring

“crisis actors” when it’s actually they, RWNJ assholes, doing the “acting.” 😡😈😠 Not sure if this is what happened here, just that it wouldn’t surprise me.

[stonecutter357]

5. russian/cricist actors ?

[dewsgirl]

12. I think so. Why don't we ever hear about Antifa, unless it's paired alongside RW talking points?

[MichMary]

13. Hmmmm . . .

Not impossible.

[uponit7771]

70. +1

[Odoreida]

6. This is the sort of this that could lead to ...

... Antifa being hunted down and exterminated.

Do you really out that past Trump?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. Antifa isn't a real thing, people. Nt

[Odoreida]

14. So who were the guys in front of Carlson's house? n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

18. No clue.

There’s no legitimate liberal organization known as Antifa though.

It’s a right wing bogeyman.

[Odoreida]

26. I never said Antifa are liberals, but I'm pretty sure they exist. n/t

[irresistable]

50. Why are you sure?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

52. Well, I'm assuming there were actual people involved. That's about it, though.

People claiming to be "Antifa" are either anarchists who just like chaos for chaos sake, or I suspect agent provocateurs of sorts meant to make the left look bad.

We're talking about people who claim they need to wear masks all the time. I mean....why? If I'm going to protest, you're going to see my face.

We didn't hear anything about "Antifa" until Trump was elected and after that, any event where there are left leaning protesters involved where there is any sort of chaos or violence, it always comes as a result of "Antifa."

It just reeks so much of bullshit.

[eShirl]

22. "Smash Racism"

[MichMary]

17. Even if you think it isn't a "real thing,"

it could actually lead to crackdowns on protests, maybe even lethal force being used against peaceful protesters. I don't think that we want that.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. Of course.

The problem rests in the fact that you cannot control what you can’t actually control.

[Odoreida]

28. Hmm. Now that I'm thinking it over ...

... agents provocateurs maybe?

I certainly encountered enough of those back in the Vietnam era.

[MarvinGardens]

88. They are real.

Or do you think these are fake websites/feeds run by Russians? Examples exist in many other cities.

https://atlantaantifa.org/

https://mobile.twitter.com/afainatl?lang=en

[Tommy_Carcetti]

97. Websites are easy to create and maintain.

Do the "Atlanta Antifa" have regular meetings? What are the requirements to join? What are the monthly dues? Who brings donuts?

Or do they just have a website?

There are real people who dress up in masks and create havoc for reasons unknown (IMHO most likely either because they like chaos or they are there to make liberals look violent) but as far as these groups existing as legitimate, real organizations advancing liberal interests......they don't.

[MarvinGardens]

128. They aren't liberals and don't claim to be.

The real false flag isn't the existence of Antifa itself. It's the association of liberals and Democrats with Antifa, when there is basically no overlap. If you read their literature, you will see that they are critical of liberals, and that liberal society will allow fascist organizing that they find unacceptable. They also believe voting is useless and do not advocate for Democrats.

To answer your questions about their authenticity, this investigative reporter and newspaper interviewed some and believes they are real.

https://www.myajc.com/news/national-govt--politics/ajc-watchdog-who-are-trump-troublemakers/BEPqz8EiEkzZ5MPamlH5cJ/

That article is linked to others about their disruption of a Stone Mountain rally. You may hit a paywall if you click too many.

I do not know if they have regular meetings, as I am not a member nor have I attempted to contact them. Most of what the Atlanta group does is mundane: doxxing racist organizers and tearing down racist flyers they find around the city. But the occasional "direct action" they engage in makes a big ruckus and is thus easier to find on Google.

The rather mundane content of much of their actions and writings also gives me a gut feeling that they are real. It is just too much slow and steady work over the years to be a false flag operation, and not be exposed by now. The Atlanta group will link to other Antifa twitter feeds in other cities, and thus I assume those other groups are real as well. Occasionally they will accuse a given feed of being false flag as well.

If you believe this group is fake, do let me know your reasons. I would feel foolish if that were the case, but I would not want to be on here pushing false info.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

138. Again, it's not that there aren't people who go to events and say they are "Antifa."

I just don't see them as a legitimate organization and the fact they shroud themselves in so much secrecy about everything (hiding names and faces, etc.) to the point where you can't even directly verbally communicate with them.

And that makes me question what ulterior motives they have in doing whatever it is they do, and who might be promoting them.

