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Tripper11

(4,337 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:43 AM Nov 2018

Former FBI agent says Sarah Sanders libeled CNN's Jim Acosta with 'doctored' InfoWars video:

‘Your tweet is Exhibit A’

A former FBI special agent says White House press secretary Sarah Sanders libeled CNN reporter Jim Acosta by sharing an altered video of his interaction with an intern during a presidential news conference.
Asha Rangappa, a CNN contributor and former counterintelligence agent, said Sanders had met the standard of proof for libel — publishing a false statement to damage a person’s reputation.
“.@PressSec you are seriously tweeting out an obviously doctored video – from InfoWars no less – to substantiate a false accusation of assault against a journalist???” Rangappa tweeted.
“The standard for libel against a public figure is acting with ‘actual malice,’ and your tweet is Exhibit A,” she added.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/former-fbi-agent-says-sarah-sanders-libeled-cnns-jim-acosta-doctored-infowars-video-tweet-exhibit/

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Former FBI agent says Sarah Sanders libeled CNN's Jim Acosta with 'doctored' InfoWars video: (Original Post) Tripper11 Nov 2018 OP
Lock her up! MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #1
I think it was more than just Sanders NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
What an irony if Sanders gets caught peddling Fake News. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #10
Yes, supposedly it was Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars. PunkinPi Nov 2018 #11
doesn't matter, just retweeting it is libel. Google the current libel case against Joy reid of msnbc TeamPooka Nov 2018 #36
+10000 LAS14 Nov 2018 #38
Sue them malaise Nov 2018 #2
ruh roh for 2naSalit Nov 2018 #3
But who is going to charge her? LiberalLoner Nov 2018 #4
EndCorruption marieo1 Nov 2018 #31
Libel is a civil action. Acosta would need to file a civil suit in Court. There is no "charge". bench scientist Nov 2018 #48
The interesting thing to me is Raven Nov 2018 #6
It's not going to end well for them. ZZenith Nov 2018 #51
Sarah needs to resign FakeNoose Nov 2018 #7
As much as we would like to see it yuiyoshida Nov 2018 #17
Right. Sarah is going to resign. pangaia Nov 2018 #23
She does ck4829 Nov 2018 #25
You know how this works study war no more Nov 2018 #29
Sarah Suckabee Sanders Racerdog1 Nov 2018 #8
maybe more like Sarah Suckabee SLANDERS flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #16
That's her new name. Sarah Slanders. calimary Nov 2018 #26
The very first time she filled in as press secretary watoos Nov 2018 #9
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2018 #12
No surprise that the loudest shouting Fake News are the ones perpetrating fake news. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #13
Masters Of Projection. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #15
Huckabuck Sanders is a pathological liar. gademocrat7 Nov 2018 #14
Acosta should sue her ass off. Perhaps she was abused as a child. Autumn Nov 2018 #18
You mean daughter of a preacher man? watoos Nov 2018 #19
Yep. Autumn Nov 2018 #20
Huckster Huckabee? True Blue American Nov 2018 #50
Yep ck4829 Nov 2018 #57
Acosta should float the notion he's considering filing suit - I want to see Suckabee squirm. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #21
Not just float-he needs to DO IT. His career will suffer because of this without question. flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #32
Not just float but do it! Duppers Nov 2018 #45
Well, they have revoked his press credentials Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #47
Why is ANYBODY in comments here surprised at this? pangaia Nov 2018 #22
Well I guess we'll all just go home and shut up then? flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #27
I didn't say that. pangaia Nov 2018 #30
That's supposed to be the takeaway, innit? ZZenith Nov 2018 #53
K&R ck4829 Nov 2018 #24
Sue her ass! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #28
CNN should fund a lawsuit by Acosta. Think of the discovery phase, Jeff Zucker. Ratings gold!!! RockRaven Nov 2018 #33
Right cause that's all those assholes care about! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #34
Michele Wolf was too easy on Sanders. nt Habibi Nov 2018 #35
How can you tell it is altered? hueymahl Nov 2018 #37
here is the undoctored clip in slow mo Hamlette Nov 2018 #39
THANKS! hueymahl Nov 2018 #41
I hope Acosta sues the shit out of them, I really do. Initech Nov 2018 #40
K&R uppityperson Nov 2018 #42
Standard Trumpian procedure treestar Nov 2018 #43
The libel seems clear. TomSlick Nov 2018 #44
Libel per se. She accused him of placing his hands on intern, ie battery a crime of moral turpitude bench scientist Nov 2018 #49
Sorry for the delay. I've been off the grid. TomSlick Nov 2018 #58
true depends on where filed. bench scientist Nov 2018 #59
Sunny Hostin on The View stated that, from a legal point, the intern avebury Nov 2018 #46
Wouldn't it be nice if Fucking Gaslighter Cha Nov 2018 #52
The press should hound her every chance they get duforsure Nov 2018 #54
Jim Acosta should hold them to account and take it to court. Vinca Nov 2018 #55
I thought I recognized that face... chwaliszewski Nov 2018 #56

