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Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:42 PM

My MAGA encounter last night

I drive Uber to supplement my other job. I picked up a guy in a nice area in Houston's Spring Branch neighborhood. He was going about 8 miles to the Greenway Plaza area to a bar called Kirby Icehouse.

I generally have my radio on Houston Public Radio which is an NPR station. There was a segment on where they were talking about malnutrition in Gaza, I think. He asked me what I was listening to and I said Houston Public Radio and he said "Well, it sounds like some Muslim propaganda". I was taken aback that he would say that and I said. "I don't need your opinion about what I'm listening to, do you want me to change it". He said yes and I changed it to a rock station.

We got to our exit and then we turned on Westheimer and got stopped at the train and it was a really long train, and then another train in the opposite direction. It seemed like forever. I had right away changed the subject but it was awkward and after the train left I just couldn't keep from saying. "Can I give you a suggestion?" He said yes and I said "Next time you ride Uber, you don't have to give me your racist opinion of what I'm listening to. Just ask to change the channel."

He said "Well, I don't want to listen to your opinions either"

I said "Fine, then just say 'Could we please turn the radio to something else?' "

Then he said "Well, I'm paying you."

That's where I said "Not anymore. I want you out of my car."

I pulled over real quick and he said "I don't want to ride with you either. I'm reporting you. MAGA" and slammed the door.

I called Uber right away and reported the incident. I made sure that I told them that the guy said "Muslim propaganda" The guy I talked to had an foreign accent so he very well could have been a Muslim. He said that he didn't think I did anything wrong since I've been driving for Uber and have a good rating and over 2000 rides. It shook me up a little so I used the next half-hour or so to go get more gas and eat a cookie.

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cannabis_flower Oct 28 OP
Agschmid Oct 28 #1
DonaldsRump Oct 28 #2
rzemanfl Oct 28 #3
RHMerriman Oct 28 #4
libdem4life Oct 28 #9
LiberalLovinLug Oct 28 #38
MyOwnPeace Oct 28 #5
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #8
deurbano Oct 28 #55
blugbox Oct 29 #72
Wellstone ruled Oct 28 #6
libdem4life Oct 28 #7
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #10
TEB Oct 28 #11
Fla Dem Oct 28 #12
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #16
violetpastille Oct 28 #13
TexasBushwhacker Oct 28 #14
kairos12 Oct 28 #15
trueblue2007 Oct 28 #17
StarryNite Oct 28 #18
Hekate Oct 28 #20
2naSalit Oct 28 #25
Grasswire2 Oct 28 #28
Initech Oct 28 #42
Different Drummer Oct 28 #50
RhodeIslandOne Oct 29 #66
OMGWTF Oct 28 #29
safeinOhio Oct 28 #19
Hekate Oct 28 #21
Cha Oct 28 #22
samnsara Oct 28 #23
samnsara Oct 28 #24
TNNurse Oct 28 #26
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 29 #59
kaotikross Oct 28 #27
trixie2 Oct 28 #35
calimary Oct 29 #58
The Mouth Oct 29 #78
elleng Oct 28 #30
GETPLANING Oct 28 #31
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #41
dalton99a Oct 29 #63
TwistOneUp Oct 29 #74
geardaddy Oct 28 #32
benld74 Oct 28 #33
magicarpet Oct 28 #34
enid602 Oct 28 #36
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vlyons Oct 28 #39
CharleyDog Oct 28 #40
ooky Oct 28 #43
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #47
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cannabis_flower Oct 28 #46
oberliner Oct 28 #48
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #51
RhodeIslandOne Oct 29 #67
oberliner Oct 29 #71
NoMoreRepugs Oct 28 #49
SimpleC Oct 28 #52
cannabis_flower Oct 28 #53
SimpleC Oct 28 #54
lunasun Oct 28 #56
mtnsnake Oct 28 #57
Scarsdale Oct 29 #60
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JayhawkSD Oct 29 #64
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UpInArms Oct 29 #69
RVN VET71 Oct 29 #70
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:44 PM

1. You did the right thing.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:44 PM

2. i'd rate you a 5 star+

What a snowflake (him, not you)!

You did the right thing. Thank you for the courage.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:45 PM

3. K&R. n/t

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:45 PM

4. No shoes, no shirt, no decency, no service...

No shoes, no shirt, no decency, no service...

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Response to RHMerriman (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:50 PM

9. Good and necessary addition for our New Normal public rules! n/t

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Response to RHMerriman (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 04:05 PM

38. No deplorables

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:46 PM

5. Cookies are good!

MAGAnuts suck!

