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Wed Nov 7, 2018, 06:32 PM

Mail-in ballots just flipped another race to the Democrats!

Holy mackerel. The NJ 3rd District was sitting with 1% of the precincts still out until this afternoon. That didn't mean 1% of the votes, it just meant they hadn't counted the mail-ins in Burlington County yet. Andy Kim went from being down to that (I'll be polite and delete the word I had originally put here) Tom MacArthur by 2,000 votes to being 3,000 votes in the lead! That means that just one of NJ's 12 congressional districts remain in Republican hands. That's Chris Smith who has held the seat since the Abscam scandal took out the guy who had it before him. This was a seriously republican district full of retirement communities, ultra-conservative orthodox Jews, military bases and some redneck areas of the Pinelands. 4 flipped seats in the state. Wow!

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Reply Mail-in ballots just flipped another race to the Democrats! (Original post)
Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 7 OP
mobeau69 Nov 7 #1
NewJeffCT Nov 7 #16
Blue_true Nov 7 #19
defacto7 Nov 7 #24
rpannier Nov 7 #27
sheshe2 Nov 7 #2
Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 7 #3
sheshe2 Nov 7 #5
Cha Nov 7 #4
ailsagirl Nov 8 #54
Honeycombe8 Nov 7 #6
NBachers Nov 7 #7
FakeNoose Nov 7 #8
aeromanKC Nov 7 #9
Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 7 #10
Lonestarblue Nov 7 #13
Blue_true Nov 7 #23
47of74 Nov 8 #41
3catwoman3 Nov 7 #29
BigmanPigman Nov 7 #11
C Moon Nov 7 #14
DesertRat Nov 7 #12
BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #15
True Blue American Nov 8 #33
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #34
True Blue American Nov 8 #36
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #38
True Blue American Nov 8 #39
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #40
True Blue American Nov 8 #42
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #44
3Hotdogs Nov 8 #43
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #45
3Hotdogs Nov 8 #48
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #49
VOX Nov 7 #17
iluvtennis Nov 7 #18
Blue_true Nov 7 #20
mr_lebowski Nov 8 #52
njhoneybadger Nov 7 #21
Tiggeroshii Nov 7 #22
Blue_true Nov 7 #25
Tiggeroshii Nov 7 #26
Blue_true Nov 7 #28
Pepsidog Nov 7 #30
Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 7 #31
Pepsidog Nov 7 #32
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #35
Pepsidog Nov 8 #47
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #51
Pepsidog Nov 8 #55
onetexan Nov 8 #37
Loubee Nov 8 #46
Niagara Nov 8 #50
cstanleytech Nov 8 #53

Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 06:37 PM

1. Yep. CNN just changed the total to 223!

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:49 PM

16. 223?

I thought Democrats were over 230?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:26 PM

19. Last I saw Dems were at around 229. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:41 PM

24. Wow, NYT is behind the ball. still 222.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:44 PM

27. Probably waiting until there is greater certainty

Given this story, the Florida senate race (possibly governor as well), they're probably insulating themselves as much as possible
Most people have given up putin's congressman for dead, but last I checked CNN hadn't called it yet

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 06:44 PM

2. Excellent

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 06:52 PM

3. Not my favorite song-but appropriate!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:04 PM

5. Ha!

Perfect.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:03 PM

4. Thank You for letting us know, Dread Pirate!

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:24 PM

54. ditto here!!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:12 PM

6. WOW!!! What a nice surprise!



I'll update my lists!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:14 PM

7. And The Hits Just Keep On Comin'

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:15 PM

8. Love it!



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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:15 PM

9. Yes!! The viral town hall guy went down!!

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:17 PM

10. That's him!

What a douche bag. But then again, Congress wouldn't be Congress without a douche bag in it!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:24 PM

13. I believe Jim Jordan fills the douche bag quota.

What is wring with Ohio voters!

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:34 PM

23. Ohio is fighting with Indiana to be Northern Mississippi. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:56 AM

41. And Iowa.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:54 PM

29. So glad this creep got the boot

That angry husband/dad gave a righteous rant reminiscent of Keith Olbermann. What eloquence.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:23 PM

11. ALL the races within 1 point of each other must have a recount and/or run off.

The GOP cheats and steals and lies and it must be mandatory in all races in the future. It is one way of keeping them from taking over the majority by the criminal minority.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:42 PM

14. Yep.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:24 PM

12. Yes!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:46 PM

15. I was happy to see MacArthur go down

He had gotten so cocky that was eventually ostracized and resigned his co-chair of their moderate caucus, and went it alone with his bullshit amendment to the ACA "replacement", bowing down to the teabaggers -

Much of the public pushback from fellow moderates was over concern the amendment MacArthur crafted would alter one of Obamacare’s most popular provisions: a prohibition on charging higher rates for people with pre-existing conditions. Other members said the amendment failed to address their main concern regarding the rollback of federal funds for Medicaid expansion included in the original bill.