PunkinPi

(4,870 posts)
11. Yes, supposedly it was Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018


The original video may be from alt-right professional liar, Paul Joseph Watson, of Infowars who unlike CNN's Jim @Acosta, was one of the few "press" agencies granted White House press credentials. He is often supporting white nationalist groups. pic.twitter.com/BjNckPZpYv

TeamPooka

(24,123 posts)
36. doesn't matter, just retweeting it is libel. Google the current libel case against Joy reid of msnbc
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:40 PM
Nov 2018

and notice the details are almost identical and Joy will probably lose that case too.

LiberalLoner

(9,760 posts)
4. But who is going to charge her?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:03 AM
Nov 2018

Seems like this administration gets away with way too much illegal and immoral crap.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
31. EndCorruption
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

I have wondered the same, seems like they can just do whatever they want and no one ever charges them. This WH is so corrupt and we keep hearing about it and yet nothing happens. I am baffled by all of it. If the average citizen did half of what people (DJT) does, we'd be in court in a heartbeat.

Raven

(13,864 posts)
6. The interesting thing to me is
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:06 AM
Nov 2018

she did this in spite of the fact that there were dozens of people in the room who witnessed what happened. It's clear to me that the WH knows what a rout the mid-terms were for them and that from now on they will play only to the Infowars crowd because that's all they have left. Not that I didn't know this before, but we are in for a very rocky ride and it's not going to end well. What I'm not sure of is whether it's not going to end well for them or for us.

FakeNoose

(32,202 posts)
7. Sarah needs to resign
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:06 AM
Nov 2018

This has gone way too far. Sanders has demonstrated terrible judgment, inexcusable treatment of the media (not just Jim Acosta), and besides that she's all-around incompetent in the job of White House press secretary.

She has to go!



pangaia

(24,324 posts)
23. Right. Sarah is going to resign.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:22 AM
Nov 2018

And I am going to order steamed sea cucumber for lunch at Wendy's.




 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
8. Sarah Suckabee Sanders
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:09 AM
Nov 2018

This goofy ass thing gets paraded out to spew shit and lies every day. Nothing new to see here. Go back and join the hogs on your farm.

calimary

(80,521 posts)
26. That's her new name. Sarah Slanders.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:38 AM
Nov 2018

It’s also a complete sentence, with a noun and a verb. Accurately depicting that “job” she has.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
9. The very first time she filled in as press secretary
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nov 2018

I knew she was going to get the job permanently. She is the only person. other than Trump, who puts Bagdad Bob to shame.

MontanaMama

(23,219 posts)
15. Masters Of Projection.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:35 AM
Nov 2018

If the media was not on red alert before, they should be now. Gloves should be off. This is a clear threat to what the WH is willing to do. Nobody is safe.

gademocrat7

(10,615 posts)
14. Huckabuck Sanders is a pathological liar.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:26 AM
Nov 2018

She needs to be held accountable for her behavior. Remedy for Acosta through the courts.