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:50 PM

8. Amen!

Oatmeal raisin cookies. I would have rather had sugar cookies but the other choice was chocolate chip and macadamia and of the three I'd rather have the oatmeal raisin cookies because at least I can tell myself they are not as unhealthy.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:32 PM

55. Agree with everything you said and did... except the oatmeal with raisins (!) cookie!

That's the oh-crap-I-assumed-it-was-chocolate-chip cookie....

Other than that... well done!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:05 PM

72. I applaud you sticking to your morals

and also your cookie choice! I JUST got done eating an oatmeal raisin cookie! I'm staring at the napkin with crumbs as I type this.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:48 PM

6. Proud of you for your handeling that Racist idiot.

You made the right call and you notified your Superiors as per requirements.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:48 PM

7. Wow...good work and quick thinking. Glad it turned out OK for you.

Hope it was a chocolate chip cookie...LOL.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:51 PM

10. Nope

Oatmeal raisin. I only like chocolate chip every once in a while. I would have rather had a sugar cookie but they didn't have them.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:56 PM

11. Good for you

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 01:59 PM

12. Props to you. Hope he was stuck out in the wilderness.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:16 PM

16. Sadly no.

I dropped him off at a ritzy area near River Oaks on Westheimer. We had just passed a Starbucks.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:03 PM

13. Or you can play it another way.

I tried and failed to bond with a Trump voter on something that I thought everyone can find consensus on.

What moves you? I asked. What gets you every time and your heart just opens? For me it's hungry kids. I can't not put myself right in the shoes of children who are not being nourished. I start crying just thinking about it.

He got angry, defensive and said,

I have NEVER in my life WANTED for ANYTHING!

Oh. I said. Well good for you then.

Like I said. You can play it the other way.

To what result..I honestly don't know.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:06 PM

14. Hi from Houston!

I live on the west side.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:13 PM

15. MAGA. No service as they have no decency.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:20 PM

17. God bless you Democrat friend. YOU ARE AWESOME.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:31 PM

18. He actually ended by saying, "MAGA"?

What a flippin' idiot. I don't think I could have held back my laughter as I told him to get his MAGA ass out of my car.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:41 PM

20. Sounds like it's the new "Sieg Heil"

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Response to Hekate (Reply #20)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:02 PM

25. Sure does...nt

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Response to Hekate (Reply #20)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:07 PM

28. !!!!!

Need to use that, DU.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #20)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 06:55 PM

42. They should change it to "MANA" - Make America Nazi Again!

Or Make Nazis Great Again!

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Response to Initech (Reply #42)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:58 PM

50. Or maybe this.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #20)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:15 AM

66. Was just about to post that

It's their secret word, their mantra, their security blanket.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:08 PM

29. That makes this guy a MAGAt

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:40 PM

19. It is hard to reply to a racist that expects

you are part of the group.
My last quick reply was to a kid that worked at a gas station. When I paid him I missed counted my change and was a nickel short. He smiled and said "are you trying to Jew me". My quick reply was, I'm Jewish. Wish I had a picture of his face. I'd like to think I would have said to your ride, I'm a Muslim.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:42 PM

21. Stay safe, friend

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:45 PM

22. Good on you, cf. That's

how you deal with a brainwashed asshole.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:52 PM

23. you handled that very well!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 02:53 PM

24. they are so deplorable. trumps given them the right to behave as any..

...14 yr old would!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:03 PM

26. Please be careful out there.

Every day I am grateful that I am retired and no longer have to interact with the public for my job. You never know who may get into your vehicle. I worried about who would come into the ER. I believe it has become more secure since I left but nothing is secure.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #26)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:30 AM

59. my worry

MAGA people have demonstrated they are not quite right in the head. My worry in that situation is that it would turn out to be an armed MAGAt with no self-restraint.

Better to take the ex-cabbie's advice, below in the thread.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:04 PM

27. As an ex-cabbie, some advice.

I drove a cab for years and learned to be a sociopath with those kinds of people. Do you believe what they spout? No. Will you vote the way he votes? No. Can you play along and get a HUGE tip? Hell yeah you can, and look at it this way: your job includes acting. Yes,to tell them off feels great, and I've done it but..playing along and getting $20 tips from one..smells like Victory. That's $20 he's out, donate it to a liberal cause if you want to. When they go low, lie that butt off, get that bankroll. They don't need it. Consider it as "repurposing the Trump tax credit to a more deserving individual", namely you and your family.

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Response to kaotikross (Reply #27)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:37 PM

35. Along your lines

I work for a public library and also sub at a public school. I serve everyone and it is part of my job. I just nod along or give them a you-are-speaking-jibberish look. I don't even think it's a good idea to even enter a discussion with any political, religious or local talk.