I suppose they could just be legitimate anarchists who hate everybody and love chaos. But their name has been used so much by the right in associating the left with violence that I wonder about certain events they are associated with.

And this being Tucker Carlson, creator of the Daily Caller which is notorious for spreading misleading or outright false propaganda, I am especially circumspect here. The MAGABomber was an embarrassment for the right and an attempt to "both sides" political violence could be used to minimize that embarrassment.

[MarvinGardens]

145. The Klan were and are real, and hid their identities.

It's not the dumbest thing for them to do if they are engaging in criminal activities. I am not attempting to draw a moral equivalency between Antifa and the Klan, but rather am countering the point of anonymous = fake. Also, that reporter was able to communicate with them, and as with government leakers and those in the criminal underworld, the reporter protected their anonymity.

While Antifa argues that their direct actions are "community self-defense", the law views some of them as criminal, and their fascist targets might want to hurt them, so they have every reason to hide their identities.

[disillusioned73]

121. This is what I wanted to say...

the right wing narrative always makes it's way into DU...

[vi5]

133. Uh, they've been around for a long fucking time...

....their presence has been smaller here in the US until recently with the rise of racism, but just because the folks on here are just hearing about them and just learning about their works doesn't mean they aren't a real thing or as some like to say a "russian front group" or whatever else.

And they've saved many a friend of mine from a beating at the hands of neo nazis, and protected those of who have lived in parts of the country dealing with this scourge long before Trump was a glimmer in the eye of the Republican party and while many on here have had their thumbs up their asses still believing in "bipartisanship" and "going high when they go low".

[Tommy_Carcetti]

139. Well, whatever you claim....

....here Tucker Carlson of Daily Caller infamy gets to say he is the victim of political violence right after the MAGABomber thing got eggs on the faces of so many of the right. The right has beat the "Antifa" horse to death just like they've beat the "George Soros" and "Saul Alinsky" horses to death and I'm just saying that it's a little too convenient of a "both sides" narrative to lessen the blow of recent instances of actual right-wing violence and extremism.

[MarvinGardens]

159. Admittedly, their existence is inconvenient for us for two reasons.

1. Many Americans, and the press, only are capable of putting political actors into two bins: left/liberal and right/conservative. Antifa get put into the left/liberal bin by the press and those who have a motive to do so.

2. In America, political violence has the opposite effect on public opinion as the effect desired by the violent actor, and this works in concert with #1 above. Right wing violence helps us and hurts Republicans. Left wing violence (less common nowadays) hurts us and helps Republicans.

But because it is inconvenient for us, does not mean we should not acknowledge the truth. I read a RW board where the members are quite detached from reality. You've probably heard of it. In their world, every white nationalist who commits violence is a false flag actor or a patsy, including the recent pipe bomber. They just will not accept reality when it is politically inconvenient for them. I do not want us to be like that.

[uponit7771]

72. Antifa is some made up winger shit

[irresistable]

7. So, Magically....they close down the street and crack his front door...

and no one is arrested?

That doesn't sound like the DC police that I know.

[bullwinkle428]

8. I'm sure Tucker was extremely vociferous in his condemnation of the

multiple pipe-bomb efforts against many of Shitler's outspoken critics.

[jrthin]

16. His show threatens the lives of many, many minorities on a daily basis.

His show plays a part in working up racists and anti-semites that they feel they can send pipe bombs or walk into a church or synagogue and murder people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

23. Absolutely... feel so sorry for that asshole. Not!

[disillusioned73]

122. Amen..

[In It to Win It]

21. This is conflicting...

I dislike Tucker Carlson. He weaponizes and radicalizes all the millions of people that watche that shit excuse of a television network...

But I don’t agree with going to someone’s house and protesting or disturbing the peace. But at the same time, I feel like that’s something you risk when you become a public figure... and at the same time, I couldn’t care less about Fucker Carlson.

[rzemanfl]

24. So out of shits to give. n/t

[Spider Jerusalem]

27. I have approximately as much sympathy...

as I would for reading about the same thing happening to Josef Goebbels or Julius Streicher.

[Thomas Hurt]

29. Antifa needs to back off on this crap, the threats and intimidation and violence

should not be tactic of the left in America.

[Baltimike]

33. Antifa is a Russian front all day long. nt

[LincolnRossiter]

39. They may be, but if approximately 1/4 of the posters in this thread so far are supporting or...

justifying this, is it so out of the question that some actual liberals are involved in it? It's disgusting. This is little better than the "proud boys" and the rest of those fascist clowns.

