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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:50 AM

"Incels" Like The Florida Yoga Studio Shooter Are Probably Not Being Tracked By The Feds

He was radicalized on the internet. He shot a group of strangers. But Scott Beierle, who killed two women and injured four others in a Florida yoga studio on Friday, is in all likelihood not a terrorist in the eyes of the federal government.

Federal laws do not provide authorities with a way to prosecute men who become violent as part of their vendetta against women as domestic terrorists, experts say. And because they’re unlikely to fall into this category, there's no national system in place to track the rise of attacks by "incels" who are steeped in violent ideology.

"We have perfect records of international terrorism prosecution — we have really miserable records for domestic terrorism," Mary McCord, a professor at Georgetown Law School and former head of the US Department of Justice's national security division, told BuzzFeed News.

Another self-described "incel" is awaiting trial for the murders of 10 people in Toronto earlier this year. Both men had aligned themselves with Elliot Rodger, who became something of an "incel" hero after he killed six people and injured 14 in a shooting in Isla Vista, California, in 2014. Almost a decade ago, in 2009, a man wrote about his hatred of women online before shooting and killing three women at a gym in suburban Pittsburgh.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/an-extremist-shot-women-to-death-in-florida-but-the-feds

Hopefully, the incoming majority can right this wrong and we can help our country defend itself against radical incels.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:36 AM

1. How would you track them?

Mental health for these types of people starts in the home. Parents need to know what's going on with their kids and show interest in their lives.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:39 AM

2. The same way we track neo-nazis and white supremacists

These guys aren't isolated people, they do have websites and groups.

This will be something the House Committee on Homeland Security could look into.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:41 AM

3. They are by definition highly isolated and anonymous.

They will find groups of people to talk to online, but their postings will be under anonymous nicknames, and they will likely not keep a lasting presence. Look at the guy who killed Grimmie, who basically ghosted himself, tossed his hard drive, disappeared. Nothing is known about that dude.

You look at the ones we do know about, like the Parkland shooter, and you have one case where he told his brother he was messed up, and that's it. The people caring for him showed little interest in his mental health. And when he did post something on YouTube the FBI barely even noticed it until much later.

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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:24 AM

4. Neither are DIY Gop political operatives n/t

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