When I worked as a bartender/waitress through college I was like you, Kaotikriss, and went along with the program and knew how to play the game and make the most profits possible.

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Response to kaotikross (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:13 AM

58. Now that's an interesting approach!

There are many ways to fight these assholes. Why not relieve them of some of their money? Legally, of course.

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Response to kaotikross (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:07 PM

78. Major 'We're Not Worthy' wave from me to you

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:09 PM

30. My 'change the subject' tack might have been:

'It's Public Radio reporting facts about the situation in the Gaza Strip, and it's very informative; I like it. I'll change the station if you'd like, but I think being informed is necessary.'

I like oatmeal raisin cookies too!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:17 PM

31. I strongly suggest you get some cameras for your car.

I used to think cameras were an intrusion, but after working in a Houston car dealership that spent more time surveilling its own employees than anyone else, I came to appreciate them. If you ever have an issue, cameras always tell the truth.

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Response to GETPLANING (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 06:50 PM

41. I have a camera system on order.

It has a front camera, a rear camera and the passenger area. Should be here by Nov. 8th.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #41)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:30 AM

63. +1. Record and upload.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #63)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:21 PM

74. Right.

Record the mofo and if uber takes you to task then send 'em the recording.

Also just play along with the guy and get his tip. I'll listen to the lamest country n western if it doubles my tip. And take his money!

Remember if you're arguing with a true believer you will never change his mind, so relieve him of his budget and maybe he'll see things differently.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:18 PM

32. You did the right thing

I used to drive Uber and Lyft in Minneapolis. Luckily, no one said anything racist, but if they had, I would have dropped them at the next corner like you did.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:34 PM

33. Good for you Did the right thing

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:34 PM

34. They are like monkeys at the zoo.

They shit in the cup of their hand,.. and then fling it at people who happen to walk by.

Except it is not shit they toss,.. although it is toxic and bacteria laden,.. it is much worse,.. it is racism wrapped in the bow of mindless hatred. Their gift to the universe.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:57 PM

36. Trumpers

I dropped into a Subway sandwich place last night, and there were 2 middle aged, heavily tattooed skin heads that came in later. Tight black T-shirtís and black short pants. Each had a long pistol holstered around the waist. Their truck parked outside was black with huge American flags in the bed. The truck was festooned with trump and Martha McSally posters.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:57 PM

37. Thank you

Though those MAGA types are fairly thick-headed, letís hope the inconvenience of having to find another ride might make him think twice before talking sh*t next time

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 04:22 PM

39. They can't take criticism or correction of any kind

Criticism is perceived as a personal attack on their egos, their sense of self. Their egos are all entwined and wrapped up with "I" versus "other." Just like Trump. I swear their parents never taught them any manners.

I would have handled it a little differently. I think I would have said something like, "A courteous person, a gentleman, simply asks to change the station, or turn off the radio. You do know how to behave as a courteous gentleman, don't you? Your mother did teach you some manners for how to behave in public, didn't she?

and if he gave me back a snarly answer, I would have replied. "I'm sorry. I thought that you were a much better person, a gentleman. Oh well --- "

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 04:22 PM

40. It is beneficial in the long run to (non violently) push back

Otherwise, these people have a mistaken impression that people agree with their racist ideas. They may be surprised when others don't tolerate that shit. Usually, I find, they run home to Mama (RW media) to reinforce their shaky world-view.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 07:13 PM

43. Good job.

I would likely eat at least 2 cookies, maybe 3, to relieve the stress from that kind of close encounter with a MAGAt.

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Response to ooky (Reply #43)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:31 PM

47. Had 2

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:18 PM

44. Good work

they need to have consequences for the things they do and say. They have gotten away with too much already.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:23 PM

45. What would you say if you got into an Uber and the driver had a RW station on?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #45)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:30 PM

46. I would ask him to change to music without commenting on his choice

I have no problem changing the station. I had a problem that he would make the judgement that I was listening to "Muslim propaganda". Keep that to yourself, ask if you can have music.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #46)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:32 PM

48. You wouldn't make any reference to the "right wing propaganda" being played?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #48)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:04 PM

51. I might say I didn't want to listen to politics.

It's his car and I respect that.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #48)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:17 AM

67. They answered your question

Why the right wing propaganda in quotes?

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #67)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:33 PM

71. Because that would be a direct quotation of what one might say

Going off of the example of the person from the OP.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:05 PM

52. I think my reply might have been...

Oh, you must be a FOX news kinda guy... and attempt to engage in some intelligent debate on what propaganda truly is...