[Demsrule86]

45. I don't support it but it happens to us all the times...and I don't see the GOP doing a thing about

it. I have no sympathy for those who lie for a living and spend their lives dividing our country...as you sow so shall you reap. Protest is an American right. fuck him.

[LincolnRossiter]

46. Protest is an American right. Banging on a citizen's door (when he isn't even home) certainly isn't.

And who's banging on your door simply because they think your politics are disgusting (which Tucker's definitely are)?

Yeah, fuck him. But this is stupid and so is your defense of fit.

[Demsrule86]

66. If a person goes on your property, call the cops. But I highly doubt this is a true account...liars

going to lie.

[LincolnRossiter]

69. His wife called the cops.

You think she decided to start filing false police reports the day after an election to somehow move the needle with false flags?

Use your head. This is why many people see the far left as being as obtuse and unreasonable as the far right.

[Demsrule86]

142. Anything is possible...any arrests?

[LincolnRossiter]

143. No arrests. And sure, anything's possible. Maybe it was martians.

Highly implausible that some knuckleheads would harass a high-profile asshole like Tucker in DC...and film it. And post the film. And then have their accounts suspended.

You guys really sound like rightwing idiots with the false flag bullshit. Highly ideological and irrational people do stupid shit like this all the time. Sometimes people even get hurt.

[irresistable]

62. Yes, it is out of the question. This is not how liberals function.

They don't break down doors. They don't joke about pipe bombs.

Also, they get arrested. This group is supposedly pounding on doors and cracking a door. They closed off the street.
Why weren't they arrested?

[Baltimike]

87. this nt

[Mr. Quackers]

37. Tucker Carlson can change his abhorrent traitorous rhetoric

turn a new leaf and join the human race.

[MichMary]

42. Yeah,

threats to a person's family are SO likely to change a person's mind.

[Mr. Quackers]

51. You get what you give

Tucker will have to make like a buttercup and suck it up.

"Fuck his feelings."

[disillusioned73]

126. Bingo...

[xor]

193. Whose door did Tucker Carlson break down and whose property did he vandalize?

Tucker is a smug jackass who I cannot stand, but what specific actions has he taken in your mind that justifies his family also being targeted by this? Like specifics, not some vague response that he's a racist fascist or whatever.

How do you feel about his wife and children's feelings?

[uponit7771]

74. Link and quote to Antifa existing outside of winger world

[MarvinGardens]

95. Links you requested.

https://mobile.twitter.com/afainatl?lang=en

https://atlantaantifa.org/

https://itsgoingdown.org/

Links are not an endorsement. Of course, they could be false russian troll sites, and some are, but I think the above examples are real.

[uponit7771]

114. Those are websites not an organization with people that can be contacted.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

125. The contact phone number literally says "voicemail only"

What sort of legit organization doesn't even allow for direct personal communication?

I'd be very suspicious of any organization that doesn't allow me to directly speak to another human being.

Anyone can make a website or a social media account.

[uponit7771]

130. +1, MAGA Nationalist on mixed Forum sites use Antifa ad nausea as a WhatAboutIsm argument excuse for

... MAGARacism

[MarvinGardens]

129. See post 128.

[Baltimike]

31. This smacks of horseshit. nt

[tenderfoot]

34. This sounds like total BULLSHIT

eom

[Tommy_Carcetti]

53. Yep. nt

[treestar]

63. Yes ten to one it is

Orchestrated by Ticker to be a victim and claim that it proves liberals are terrible people. It has a right wing flavor to it

[uponit7771]

76. +1

[yardwork]

96. False flag propaganda. I can't believe that people fall for this.

[tenderfoot]

192. The OP is so concerned

hope they don't accidentally strangle themself by clutching those pearls too tightly.

[geardaddy]

198. +1

[UniteFightBack]

35. You reap what you sow. nt

[MrScorpio]

36. He was probably never in any danger

All he’s doing is milking victimhood for rwnj sympathy.

[MichMary]

43. According to the article, he wasn't in any danger because

he wasn't home, but his wife was.

I may not have much use for Carlson, but his wife shouldn't be intimidated. She's not on the air spewing hate.

[WillowTree]

47. Nor are his kids.

[yodermon]

41. This ANTIFA crap is a bunch of false-flag bullshit. Russian front group.

I've *never* heard of "ANTIFA" until the trump administration.
And this is through Occupy wall st, bush war protests, WTO protests, etc.... i've seen black block / anarchists but never the term "ANTIFA".. until now.