Autumn

(44,686 posts)
18. Acosta should sue her ass off. Perhaps she was abused as a child.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:59 AM
Nov 2018

Have you seen her father and brothers? Maybe being evil is her way of acting out.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
32. Not just float-he needs to DO IT. His career will suffer because of this without question.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

He has a clear case for filing suit. This is the only thing that will get this fuckers to stop. Threats will do nothing. Doing nothing is a clear signal that their tactics are working, which will ensure more of the same.

SUE HER FUCKING ASS OFF.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
47. Well, they have revoked his press credentials
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:48 PM
Nov 2018

which is impacting his ability to access what he needs to do his job. He should file suit.

C'mon CNN, get on this. If you fail to respond, this will become the norm. And it will only get worse. Please take a stand for what's right and just. FILE SUIT. NOW.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. Why is ANYBODY in comments here surprised at this?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:20 AM
Nov 2018

Or wondering why she isn't charged with something?

There has been a fascist coup...


No more....

"How bad can it get?

How can she/he do/say that?

What's next?


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. Sue her ass!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:42 AM
Nov 2018

And anyone else in the White House that assisted her in this false accusation against CNN and Jim Acosta!

How damn long is the MSM going to let Dump and his minions get away with these lies and deceptions?

RockRaven

(14,709 posts)
33. CNN should fund a lawsuit by Acosta. Think of the discovery phase, Jeff Zucker. Ratings gold!!!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:14 PM
Nov 2018

[gotta appeal to his base business instincts, not any sense of right and wrong]

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Right cause that's all those assholes care about!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:16 PM
Nov 2018

That was made abundantly clear when Orange Hitler was running for office!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. Standard Trumpian procedure
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:30 PM
Nov 2018

Get everyone talking about this so we are not talking about his failures and lies.

TomSlick

(11,013 posts)
44. The libel seems clear.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:39 PM
Nov 2018

However, it is unclear that Acosta has suffered any damages because of the libel. CNN seems to be standing behind him.

In some jurisdiction, it is possible to be rewarded "nominal damages" if no actual damages can be proven. However, I question the utility of a lawsuit to "clear the name." Anyone Acosta cares about knows that Sarah is lying - again.




bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
49. Libel per se. She accused him of placing his hands on intern, ie battery a crime of moral turpitude
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:27 AM
Nov 2018

Should be libel per se where damages are presumed and need not be pled.

TomSlick

(11,013 posts)
58. Sorry for the delay. I've been off the grid.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:29 PM
Nov 2018

Still depends on the jurisdiction. In some, like mine, damages must be proven.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
59. true depends on where filed.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:49 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:01 AM - Edit history (1)

In DC, any written or printed statement that falsely accuses someone of committing a crime constitutes defamation per se. Raboya v. Shrybman & Associates, 777 F.Supp. 58 (D.D.C. 1991).
Likely would still have to make the actual malice standard (knowing that the statements were false or recklessly disregarding their falsity) though if Acosta sued Sanders.
Interesting to see what would happen.

avebury

(10,941 posts)
46. Sunny Hostin on The View stated that, from a legal point, the intern
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:42 PM
Nov 2018

actually committed battery on Jim Acosta.

Cha

(295,517 posts)
52. Wouldn't it be nice if Fucking Gaslighter
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 05:04 AM
Nov 2018

sarah fucking sanders got what's coming to her.. Sociopathic *****.

duforsure

(11,880 posts)
54. The press should hound her every chance they get
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 06:39 AM
Nov 2018

Asking her why she used a doctored video , a fake video.

Vinca

(50,150 posts)
55. Jim Acosta should hold them to account and take it to court.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:45 AM
Nov 2018

It's time for their lies NOT to be the norm and NOT to be automatically accepted.

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