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“Advancing careless and irresponsible legislation that has zero chance of passage in the Senate is neither governing nor compromise; it’s political suicide and completely tone deaf,” said one member of the Tuesday Group who was enraged by MacArthur’s claims that some in the group cared about politics more than governing. "Compromising means advancing policies that actually gets signed into law, something Congressman McArthur clearly doesn’t understand.”

MacArthur, a two-term congressman whose district includes parts of Ocean and Burlington counties, has served as co-chair of the Tuesday Group for less than five months, alongside Reps. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania and Elise Stefanik of New York.

It was largely because of MacArthur that the replacement bill for Obamacare, also known as the Affordable Care Act, was revived. After Ryan pulled an earlier version of the American Health Care Act because of a lack of support, the amendment MacArthur negotiated with Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina, the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, garnered enough support to pass the House.

https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/05/23/macarthur-resigns-as-co-chair-of-tuesday-group-112255


What is it they say? "Good riddance to bad rubbish."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:58 AM

33. McArthur went down?

Thanks, I have wanted that since watching the angry Husband!

And people were saying,” Those angry people will not do a thing!” Hah!

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:02 AM

34. On the radio here in Philly, they are saying that he doesn't want to concede

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:09 AM

36. Jon Husted

Was in charge of the Ohio election.

Mike DeWine and Husted are the apparent winners. Not a done deal.

Husted filed so many Law Suits in the last election.lost everyone. Fired two local Officials, one I know. They won their jobs back, but refused to work for Husted.

The one is now on my small city Council, his wife is on the County council. It is now all Democratic women. Our new Mayor is a Democrat.

While much of Ohio is still having serious problems our area is booming like crazy. Dayton also has a Democratic Mayor. She has performed miracles in a city that lost 5 GM plants under Bush

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:23 AM

38. I remember when Pittsburgh went through the same thing

when the steel plants closed decades ago and the metro area was in collapse trying to find some sort of transitional industry. They eventually were able to become a medical research hub thanks to Pitt (and their UPMC) and Carnegie-Mellon.

Seems OH has lost its way but I think it will regroup. One thing that I always chuckle about is that for its size, OH probably has more "well known" cities than almost every other state!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:37 AM

39. Dayton

And Cincinnati are verging on becoming one city.

I went from Dayton to Hamilton, was actually shocked at how much they have merged. Am actually going again Saturday to a 95th Birthday celebration.

Just heard that Trump visied Wyoming 4 times. Tester won. Same thing happened in Pennsylvania and Michigan.

I think we have lost the Rust belt name in all 3 states.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:51 AM

40. Well those 2 cities are a bit of a distance apart

but yeah, go up and down I-75 and the metro area is slowly filling in (at least once they finally finished all the damn construction on I-75)

My sister and her hubby (he was born & raised there and both used to work there before moving back here) go there a couple times a year to visit his mom and sister and nieces/nephews and I always laugh about how they always managed to pick the wrong time to go when some storm (hurricane remnants or snow) always seems to hit while they are on the road (they drive from outside of Philly).

And regarding that term "Rust Belt" - I have said for years that all you need to do is scrape off that rust and you will find shiny new steel underneath, with a strong foundation that you don't see built much anymore. And that rust removal has been accelerating rapidly.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #40)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:23 AM

42. I went to Lebanon

So we drove through parts of Middletown. New Hospitals across the street from each other,new businesses everywhere,741 exapnded.

To be honest I prefer the North of Dayton,along 1 70. It is now growing, but much slower. I like that.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:37 AM

44. Proctor and Gamble used to rule there too

Now, barely hear about them anymore although I just saw they are planning to open a big plant in WV (and close other plants).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:26 AM

43. Concede or not, does not matter. It's the secretary of state's declaration that counts.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:44 AM

45. ....





(sorry...couldn't resist )

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #45)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:46 AM

48. Reminds me of when I was a little doggie. I could eat all three at one sitting.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

49. Hee hee

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 07:50 PM

17. Top stuff!

That is excellent news!

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Response to VOX (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:24 PM

18. +++ agree

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:31 PM

20. This dynamic is why I think Sinema in Arizona is in good shape to win.

Blue voters seem to be notorious for mailing in ballots last minute. Republicans get theirs in early. In one special election earlier this year, the democrat reduced a republican's 4000 vote advantage to 700 votes with just 6400 mailin ballots. It has been reported that there maybe around 700,000-800,000 million uncounted mailin ballots in the Arizona race, Sinema is down by ~16,000 votes.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:45 PM

52. I resemble that remark!

My mail-in ballot ... went in the ballot box at my local polling place on Nov. 6.