If they are not an outright front group of agents provocateurs then they have been co-opted/radicalized by enemy agents.

NON VIOLENCE SHOULD BE A DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF ANY VALID PROTEST.
IF YOU PEOPLE COMMITTING OR ADVOCATING FOR VIOLENT ACTS, THEY ARE THE DE FACTO ENEMY AND SHOULD BE DENOUNCED, FULL STOP.

sorry for shouting

[Tommy_Carcetti]

49. Thank you. nt

[Pisces]

55. I was just saying this to my friend yesterday. Never heard of this group it was made up boogeyman.

[uponit7771]

77. Thank you !!! MAGA Terrorist continue to try and associate Antifa with the left and there's no valid

... connections between antifa and established leftist groups

[ronatchig]

84. I agree

This is a false flag op. Pure and simple. I'm pretty sure that the left learned its lesson with the weatherman op and SDS back in the day. This is a moldie oldie from the fascist's handbook of social engineering. Not only are you able to plant fear in law abiding leftists. You get to train up the young and.more violent allies in tactics.

[vi5]

134. Oh, you've never heard of them? Well then by all means they must be a front group.

Sorry, but many of us have heard of them long before Trump, and seen a lot of the good shit they've done protecting areas and communities that actually have had to deal with neo-nazis. Both here in the US and in other countries.

But by all means, continue asking the nazis and racists nicely to stop being so mean and beating and murdering people. Let me know how that works out for you.

[LAS14]

147. +100

[Devil Child]

207. Your ignorance of their existence doesn't equate their non-existence

Antifa is very real. Now, Tucker’s tale is most likely fake new or gross exaggeration, but Antifa is a reality.

[Demsrule86]

44. I have zero sympathy for those who get on the air and lie their heads off for Trump and the GOP.

What about Kavanaugh's accuser? She had to move and received death threats...there are consequences for lying for living and being a racist piece of shit.

[Generic Other]

48. How did he and his ilk treat Christine Blasey Ford and her family?

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[area51]

186. This.

I'm wondering if she and her family will ever be able to go back to their house. Thoughts & prayers, Fucker Carlson.

[awesomerwb1]

56. Will never understand why so many people here

give the benefit of the doubt to these hate and racism promoters.

There is no bottom for these guys. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED THAT YET??? Really?

Everybody needs to be critical, skeptical first before leaping in defense of these rats.

So these protesters know soooo much about Carlson, where he lives etc, but didn't know what time his show airs? They didn't know he was not home?

Seems legit.

[LanternWaste]

57. Sounds like some rather delicious chum.

[violetpastille]

132. +1

[Botany]

58. This does not pass my smell test

I call total bullshit on this staged bit of performance art.

[Autumn]

59. Gosh I just used up my last Give A Fuck. Maybe next year I'll grow some more.

[Blue_true]

60. Yes. The action was stupid and counterproductive. nt

[DFW]

71. Unless it was a Republican operation all along

The DAY after we take back the House? We didn't have the time to organize something like this. This sounds like a pure Republican operation from start to finish, tailor-made for Fox Noise. I'm betting not one Democrat knew of this before the press reported it.

[KPN]

64. Strikes me as a false flag.

I can't imagine any true Democrat throwing their body at the front door in an attempt to break it in. This is bullshit being orchestrated to validate physical oppression of protests and protestors they are certain to be faced with in the coming days.

Don't fall for this crap folks!

[uponit7771]

78. Nah, Tucker Carlson would never make something like this up /sarcasm

[G_j]

79. Something smells

[HopeAgain]

80. Carlson gave how many shits about immigrant children???

Back at you, Tucker.

[RhodeIslandOne]

82. Tucker lies multiple times a day on national TV

Why should I believe this?

[David__77]

86. Maybe his love for his own children can lead him to empathy for the children of others.

...

[OnDoutside]

90. He could hide them in a caravan ? Nobody is looking at caravans lately....

[ooky]

91. He has put his own family at risk.

[WillowTree]

104. No excuse.

[ooky]

111. Not saying it as an excuse.

Saying it as fact. He has responsbility for the lies and hate he has spread.

[mokawanis]

92. One thing we know for sure

is that Carlson is indeed a racist asshole.

