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Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:08 AM

Skyscraper farms poised to grow globally

https://www.pressherald.com/2018/11/03/skyscraper-farms-are-about-to-go-global/

n a suburb of Kyoto in Japan, surrounded by technology companies and startups, Spread Co. is preparing to open the world’s largest automated leaf-vegetable factory. It’s the company’s second vertical farm and could mark a turning point for vertical farming – bringing the cost low enough to compete with traditional farms on a large scale.

For decades, vertical farms that grow produce indoors without soil in stacked racks have been touted as a solution to rising food demand in the world’s expanding cities. The problem has always been reproducing the effect of natural rain, soil and sunshine at a cost that makes the crop competitive with traditional agriculture.

Spread is among a handful of commercial firms that claim to have cracked the problem with a mix of robotics, technology and scale.

Its new facility in Keihanna Science City, known as Japan’s Silicon Valley, will grow 30,000 heads of lettuce a day on racks under custom-designed LED lights. A sealed room protects the vegetables from pests, diseases and dirt. Temperature and humidity are optimized to speed growth of the greens, which are fed, tended and harvested by robots.

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Reply Skyscraper farms poised to grow globally (Original post)
jpak Nov 4 OP
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 4 #1
Ohiogal Nov 4 #2
yonder Nov 4 #3
BumRushDaShow Nov 4 #4
yonder Nov 4 #7
BumRushDaShow Nov 4 #8
FSogol Nov 4 #9
Adrahil Nov 4 #5
yonder Nov 4 #6

Response to jpak (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:13 AM

1. rooftop garden in NYC

On this side of the pond:


Brooklyn Grange Rooftop Farm is currently the largest commercial rooftop farm in America.

Although they have “Brooklyn” in their name, their flagship farm actually sits atop an old auto-parts factory in Queens and is roughly an acre in size. They recently added a second, larger location on top of an old Naval yard building.

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https://www.growingagreenerworld.com/rooftop-farming-in-nyc/


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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:13 AM

2. It's a good idea

As long as it doesn't allow Republicans to think that now they have free license to pollute our land to their heart's content, and deport any farm workers permanently.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:40 AM

3. Perhaps okay as an experiment, but eventual entropic diminishing returns, in my view.

Why do some think mankind can improve on the energy of the sun in providing for our needs from land and water? Is it to give those who would reason to Scorch-Earth our available resources while profiting the same?

I believe we got it backwards here. A healthy planet should provide everything we need. Maintaining that is where the focus needs to be. Otherwise we have what's-his-name yowling "Soylent Green is people".


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Response to yonder (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:49 AM

4. I think this is still useful

in terms of perfecting and eventually setting up artificial environments on the moon and/or on other planets.

Sortof brings to mind the famous movie I always loved - "Silent Running" -

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 04:19 PM

7. ...one of my favourite movies ever.

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Response to yonder (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 04:30 PM

8. Bruce Dern was fantastic

and every time I see him, I think of his daughter now too... wow.

(he turned 82 this year... yikes!)

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Response to yonder (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 04:34 PM

9. Same here. n/t

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Response to yonder (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 03:11 PM

5. As Climate Change devastates arable land....

something like this might save billions of lives.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 4, 2018, 04:17 PM

6. Yes, it might. For a while.

But it wouldn't change the reason why this might be necessary. And here's my argument: When those billions of lives are dependent on an alternate means of production rather than a traditional means, who is going to be profiting on these new sorts of developments? Those billions (including you and I) are not. And when push comes to shove, after a problem turns up in our new system of production which limits it's output? Who is going to be eating then? Not you and I, but the folks who can afford it.

Same thing with clean air and water. We might discover a way to make clean air out of old Chevys and clean water out of old Fords. We might be able to provide for everyone for a while, but when that human designed system begins failing and push comes to shove, it won't be you and I breathing that clean air and drinking that clean water. It will be those who made it impossible to dig a well on our newly uninhabitable land.

No, it starts with changing how we use what we have to equitably benefit a sustainable population. We've got to stop messing in our nest because it's the only one we have. I don't have much hope that we shall be able to so because it just doesn't pencil out for those driving the bus. And right now we've missed the last stop and well on the road to nowhere, IMO.



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