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Response to SimpleC (Reply #52)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:09 PM

53. I've had a few discussions, but only if they start it

They don't see Fox News as propaganda and any discussion is usually pretty useless.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #53)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:14 PM

54. I never like Fox News

Even before our current turd in chief got slid into power...

I thought they were full of shit years ago and never liked them...

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:36 PM

56. Thank you for resisting and not accepting him telling you NPR is Muslim Propaganda

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:42 PM

57. Something like that can really ruin your day, but you handled it courageously. Thank you! n/t

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:48 AM

60. I had a totally different experience.

Years ago my son had a court date in Gary In. for a car accident. We went to Chicago, to catch the train to Gary. Missed it. Hailed a cab, he was worried about missing the court date. The driver was African, wore the headdress, had the accent. I didn't ask which country he was from. We had the most pleasant conversation all the way to Gary. This man knew politics better than most Americans, and best part - he LOVED Bill Clinton. He thought he was treated very badly by the gop, for the affair. Best taxi ride EVER. My son enjoyed his company, too.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:01 AM

61. Aren't you afraid when you encounter someone like that they might put a bullet in you?

Seriously. I'd think driving for Uber could be pretty dangerous in some areas. Stay safe.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:23 AM

62. Occasional Uber driver here.

I drive in Atlanta. I've never had anyone say anything overtly racist like that. I have told myself that if anyone did, I would pull over as soon as practical, cancel the ride and tell them I don't tolerate that sort of language in my car, and to please get out. Easier said than done, I realize, and you did right to immediately report to Uber. They give more credence to whomever reports first. I did have to throw some guys out once. They were already being dicks, and then they canceled the ride through the rider app, I guess thinking it would be free if they did that. They didn't want to get out, and I had to raise my voice, then they got out quick. I think it helps that most Uber stories in Atlanta are headlined "Uber Driver Attacks Passenger" and not the other way around. We get some herd immunity from that.

I have had passengers who are overtly political, but usually they are anti-Trump, in which case I feel free to agree with them, and we commiserate. When I get the rare passenger spouting RW talking points, I play dumb and pretend to be an apolitical person who doesn't follow politics. I just say "oh yeah?" and let them spout their bullshit. But if you want to push back, I think that's fine too. It's your car!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:36 AM

64. It's not over.

"I just couldn't keep from saying. 'Can I give you a suggestion?'" Followed by describing to him his "racist opinion."

You picked a fight with your customer. The issue was dead. No more needed to be said, and you brought it back up.

He did not accuse you of anything to begin with, he did not disparage you, he did not accuse you of bad behavior. He made a comment to the effect that he did not like the station, and in the process said nothing about you.

You then raised the subject and told him that his opinion was racist. His Muslim comment could have been religious rather than race based, but you knew he was a racist and felt obliged to tell him so.

He did not attack or impugn you. You attacked him. You feel very virtuous for having done so.

You then describe your Uber supervisor as "having a foreign accent" and so possibly being a Muslim. Who's the racist in this story?

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 10:28 AM

65. WOW what an ass! You did a great job.

Former Houstonian here too!

Stay safe out there and keep up all the great work.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:23 AM

68. Great job, cannabis_flower!

You spoke up!!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:03 PM

69. I despise Magats

They definitely are deplorable and you are awesome for not taking his money ... I hope his karma catches up to him soon

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #69)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:23 PM

70. Special recognition award for "Magats"!

Con permiso, I will use it and spread it around.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #70)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:31 PM

77. Permission happily granted

Spread liberally

🤣

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:27 PM

73. Dear Goddess, I am so glad you are safe--that guy--it could have gotten REALLLLY ugly.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:25 PM

75. You did well. Be careful out there though.

Can you warn other drivers about him?

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:49 PM

76. Fellow Uber Driver here

Why is it that some people think that because they are paying for a service they can say whatever the hell they want. Some people will always look down at others and this guy is clearly one of them. Fortunately I haven't had an obnoxious MAGA passenger yet and I live in DC.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:31 PM

79. Load some choice songs on your phone.

I suggest the Dead Kennedy's "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" or Billy Bragg's "The Internationale". That'll give 'em something to listen to.

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Response to Ellen Forradalom (Reply #79)

Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:36 PM

80. What's funny..

is probably that most of them would not even get it. I'm not really familiar with The Internationale but I favor some Green Day "American Idiot". It was written about W but applies even more so to Trump.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:42 PM

81. He yelled MAGA?!

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:47 PM

82. Yep, As he was slamming the door

after I canceled his ride and told him to get out.

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