[Kaleva]

93. Those people and their apologists are not us.

These types are consumed by hatred and live in a dark place. No different then hardcore Trump supporters. One can't call them and their apologists progressives or liberals because progressives and liberals don't make threats against others nor do we support those who do such things.

[yardwork]

98. Especially since this was probably faked by non/progressives.

[Kaleva]

103. Yes. Radical leftists are not progressives.

And these protesters could be radical right wingers involved in a false flag operation. Either way, they and their apologists are not progressives.

[Kaleva]

117. I never said anything about Antifa did I?

My argument is that those who were involved and those who think this is okay are not progressives.

[uponit7771]

123. wrong post, deleted

[LincolnRossiter]

100. I'm relatively new here and I can tell you that your post, as encouraging as it is...

Would have been easier to believe before this very thread. Seems like a lot of people think this is either (1) okay or (2) implausibly fake, in spite of seeing it supported by some folks here.

[WillowTree]

102. Disheartening, isn't it?

[Kaleva]

108. One doesn't have to be an actual progressive to be a member of DU.

[Demsrule86]

178. I do so hope you enjoy your stay ...welcome.

[yardwork]

99. Is there any evidence that this actually occurred?

Any evidence beyond Tucker's word? He's a known liar.

[WillowTree]

101. Yes. There are pictures. There was also a video on Twitter, but it's been taken down.

The last time I looked, the account of the people who posted the video was suspended.

[Demsrule86]

179. That is suspicious.

[WillowTree]

180. What's suspicious about it?

[Demsrule86]

199. Probably fake...

[yardwork]

200. Could you post the pictures?

And why would the video be taken down and their accounts suspended? That makes it sound like the video was discovered to be fake.

Tucker Carlson is known to be a liar. The right-wing is known to make stuff like this up to make Democrats look bad.

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Initech]

106. BTW - don't buy into what the deplorables are twisting this into.

I've got a couple of accounts captured - in one tweet they're claiming that Tucker Carlson is an innocent victim, the next tweet they're threatening and harassing Jim Acosta. You can't claim one and then do the opposite, that is blatant hypocrisy.

No matter which side you're on this is definitely wrong though.

[WillowTree]

182. They're threatening and harassing Jim Acosta and his family at their home?

I haven't seen anything about that in the news.

[Initech]

188. No just anonymously on the twittersphere.

I'm sure someone will try this though. Then knowing the right, they'll blow it off as a false flag.

[WillowTree]

194. Big difference, don't you think?

[David__77]

107. When I was in high school, some students committed vandalism on my behalf.

I was, and am, gay. There were some other students who didn't like that, and who threatened me with physical harm. Some female students who I didn't even know vandalized businesses of the parents of those students who threatened me.

Also, I did know "antifa" of that time - anti-racist skinheads and other anti-racist activists. They offered to defend me physically, if needed. They were prepared to put themselves on the line - I appreciated that.

One of the students who threatened me soon thereafter approached me. While I don't recall exactly what he said to me, he said something to the effect that he didn't want to be associated with the threats that were made against me.

To the extent that the cost of being openly racist and fascist can be raised very high, fewer people will do it. I'm not advocating for what those activists did outside Tucker Carlson's home. I'm saying that some people will choose their privacy and home over being an asshole.

[MontanaMama]

109. I have doubts that this occurred.

I question whether the official existence of antifa at all since the RWNJ contingent constantly refers to them...sounds like propaganda to me. In light of the fact that our own WH is peddling doctored videos....If video of this even exists or existed, it may have been staged. So, IF this thing actually occurred, and I have my doubts...while I’m all for publicly calling out fascists and racists. I do not support this when there are kids in the picture. That’s frightening as hell...they love their dad even though we abhor him and all he stands for. They only know him as their dad.

[David__77]

112. Yes, "antifa" exists.

I find it pretty easy to predict the coming rise of "left-wing extremism," including armed left-wing activity, in the period ahead. There are organized, right-wing movements creating the political grounds from which bombers and shooters are emerging.

I will not condemn the idea of confrontation with fascists and racists.

Prior to "antifa," there was Anti-Racist Action, John Brown Anti-Klan Committee, and I'm sure other anti-fascist groups who were committed to depriving freedom of action to fascists.

[uponit7771]

116. No, it does not. There's no organization called Antifa with contact points. It's mostly winger world

... shit at this point.

"Antifa" is nothing like JBAKC etc

[David__77]

120. Similarly, there's not organization could "alt right."

There are numerous Facebook groups, for instance, that refer to themselves as "antifa" and serve as hubs of organizing against fascists.