But IT WAS THERE!!!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:32 PM

21. Far Out Man



His opponent labeled him as "Far out"

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:33 PM

22. Maybe this could give hope to Florida's governor race as well?

it is within .6% and if there are still mail in ballots to be counted, maybe it could eat into the 40,000 or so vote lead that desantis has...

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:41 PM

25. It could.

My family are all Dems. Some love to do mailin ballots and wait until the last minute to mail them. I bet that if there are 300,000-400,000 mailin ballots uncounted, Gillum could end up with the lead once they are counted.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:43 PM

26. I suspect we will know by Saturday befote the senate recount

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:47 PM

28. Should. BTW, the late mailins could also boost Nelson too.

Both he and Gillum could end up defeating their opponents.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:31 PM

30. This is MY district. My wife and 4 Kids all voted for Kim. My son came home from medical school to

vote and my other son who is a righty voted for Kim because he had a cancer scare this summer. He is 22 years old and is fine but I told him he now has a pre-existing condition. It scared the republican right out of him and he voted for Kim. I learned about Kim winning on DU sitting around the table with all my kids celebrating my youngest daughters 20 birthday. I was so proud walking into the precinct to vote with all my kids. Last time we did this was my youngest daughters first time voting and I told her she is voting for the first woman president. Great job NJ 3rd. There were tons of Kim signs, twice I had people canvassing for Kim at my door, I got about 15 text messages. That is how you get out the vote. This district is very red but the pre-existing condition motivated us to kick MacArthur out.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:49 PM

31. Are you in the Burlington part of the district or Ocean County?

Just curious about what the vibe was like around you. I'm in the 7th and you could just feel the change in the air. It feels good to finally get democratic representation. Glad to hear that you've been released from the yoke of republican tyranny as well.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:33 PM

32. I am in.Mt. Laurel, Burlco. Lots of Kim signs,like 2 years ago I got concerned cause just saw

Trump signs. I know it sounds dumb, but. There were Kim’s signs all around. Lines here since 1976 and never remember getting so many door-hangers and canvancing knocks in front door. I went to bed and woke up thinking Kim had lost. Burlco went heavy Dem. even Moorestown and Evesham flipped. When I checked DU tonight saw that Kim won. It felt great with all the kids home celebrating my daughters birthday. I think Dems only held this seat once in last 100 years, John Adler was the last who died suddenly. Anyway it was a great win. A lot effort put forth by a lot of people. It was great to see.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:30 AM

35. "I am in.Mt. Laurel, Burlco." - Diane Allen's (former) area?



You all are LONG overdue to go purple/blue. The area (including Cherry Hill, etc) was always old-school GOP, has been for decades and stayed that way even when the 'burbs here on the other side of the river N & W of Philly finally started to break. I am guessing because over the past decade, the GOP has suddenly gone so extreme that a breaking point was finally reached for some. The Tom Kean Republican seems to have gone extinct - especially when you have that type decide to drink the koolaid and start acting loon.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

47. You are correct. It seems that breaking point was MacArthur's decision to revive Obamacare repeal.

When it happened, I felt like I had when Comey revived the email investigation 10 days before the election. It was a punch in the gut. Of all the reps it was my rep who did this. What does he care, I understand MacArthur is worth about 35 million. To people who don’t understand Obamacare, I refer them to shows like Breaking Bad which was premised on a high school
Chemistry teacher who maxed out his healthcare benefits fighting cancer. Walt resorted to manufacturing and selling crystal meth to pay for treatment. People generally understand that. Dems have to stay on message. Preserve, protect and expand Obamacare and Medicare. Use scare tactics like R’a do with crime and immigration to mobilize. Rs will take away your Medicare and healthcare. Beat these bastards.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:43 PM

51. I think this powerful ad needs to be resurrected, updated, and put on TV

as it goes to your point -



(they freaked when it first aired and continue to freak out, meaning it is effective)

And although I never watched Breaking Bad, I had friends who did so I heard about it weekly.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:06 PM

55. Brilliant! Love it

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:14 AM

37. WOOHOO!!

Congrats to NJ Congresman-elect Kim!!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:45 AM

46. This is why GOP hates absentee ballots and

why so many of their campaigns try to destroy, hide, or delay them whenever possible. They know they are usually mostly Democratic.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:38 PM

50. This is great news!!

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:59 PM

53. That's why the Repugnants are trying to kill the counting of them here in Georgia

as they know the odds are the majority will be for Stacey Abrams.

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