They're calling upon the imagery of the anti-Nazi German group Anti-Fascist Action.

Is there a single, official group called "Antifa?" No, there is not.

I do think there is such an entity as "antifa" - at least in my area.

[vi5]

136. Just because you keep saying this...

...does not make it true. People's insistence on here of using that as a talking point that if they repeat it enough makes it true is just the same type of bullshit as the Republicans shouting "fake news" at things they don't like or want to admit.

[BeyondGeography]

110. Maybe dad could switch careers

Go back to be just annoying like he was in the Crossfire days from full-on fascist enabler.

Would pay a lot less but it would be better for the kids.

[33taw]

113. I hope he took Lindsay's advice and called the police.

[WillowTree]

183. He wasn't at home, but I hope his wife took that measure.

[disillusioned73]

118. White supremacists

get no sympathy from me... they want to wipe me & my family off the map, @ the ballot box and I am sure in many other ways.. because he wears a bow tie while doing it doesn't it make it OK

[LanternWaste]

119. And thankfully, no one of any weight or gravity is arguing otherwise.

Simply a few outliers who know no consequences or relevance.

[Hortensis]

124. Twitter has banned this thug group, but FB needs to act.

I don't care where on the political spectrum this kind of thuggery and extremism currently comes from, we have a duty to stop it.

I'd remind those who disagree that aggressively hostile extremists are changeable and even frequently interchangeable. People who would block off Carlson's street and vandalize his home while issuing death threats today could be turned against someone you support another time.

The fascist and communist parties in Europe around this time last century were always trying to seduce the others' followers to themselves, and often succeeding. That's why "socialist' was tucked into the archconservative Nazi party's name and how some who started as zealots on the far left became jackbooted right wing thugs.

[Jake Stern]

127. The ideology he trumpets seeks to

- Turn my gay brother back into a non-person
- Strip my partner of her disability.
- Take away health insurance from our child

So yeah I take Carlson's ardent fascist apologia very, very personally.

Perhaps the protesters are wrong but truth be told I don't give a fuck what happens to this vile racist or his klan.

All my fucks are reserved for the people hurt by the kind of right wing asshattery this human cockroach espouses.

[jcmaine72]

131. As always, this stuff gets blown out of proportion

No one was injured or physically intimidated. Antifa isn't even a centralized organization. It sounds more like a group of conscientious, like-minded people got together and held a peaceful vigil at the home of a known propagandist and racist. I don't see any other facts that contradict that.

[disillusioned73]

144. The right can always count..

on the so called center (corporate media included), to shit on the left, this is what we have right here..

It's the whole, disturbing good folks at restaurants compared with actual violence/murders from the right narrative all over again.. rinse & repeat

[WillowTree]

184. They were pounding on & throwing themselves against the front door to the point that they cracked it

That doesn't sound like a "peaceful vigil" to me.

[Mr. Quackers]

149. Let me guess:

George Soros must have paid for this, right?

[BlueIndyBlue]

150. Stephen Colbert responds regarding Tucker Carlson

Link to tweet

Fighting Tucker Carlson’s ideas is an American right. Targeting his home and terrorizing his family is an act of monstrous cowardice. Obviously don’t do this, but also, take no pleasure in it happening. Feeding monsters just makes more monsters.

[True Dough]

154. +1 for Stephen Colbert

Sound reasoning.

[Kaleva]

167. +1

[WillowTree]

185. Cowardice is right.

[Initech]

191. That was a very classy response.

[RelativelyJones]

203. +1

[Demsrule86]

151. Upon looking into this...don't buy it...no arrests? Sounds like rightie BS.

No arrests

[Just a Weirdo]

166. I'm all out of fucks to give...

Come back later..

[Mr. Quackers]

168. LOVE IT

[kacekwl]

181. All this does is provide more

crap for him to whine about to his brain dead viewers. No help for us at all.

[Paladin]

187. To hell with Tucker Carlson, and the evil regime for which he provides daily pimp service. (nt)

[Initech]

190. And this is also feeding into the narrative that we're violent lunatics.

[Blue_Tires]

195. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[applegrove]

201. Terrible.

[Kingofalldems]

202. This was an out and out lie by Carlson:

Eyewitness:

https://thinkprogress.org/i-was-at-the-protest-outside-tucker-carlsons-house-heres-what-actually-happened-665c2dc0cb67/

Care to retract?